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Connie Sonne Accuses Banachek of cheating her

Do you guys have any qualifications that entitle you to diagnose psychiatric illness on the basis on someone's internet activity?

I did not diagnose anything. I went by simple common sense math:

History of vague ramblings + failed controlled test + denial + a seemingly violent need for self-degradation in public = let us consider getting help trying to shed a light on things.

My math may be wrong. Given her history, I do not see a point in engaging her in a discussion in this forum at this time.
 
I think many had misunderstood me...it was not only Banachek, but the whole JREF who has cheatened not only me, but a lot of people. And another misunderstanding, I have never said WHEN I was going to tell about it, I only said when I would start on my website. And I did. The other things will come....when the right time comes!

Another thing , from the beginning I gave JREF and Bart Farkas and Mark Edward a cd rom containing voices from behind. It is real, and NOONE can manipulate that kind of voices. And they know, but they NEVER mentioned it at all. WHY NOT? Because they know I am right.

Eos Yes...you saw it with you own eyes....but there was a lot you did`nt see. They will just have it to look like fair....but it will come, I promise!

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...actually I feel sorry for you..what have I mentioned all the time?? YOU out there can NOT decide the way it has to go....but ... you can decide yourself if you will read my website or not...I DONT CARE:D... AND the video shows NOTHING !
Connie
So, the proof, the big revelation that would come soon (a year ago), one which would require us to visit your website, is a youtube video?
 
So, the proof, the big revelation that would come soon (a year ago), one which would require us to visit your website, is a youtube video?

Close. The big revelation that was promised two years ago is a YouTube video posted two years ago by the JREF immediately after the event. Connie hasn't taken this long to throw together some shoddy evidence she thinks supports her claims, she's taken this long to do absolutely nothing.
 
As long as she's just babbling on here she's obviously best ignored, but if she were to get her accusations published in a newspaper (admittedly an unlikely scenario, but stranger things have happened) they would soon be all over the internet, and he does have his professional reputation to consider.


Fair enough, I was basing my view on the present situation. And, as you say, getting her accusations published in a newspaper seems an unlikely eventuality. And, even then, he would be wise to tackle this in ways other than by suing, which should be an extreme last resort.
 
Okay then :D
But, seriously, on the basis of internet activity?



You were suggesting that that person has a psychiatric illness.



You were suggesting that that person has a psychiatric illness.
It comes across as nothing more than an ad hominem.

So if someone posted that they were getting pains in their chest and left arm you think that only a trained cardiologist should suggest they see a doctor?
 
Okay then :D
But, seriously, on the basis of internet activity?



You were suggesting that that person has a psychiatric illness.



You were suggesting that that person has a psychiatric illness.

No, they were not. They only suggested that the behavior might be indicative of one and that it might be a good idea to talk to a professional - presumably because a diagnosis could not be provided over the Internet by either laypeople or professionals.

It comes across as nothing more than an ad hominem.

Uh ... no.

An ad hominem would be "you sound crazy, therefore you must be wrong!". This is: "you are wrong, and the particular way in which you are wrong makes you look crazy, also. Please have that checked out."

-> She would still be seen as wrong even though it was established that she was not suffering from any particular mental problem. Assuming she had a mental problem, having that healed or fixed or dealt with would not make her more right, either.
 
You were suggesting that that person has a psychiatric illness.

Actually, I wasn't but I now suggest it is a possibility and it would be good to seek help. neither having an illness, nor seeking help for it, is cause for shame.
 
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I got to sit in the press conference immediately after her failed demonstration.

I get the feeling that she is deluded. Her excuse, that day, was that 'they' were not ready to be revealed. "They" apparently being the voice/force/entity/whatever that she thinks guides her.
 
Actually, most of you don`t know anything. You only trust in the words given to you from people you were supposed to trust , and trust the things you immidiatly see you don`t see many other things at all. What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong? You will see, as I have said many times before....things will happen at the right time.

About being banned here for saying, that JREF will be sued....I don`t care... Anyway it`s not the right place to write it all. SO....if somebody will try to sue me.... they are very welcome to.

Connie
 
Actually, most of you don`t know anything. You only trust in the words given to you from people you were supposed to trust , and trust the things you immidiatly see you don`t see many other things at all. What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong? You will see, as I have said many times before....things will happen at the right time.


This doesn't make any sense, sorry.
 
Huh, I didn't realize there was still discussion on this, and I can't recall what I've said on the matter (and don't feel like going through all the pages of the thread).

