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[Continuation] Corona Virus Conspiracy Theories Part V

dann said:
A new one:



Since I got not only four Pfizer jabs but also one Communist Soberana Plus, I suppose I'll be entirely remote controlled any day now.

Scientists through autopsies show there is a parasite in the vaccine that lays an egg that bursts out and something comes out with tentacles.
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I was hoping for a video or at least a photo, but nothing so far.
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Release the Kraken.
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Yes, I was hoping for something like that. Preferably something in a color that matches my Morgellons.

By the way, it's amazing how many times she references science, scientists, doctors and experts in such a short text. In the next paragraph:
Experts through evidence confirm the mRNA injections are synthetic injection nano circuits that work with 5G. It's beyond what doctors know and what normal scientists know.
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At least, she is aware that this is beyond normal scientists. Gotta give her that!
 
The 5G version is only included in the bivalent boosters. You may need an upgrade.
 
I don't know about the 5g, but it's handy that my knife doesn't fall through the holes in my pockets any more. But I'm just afraid if I keep getting boosted it will get so powerful the knife will open and cut my nuts off, and I'd hate to give the anti-vaxxers the satisfaction.
 
bruto said:
I don't know about the 5g, but it's handy that my knife doesn't fall through the holes in my pockets any more. But I'm just afraid if I keep getting boosted it will get so powerful the knife will open and cut my nuts off, and I'd hate to give the anti-vaxxers the satisfaction.
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Just as well I keep both of my main pocket knives in robust pouches, which will prevent such an occurence.
 
Back in October I noted some discrepencies in the Florida Covid-19 study the Fl. Surgeon General used to not recommend Covid-19 Vax for younger people.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=13922316&postcount=1128
This sure smells like a study that originally included data on both benefits and risks then they removed the benefits. But sloppily leaving traces of the original. Why would they do that? On Florida's Surgeon General's orders?
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And so they did! The Tampa Bay Times got early drafts that shows just how slanted the final report was.

https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...ral-covid-19-vaccine-study-heart-problems-men

Now, draft versions of the analysis obtained by the Tampa Bay Times show that this recommendation was made despite the state having contradictory data. It showed that catching COVID-19 could increase the chances of a cardiac-related death much more than getting the vaccine.
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Oops.
 
Hey, this "journal" (International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practive and Research) article says:

Abnormal Clots and All-Cause Mortality During the Pandemic Experiment: Five Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine Are Evidently Lethal to Nearly All Medicare Participants

Dang. I'm on Medicare with lots of jabs and I'm feeling just fine. Guess I'd better update my will.

https://www.ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/73/198

Life expectancy for Medicare patients was shortened on the average by 74days with each dose of COVID-19 injectable fluid (whatever is in it). Unfortunately, on the sixth dose, the average life expectancyaccording to the Medicare datais already16.16 days past zero.
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Check out the authors, linked sources, etc. Quite a collection.
 
marting said:
Hey, this "journal" (International Journal of Vaccine Theory, Practive and Research) article says:

Abnormal Clots and All-Cause Mortality During the Pandemic Experiment: Five Doses of COVID-19 Vaccine Are Evidently Lethal to Nearly All Medicare Participants

Dang. I'm on Medicare with lots of jabs and I'm feeling just fine. Guess I'd better update my will.

https://www.ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/73/198



Check out the authors, linked sources, etc. Quite a collection.
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Damn, I'm ******.
 
A highly entertaining collection of anti-vaxxers in an EUP room. Implying an official EUP meeting. It wasn't an official EUP meeting. Just arraned by a few EMPs.

Third International Covid Summit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFLPWWCAHfQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ93mW_sMPo

I particularly liked the mix of folks that decribed Covid-19 as a bioweapon attack and minimized it saying the IFR is actually under .1%

Consistency was not a requirement, just a common sense of bravely going against the concensus.

Production values sucked with the videos only showing the speakers and not the charts they referred to. In one case they even focussed on a panelist that wasn't speaking until, minutes later, realizing they had the wrong guy, shifted to the one actually speaking.
 
Some laser-guided karma.
Last night was the final episode of "Battlebots" on Discovery. One of the teams, Riptide, was obnoxious to the other teams for most of the season. The Captain/Driver, Ethan Kurtz, had to miss the final rounds because he tested positive for COVID. His father, Stan Kurtz, is a major backer of Jenny McCarthy's antivaxx organization Generation Rescue.
I wonder if he was vaccinated.
 
