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[Continuation] Brexit XII

Darat said:
You are of the generation that were taught both, it was apparently the case from about 1970 to 1980 they taught both. After that it was only metric. I remember my maths O level had questions using miles as well as kms.
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I'm 57 and I was not taught both. In fact, I distinctly remember going through one text book and being told by my teacher to skip the section about weights and measures which had strange things in it like feet and pounds and pints. Fortunately, I grew up in a world where many of the adults were stubbornly sticking to the old ways and so I picked up some knowledge of the imperial system even though it wasn't taught in school.
 
I'm of that generation where the answer to the question "how many pennies are there in a pound?" could be 240 or 100 depending on when the schoolbook had been published. It confused me briefly when I was an infant.
 
I find this discussion on UK units a bit odd. I took O-level physics in 1967, after 5 years at secondary school, and distinctly remember using metric units extensively through all my science classes. To check, I found an O-level physics paper from 1967 online. The first question (momentum of a falling body, iirc) was in feet and pounds but the rest all used cm, gm, °C etc etc.
 
GlennB said:
I find this discussion on UK units a bit odd. I took O-level physics in 1967, after 5 years at secondary school, and distinctly remember using metric units extensively through all my science classes. To check, I found an O-level physics paper from 1967 online. The first question (momentum of a falling body, iirc) was in feet and pounds but the rest all used cm, gm, °C etc etc.
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That doesn't surprise me at all. Science has been done in metric for a long time. Before SI, was cgs (cm, g, s). It simplifies everything, especially in combination with scientific notation for numbers.
 
The Don said:
You beat me to it :)

Those Brexit benefits just keep on coming. :rolleyes:

Meanwhile it seems that, in order to placate the DUP, Sunak is willing to give up Brexit "freedoms".

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/...ish-sea-border-to-tempt-dup-back-to-stormont/
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If that's true (and I have my doubts, as the Irish Times has lost all ability to properly scrutinise the chatter of others over the last thirty years), then Sunak's cruising for a tearing up of the trading agreements in place, as the current arrangements vis a vis the six counties are an integral part of the agreements.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
In the news here too of course.

Britain's post-Brexit trade talks with Canada break down as they disagree over beef and cheese

And cars.

I think the UK is most likely the loser here. Prior to Brexit UK was not taking our hormone contaminated beef but we were taking your cheese. Post-B still no beef and now no (duty free) cheese. Probably a minimal effect on the auto industry as if someone will pay $90,000 for a car, they'll still buy it at $100,000
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[Brexiteer]
Once again we see politicians undermining our incredibly effective Brexit. Canada and the EU are ganging up to punish England the UK for taking back control.

It's only a matter of time before the Canadians come to their senses, realise that the King is their King too and grant us the trade terms we deserve. :rolleyes:
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The Don said:
[Brexiteer]
Once again we see politicians undermining our incredibly effective Brexit. Canada and the EU are ganging up to punish England the UK for taking back control.

It's only a matter of time before the Canadians come to their senses, realise that the King is their King too and grant us the trade terms we deserve. :rolleyes:
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[Brexiteer2]Otherwise we send in the gunboats and teach the Fuzzywuzzies a lesson they'll never forget.[/Brexiteer2]
 
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-uk-food-shortages-eu-imports-b2485561.html

Winning all the way:

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Specialist meats such as Parma hams and Spanish chorizo sausages could begin disappearing from the shelves of UK supermarkets and delis because of costly new Brexit checks, food sector chiefs have told The Independent.

Rishi Sunak’s government has been warned of major supply problems with EU meat and dairy products when extra red tape and inspections are imposed on imports from April.

Some suppliers of specialist products, like French cheeses, will give up on Britain because of the extra expense and “huge hassle” involved in sending goods, say industry bosses.

…snip…
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But what about the canapés - I see this being a turning point for the nation!

;)
 
For a while now I’ve been having to be creative to smuggle certain foodstuffs out of the UK because of regulations; if they tighten up on stuff going the other way my family in the UK are going to be gutted.
 
malbui said:
For a while now I’ve been having to be creative to smuggle certain foodstuffs out of the UK because of regulations; if they tighten up on stuff going the other way my family in the UK are going to be gutted.
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Yes! We have to have the same creativity when we nip over to Gibraltar to pick up some of the very few 'Brit' things we still desire. Yes, they do look through shopping bags infrequently.

For some unknown reason a lot of the UK immigrant population here really miss their Richmond pork sausages - they're foul and disgusting. Spain has plenty of good food available.
 
sinnikal said:
Yes! We have to have the same creativity when we nip over to Gibraltar to pick up some of the very few 'Brit' things we still desire. Yes, they do look through shopping bags infrequently.

For some unknown reason a lot of the UK immigrant population here really miss their Richmond pork sausages - they're foul and disgusting. Spain has plenty of good food available.
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Yeah, to be honest I can't think of much I'd want to import if I lived in Spain. I've spent many months over there over the years and never once had a yearning for UK products.

Apart from Marmite, of course.
 
GlennB said:
Arghh! My Camembert, I love Camembert! Does it freeze OK? Can I stockpile?

The bastards!!
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A shop near me stocks Camembert from Cornwall. It's every bit as good as that from France.

It's not cheap though.
 
malbui said:
Yeah, to be honest I can't think of much I'd want to import if I lived in Spain. I've spent many months over there over the years and never once had a yearning for UK products.

Apart from Marmite, of course.
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Perhaps Vegemite would be easier to get hold of?
 
I just thought that since it only has to come from Australia, rather than across the English Channel, it might be more readily available.
 
Mojo said:
I just thought that since it only has to come from Australia, rather than across the English Channel, it might be more readily available.
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To be fair it can be found in a couple of specialist shops.

Alongside other emetics.
 
malbui said:
A pale imitation. I’m sufficiently integrated into Swiss life to drink Rivella, but I draw the line at Cenovis.
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Funny. Most of my English friends in Geneva tend to prefer Cenovis to Marmite!

I've always thought that Rivella was some kind of dishwashing liquid, until I tried the stuff, and then I was sure.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
I suspect any significant agreements may now be good as impossible. The 'Give Away Everything For A Quick Headline' deals Truss/Johnson negotiated can't be repeated without destroying farming completely, but who's going to accept a worse deal?
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The UK's only negotiating tactic was "give us our portion of the old EU quota or else". Canada replied "or else what?" and they ran away, bravely.
 
Northern Ireland will no longer have to automatically follow future EU legislation, as part of an agreement between the DUP and the UK government, that will see the DUP end their boycott of the Northern Ireland assembly. As per usual, this will also see the UK government throw money at Northern Ireland, in this case £3,3 billion.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ower-sharing-restart-northern-island-dup-deal

No word yet from the EU on what their take on this is.
 
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