I am the one who stuffed the envelopes with the cards. I put several layers of security on these envelopes - not the least of which is this:

I didn't tell Banachek what kind of cards were being used in the test. I didn't say what brand, or what colour the backs were. In fact, I believe there were four different tests available (or was it three?), and the colours of the card backs were not the same for every one. I used red cards for some tests, and blue for others. Last I checked, the unopened tests were still at the JREF headquarters, and I imagine they can someday be opened for examination.

So not only did he not know the brand name of the cards, he also didn't know what colour they were, thereby making it impossible for him to have a deck of cards on his person for every possiblity - or, at least, incredibly unlikely.

In addition to this, there was tape across every edge and seam of every envelope, with my signature written across each piece of tape. It was impossible to remove without destroying the envelope, and I can verify that afterward they were all just as they were when I handed them over to the security officer.

And if I remember correctly (though now, looking back, I cannot be sure if it was for this test or another, so there's no sense in quoting me on this aspect), I put a secret mark on each envelope to ensure that, even if Banachek was a master forger and used entirely different envelopes that he had purchased himself, he would not know to replace the mark, having no idea that it was there in the first place.
 
What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong?
But you're not right, are you? You failed the test, remember? Your ideology has been proved to be wrong. Babbling on this thread does nothing to suggest otherwise. Quite the reverse, in fact.

SO....if somebody will try to sue me.... they are very welcome to.
No-one is going to sue you for babbling on this thread. I doubt if you'll even be banned for slandering Banachek and JREF, because it's so obvious you're just a rather sad person who can't bear to give up the idea that she is special.

The ball is therefore in your court. Either sue JREF/Banachek or put this all behind you and get on with your life.
 
Is there a point in egging her on wrt the lawsuits?

I doubt she'd stand a chance in court, but if it was to happen, it would only mean trouble for the JREF and banachek - they'll have to spend time and money on this, at least.
 
Is there a point in egging her on wrt the lawsuits?

I doubt she'd stand a chance in court, but if it was to happen, it would only mean trouble for the JREF and banachek - they'll have to spend time and money on this, at least.
After two years of her doing nothing but whinge it's clear there is no chance whatever of it happening.

At the most she might be persuaded to take the necessary first step of repeating the test with someone she trusts in the JREF/Banachek roles, which would settle the matter.
 
After two years of her doing nothing but whinge it's clear there is no chance whatever of it happening.

Then what is the point of egging her on? :)

At the most she might be persuaded to take the necessary first step of repeating the test with someone she trusts in the JREF/Banachek roles, which would settle the matter.

That would be a good thing, but I doubt it. But I did ask specifically about the egging her on wrt to the lawsuits. I wasn't having a "Leave Britney alone"-Moment here ...
 
Then what is the point of egging her on? :)

Spite. Spite always works.

There's also the fact that she's making wild allegations of criminal misconduct and showing absolutely nothing for it. That tends to piss people off. Someone should something or other someone for it.

That would be a good thing, but I doubt it. But I did ask specifically about the egging her on wrt to the lawsuits. I wasn't having a "Leave Britney alone"-Moment here ...

We should probably leave this Britney person alone... Connie, well, she's making wild allegations, what's worse is that she's wrong.
 
What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong? You will see, as I have said many times before....things will happen at the right time.

So, if you think - as you stated after the test - that this is down to whichever entities you believe control fate, why are you fighting it? If those entities choose not to have the truth revealed to us all yet, then why are you trying to claim that the truth is right there in front of us? If it was hidden from us, why do you get angry that we cannot see it?
 
Then what is the point of egging her on?
I'm trying to get her to admit, to herself if not to us, what is already obvious to the rest of us - that there is no chance whatsoever of her doing so, so she should start considering the alternative: letting it go, and getting on with her life.
 
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Careful now - threats of legal action against Randi/JREF have been grounds for banning members in the past[/url]

Actually, I read that not as a legal threat, but as the admission of failure that everyone is asking for. Read carefully what was actually just said (paraphrased):

Pixel - If you had a case, you would sue.
Connie - Yes, if I had a case, I would sue.
Connie has had two years but has not sued. Ergo, Connie has admitted that she does not have a case.
 
Connie, it is now nearly two years since you promised to reveal the whereabouts of little Madeline McCann and to date you have failed to give us the information. You assured us that you would reveal this in Sept. 2009.

Now, it doesn't matter whether or not I believe that to be true or even if gaining the knowledge is something you are capable of. What matters, what is central to revealing the type of person you are, is the fact that you do believe you know.

From that, I conclude that you have deliberately withheld this information for your own gain. If you are to be believed, you have allowed her parents to live a life of hell and have deliberately prolonged their agony. You are a monster.

Of course, the flipside is that you are talking rot and you know it. That would mean that you made this claim up without any regard for Madelines relatives. In that case monster doesn't come close.
 