“My initial hypothesis was that SARS-CoV-2 was likely an engineered virus,” Andersen told the committee. “This was based on limited data and preliminary analyses where I had observed features that appeared to be unique.”

He shared those early concerns with Fauci, who advised him to draft a scientific paper outlining his theory. But Andersen said he changed his mind after learning more about these kinds of viruses.

“We soon discovered that those features are readily found in related coronaviruses, and the virus itself looks to be a clear product of natural selection and not actual engineering,” he said.

He said scientists often adjust their thinking in the face of evidence. It’s not a flip-flop but how the scientific process works.

Andersen, who said he found his name on online “kill lists” because of allegations that he was part of a coverup, also disputed allegations that he and his co-authors were bribed to change their public statements with promises of grant money.
Has targeting these researchers and probing the publication of this paper meaningfully advanced our efforts to prevent and prepare for future pandemics?” he asked.

“Or has it been about fishing for evidence to prove their confirmation bias, their theories with a goal of advancing a predetermined partisan narrative targeting Dr. Fauci, Dr. Collins and our nation’s scientists and public health officials.”

Rep. Debbie Dingell, a Democrat from Michigan, chided her Republican colleagues for feeding public hatred of scientists and public servants.
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/11/heal...archers-house-subcommittee-hearing/index.html
 
I occasionally pop into read UK covid conspiratory twits. What is interesting is the increasing overlap between anti-vaccine / pro-ivermectin / covid as as a non-existent health issue AND climate skepticism / conspiracy. (E.g. recent post by Norman Fenton / HART / Martin Neil.)

Is this a common phenomenon, do believers in one conspiracy overlap with others?
 
Planigale said:
I occasionally pop into read UK covid conspiratory twits. What is interesting is the increasing overlap between anti-vaccine / pro-ivermectin / covid as as a non-existent health issue AND climate skepticism / conspiracy. (E.g. recent post by Norman Fenton / HART / Martin Neil.)

Is this a common phenomenon, do believers in one conspiracy overlap with others?
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From the little I've seen I think it's very common. We've seen a fair amount of it here, in which a few posters (not all present these days) have pretty much bundled conspiracy and fringe theories. Anti government, anti-vax, anti-climate change, and throw in some chemtrails and bigfeet and illuminati and George Soros is probably in there somewhere with his conductor's baton.
 
bruto said:
From the little I've seen I think it's very common. We've seen a fair amount of it here, in which a few posters (not all present these days) have pretty much bundled conspiracy and fringe theories. Anti government, anti-vax, anti-climate change, and throw in some chemtrails and bigfeet and illuminati and George Soros is probably in there somewhere with his conductor's baton.
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Thanks. I did note a chemtrail tweet being linked!
 
Planigale said:
I occasionally pop into read UK covid conspiratory twits. What is interesting is the increasing overlap between anti-vaccine / pro-ivermectin / covid as as a non-existent health issue AND climate skepticism / conspiracy. (E.g. recent post by Norman Fenton / HART / Martin Neil.)

Is this a common phenomenon, do believers in one conspiracy overlap with others?
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Absolutely.

I've been rereading Amy Chua's "Political Tribes." It discusses coalescing of group identity. As CT's spread, they associate with different tribes. Some of this was evident in the runnup to the 2020 election as the FDA changed it's safety protocol requirements which, in turn, caused Pfizer to reneg on releasing early vaccine efficacy data in Oct 2020. Data they had and had previously promised to release. There was a groundswell in vaccine hesitancy among Democrats* because Trump was flogging "his" Operation Warp Speed vaccines. Eric Topol among others led a movement to delay any info release to reduce this increasing vaccine distrust.

*In prior decades vaccine distrust was mostly on the Left. But before 2016 it had shifted to be largely on the Right. When Trump was flogging operation Warp Speed.it had started to shift again a bit to the Left and had the CTers pretty split left and right.
 
Planigale said:
I occasionally pop into read UK covid conspiratory twits. What is interesting is the increasing overlap between anti-vaccine / pro-ivermectin / covid as as a non-existent health issue AND climate skepticism / conspiracy. (E.g. recent post by Norman Fenton / HART / Martin Neil.)

Is this a common phenomenon, do believers in one conspiracy overlap with others?
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It's called 'Crank Magentism'. Once you believe one sort of *********** you're primed to believe in them all.
 
New trend among antivaxxers, allegedly.
And this one is not only healthy for the antivaxxers themselves.
It will also help protect the rest of us from infected antivaxxers, albeit inadvertently.

In the antivax group I follow, they are really getting into masks
- to protect them from breathing in vaccines
Bad Vaccine Takes (Twitter, Aug 12, 2023)
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Its good to see a thread like this here.... I thought people really hate us skepiticals!! (About anything)
 
US Senator Ron Johnson, to Fox's Maria Bartiromo:
“This was all pre-planned by an elite group of people,” Mr Johnson said on the network on 11 August. “We’re up against a very powerful group of people … We are going down a very dangerous path, but it’s a path that is being laid out and planned by an elite group of people that want to take total control over our lives, and that’s what they’re doing bit by bit.”

ETA: In case you are concerned by the fact that this idiocy was uttered by a member of the US Senate, be reassured: His term will be ending. On January 3, 2029!
 
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Trebuchet said:
US Senator Ron Johnson, to Fox's Maria Bartiromo:
“This was all pre-planned by an elite group of people,” Mr Johnson said on the network on 11 August. “We’re up against a very powerful group of people … We are going down a very dangerous path, but it’s a path that is being laid out and planned by an elite group of people that want to take total control over our lives, and that’s what they’re doing bit by bit.”

ETA: In case you are concerned by the fact that this idiocy was uttered by a member of the US Senate, be reassured: His term will be ending. On January 3, 2029!
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Seriously, are there any grown ups left in the GOP?
 
dann said:
New trend among antivaxxers, allegedly.
And this one is not only healthy for the antivaxxers themselves.
It will also help protect the rest of us from infected antivaxxers, albeit inadvertently.
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Masking to protect from vaccine shedding? They should create a vaccine for that.
 
Trebuchet said:
US Senator Ron Johnson, to Fox's Maria Bartiromo:
“This was all pre-planned by an elite group of people,” Mr Johnson said on the network on 11 August. “We’re up against a very powerful group of people … We are going down a very dangerous path, but it’s a path that is being laid out and planned by an elite group of people that want to take total control over our lives, and that’s what they’re doing bit by bit.”

ETA: In case you are concerned by the fact that this idiocy was uttered by a member of the US Senate, be reassured: His term will be ending. On January 3, 2029!
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Well if that don't sound like the GOP.
 
A win against a shedload of woo.

After a three-year manhunt, a Utah man has been arrested on charges of allegedly selling a fake COVID-19 cure, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Utah announced Monday.

Gordon Hunter Pedersen, 63, of Cedar Hills -- 30 miles south of Salt Lake City -- allegedly appeared in multiple YouTube videos before COVID-19 vaccines were approved, selling "structural alkaline silver."

He allegedly claimed the product was a cure for the virus because it "resonates, or vibrates, at a frequency that destroys the membrane of the virus, making the virus incapable of attaching to any healthy cell, or to infect you in any way," the release states.
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-allegedly-sold-fake-covid-cure-arrested-after/story?id=102282675
 
Orphia Nay said:
A win against a shedload of woo.
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This is an especially big win considering Utah is a haven for supplement-centered woo. Our late and only-partially-lamented senator Orrin Hatch was instrumental in getting that entire industry largely deregulated so that now you can sell practically any substance for any purported purpose as long as your fine print says, "This product is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease." For someone actually to be arrested for, and charged with, medical-supplement quackery in Utah requires them essentially to stray so far from good science that it's no longer in sight, and to flip off regulators with both middle fingers.

During the pandemic, our state legislature earmarked $800,000 in taxpayer funds to buy hydroxychloroquine from a sole-source compounding pharmacy (obviously with ties to legislators). We have a law on our books forbidding employers from requiring Covid-19 vaccinations as a condition of employment if the employee holds a "sincerely held belief" to the contrary. (FWIW, the Mormon church is pro-vaccine.) This is how far from science our state typically is.

This arrest is a ray of sunshine in an otherwise demon-haunted world.
 
Dude111 said:
http://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/145/915/703/playable/7542597a78cac404.mp4

Listen dues!!
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There is no rule here against posting "raw" links with no explanation, but in my opinion doing so is rude. Tell us why you think said video is worth watching! Better, summarize it along the lines of "name claims A, B, and C about topic and I think he/she has a point." You should use a link to support your comments and not for making your point for you.

Not to mention the fact there's no guarantee the link will work any longer than the timestamp on your message. It might still there in ten years, or it might be gone tomorrow.
 
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