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As they rightfully have in the past with forum users who threaten legal action, I hope JREF follows through and bans Connie Sonne from the high privilege of forum use. Let her take her threats and post them elsewhere. She shouldn't be allowed the use of a private forum owned by the very entity she plans to sue. JREF, please ban her.
 
As they rightfully have in the past with forum users who threaten legal action, I hope JREF follows through and bans Connie Sonne from the high privilege of forum use. Let her take her threats and post them elsewhere. She shouldn't be allowed the use of a private forum owned by the very entity she plans to sue. JREF, please ban her.

As an ex-mod and ex-admin of another forum I agree. The policy "feel free to sue us, but don't expect us to provide you with a platform that you might use to support your cause" seems very reasonable to me.
 
Actually, I read that not as a legal threat, but as the admission of failure that everyone is asking for. Read carefully what was actually just said (paraphrased):

Pixel - If you had a case, you would sue.
Connie - Yes, if I had a case, I would sue.
Connie has had two years but has not sued. Ergo, Connie has admitted that she does not have a case.

Lol - you're right that is what she has said! So, I agree, Connie has admitted no case and is not going to sue

Do we have this right Connie?
 
Actually, most of you don`t know anything. You only trust in the words given to you from people you were supposed to trust , and trust the things you immidiatly see you don`t see many other things at all. What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong? You will see, as I have said many times before....things will happen at the right time.

About being banned here for saying, that JREF will be sued....I don`t care... Anyway it`s not the right place to write it all. SO....if somebody will try to sue me.... they are very welcome to.

Connie

This isn't even coherent.
 
Actually, most of you don`t know anything. You only trust in the words given to you from people you were supposed to trust , and trust the things you immidiatly see you don`t see many other things at all. What if I´m right, what if your ideologies are wrong? You will see, as I have said many times before....things will happen at the right time.

About being banned here for saying, that JREF will be sued....I don`t care... Anyway it`s not the right place to write it all. SO....if somebody will try to sue me.... they are very welcome to.

Connie

When someone resorts to rhetoric in a case like this it is a pretty big indication they can't do what they claim.

Care to explain why your M.O. at this point is the exact same as anyone, paranormal or not, who claims an ability they don't have?
 
Huh, I didn't realize there was still discussion on this, and I can't recall what I've said on the matter (and don't feel like going through all the pages of the thread).

I am the one who stuffed the envelopes with the cards. I put several layers of security on these envelopes - not the least of which is this:

I didn't tell Banachek what kind of cards were being used in the test. I didn't say what brand, or what colour the backs were. In fact, I believe there were four different tests available (or was it three?), and the colours of the card backs were not the same for every one. I used red cards for some tests, and blue for others. Last I checked, the unopened tests were still at the JREF headquarters, and I imagine they can someday be opened for examination.

So not only did he not know the brand name of the cards, he also didn't know what colour they were, thereby making it impossible for him to have a deck of cards on his person for every possiblity - or, at least, incredibly unlikely.

In addition to this, there was tape across every edge and seam of every envelope, with my signature written across each piece of tape. It was impossible to remove without destroying the envelope, and I can verify that afterward they were all just as they were when I handed them over to the security officer.

And if I remember correctly (though now, looking back, I cannot be sure if it was for this test or another, so there's no sense in quoting me on this aspect), I put a secret mark on each envelope to ensure that, even if Banachek was a master forger and used entirely different envelopes that he had purchased himself, he would not know to replace the mark, having no idea that it was there in the first place.

I personally think that this was more than enough effort to avoid cheating by the jref, and so would any reasonable person.

That being said, as time has shown us the claimants are not reasonable.

Next time a test of this nature is to take place, i would suggest some kind of live feed ( to be recorded) of the envelopes creation, and them sitting there until the test . I know it is very unreasonable, but it wouldn't be that time consuming to do ( put up a camera, and have the weather network or something playing to confirm it is the day and time in question. ) , and it would be a further hurdle for the claimant to have to jump over to claim cheating.
 
As they rightfully have in the past with forum users who threaten legal action, I hope JREF follows through and bans Connie Sonne from the high privilege of forum use. Let her take her threats and post them elsewhere. She shouldn't be allowed the use of a private forum owned by the very entity she plans to sue. JREF, please ban her.

Ban her when she serves documents on JREF. Until then let her spew her rubbish onto this thread. Expose her for what she is. Then she cannot go elsewhere and claim she was cheated and then silenced.
 
Ban her when she serves documents on JREF. Until then let her spew her rubbish onto this thread. Expose her for what she is. Then she cannot go elsewhere and claim she was cheated and then silenced.
Respectfully, she has already exposed herself for what she is. In my house, when the rubbish piles up I throw it out.
 
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