Is Islam an evil religion?

[Leumas]

Actually, it is your mom.

Her beard might have been this long by now had she lived beyond 50.....but then again the chemo therapy for her brain cancer may have prevented that much hair growth.

Seriously, I never claimed I was not a muslim. So I do not know what you are talking about.

Aha…so I was right after all.

And finally, you have a problem with homosexuals or something, man?

No.... I always say... I wish I were a lesbian....

 

[Bill Thompson]

weeee hahaha
lets roll around in the freshly fallen Fall leaves like frollicing puppies.

 

[FireGarden]

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7549820&postcount=505

Bill, this doesn't surprise me.

I cannot understand how someone can take the idea of Walmart being anti-military seriously.

Bill, you remind me of a poster called Jedi Knight. Everyone knew he wasn't serious, but enjoyed playing along. Look how people missed him:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5310

And his arguments. Such as:

OK, let me rephrase it.

There are no "battered" women in America. The myth of battered women in America is due to the noisy matriarchal terrorists, the American Medina Matriarchal Totalitarian Feminazi Brigades. Men are the true victims and the "battered" in America.

JK

What a riot he was!

By the way, check out
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax
and search for "William M. Thompson"
http://apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/11-29-02/discussion.cgi.17.shtml

Yes, you have a talent for saying things you don't believe. Do you have any more examples?

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

The way you rile against islam with such vitriol, to me, has been reminiscent of how many evangelical preachers like Ted Haggard are so venomous towards homosexuals in their sermons and then they turn out to be closeted homosexuals.

Islamophobia and homophobia are similar in name and nature most likely. Everybody knows the best (only?) way to cure a phobia is to experience that which one is phobic of (eg. a solution to arachnophobia is to allow a tarantula to crawl up the arm to the neck area (shudder)). Islamophobes sometimes try practicing Islam to sort out their Islamophobia and homophobes sometimes practice homosexuality in order to sort out their homophobia. Hasn't Ted Haggard stopped practicing homosexuality? Wasn't it just a phase? I think it was.

 

[Craig B]

Islamophobia and homophobia are similar in name and nature most likely. ... Islamophobes sometimes try practicing Islam to sort out their Islamophobia and homophobes sometimes practice homosexuality in order to sort out their homophobia. Hasn't Ted Haggard stopped practicing homosexuality? Wasn't it just a phase? I think it was.

What strange things you write! Is Ted against sin? Does he publicly assert that homosexuality is a sin? Why should he want to "sort out his phobia" about it? If he thinks it's a sin, then he can't believe his aversion to it is a phobia, unless he thinks being against the sin of murder is a phobia too, for example.

Is he going to practice a bit of homicide to sort out his phobia about murder?

 

[Foster Zygote]

My neighbor and coworker is a mulsim. He is one of my best friends.

I'm guessing that he hasn't read this thread.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Islamophobia and homophobia are similar in name and nature most likely. Everybody knows the best (only?) way to cure a phobia is to experience that which one is phobic of (eg. a solution to arachnophobia is to allow a tarantula to crawl up the arm to the neck area (shudder)). Islamophobes sometimes try practicing Islam to sort out their Islamophobia and homophobes sometimes practice homosexuality in order to sort out their homophobia. Hasn't Ted Haggard stopped practicing homosexuality? Wasn't it just a phase? I think it was.

He seems to have sorted out his fear of methamphetamine as well.

 

[Mister Agenda]

I cannot understand how someone can take the idea of Walmart being anti-military seriously.

We don't take the idea of Walmart being anti-military seriously, especially based on the commercial you linked. But here's your problem: it's easy to take the idea that YOU take it seriously, seriously. I don't have that problem, I could have made the exact same post and everyone would find it hard to believe I meant it as anything but a very lame joke. That's because it would be so out of character based on my previous posts, that some would likely wonder if I'm on new medication if I put a post like that up. But you putting up a commercial you misunderstand completely is right in line with other links you've put up in haste that cursory examination shows you completely misinterpreted.

As I have pointed out before: be as mysterious as you want, but you have only yourself to blame if people don't know how to take you. I see you are now being cagey about whether you're a Muslim.

Maybe you should decide whether you want to be taken seriously or as a joke. It might make a difference in whether you're treated seriously, or as a joke.

 

[Mister Agenda]

Islamophobia and homophobia are similar in name and nature most likely. Everybody knows the best (only?) way to cure a phobia is to experience that which one is phobic of (eg. a solution to arachnophobia is to allow a tarantula to crawl up the arm to the neck area (shudder)). Islamophobes sometimes try practicing Islam to sort out their Islamophobia and homophobes sometimes practice homosexuality in order to sort out their homophobia. Hasn't Ted Haggard stopped practicing homosexuality? Wasn't it just a phase? I think it was.

Treating this, for a moment, as if you're actually serious, the way to treat homophobia is increased exposure to homosexuals. Participation in homosexual sex is not necessary. Ted Haggard would probably have benefited more from exposure to homosexuals in a variety of contexts than from his secretive encounters.

 

[A'isha]

My neighbor and coworker is a mulsim. He is one of my best friends.

You know, there's a reason the "I can't be a bigot, some of my best friends are X!" excuse is considered a pathetic cliche.

But nevertheless...is this the same one who got fired because of Ramadan fasting (which, technically, would make him your former coworker), or is this some new Muslim best friend/neighbor/coworker?

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

He seems to have sorted out his fear of methamphetamine as well.

: D Methamphetamineophobia is an esoteric term on a sunny day in Scotland.

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

What strange things you write! Is Ted against sin? Does he publicly assert that homosexuality is a sin? Why should he want to "sort out his phobia" about it? If he thinks it's a sin, then he can't believe his aversion to it is a phobia, unless he thinks being against the sin of murder is a phobia too, for example.

Indeed, one of the grayist areas of all is whether disapproval of homosexuality due to the observance of religious scripture is homophobia at all. Many people, unlike you and I apparently, believe that it does constitute homophobia, and perhaps Ted Haggard had been listening to them for some reason...perhaps they shout louder.

Is he going to practice a bit of homicide to sort out his phobia about murder?

Homocideophobia is not a valid term.

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

Treating this, for a moment, as if you're actually serious, the way to treat homophobia is increased exposure to homosexuals. Participation in homosexual sex is not necessary. Ted Haggard would probably have benefited more from exposure to homosexuals in a variety of contexts than from his secretive encounters.

I though homophobia was fear of homosexuality, not homosexuals. If somebody, like me, who was also homophobic, thought that were the case then exposure (snigger) to homosexuals would be insufficient to banish the phobia - they'd need exposure to homosexuality, not homosexuals.

A rigorous definition of homophobia does not seem to be available, nor, OT, is that the case for Islamophobia. Also, why isn't it called Islamphobia?

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

ANTPogo

Iran is the only real Islamic theocracy I'm aware of and so it carries the heaviest messages. Saudi is a monarchy. Pakistan is a secular republic...etc.

Do you know of any busy Sunni Fora? The only busy English language board I found was Shiachat IIRC so judging that a valid source of heavily revised scholarly opinion seemed fair.

Also, the Shias believe their leaders have contact with the hidden imam through dreams which enables them to revise scripture, whereas the Sunnis are more koranic literalists stuck in the stone age, to use popular vernacular.

Shia Islam is more powerful than Sunni Islam.

 

[bikerdruid]

Islamophobia and homophobia are similar in name and nature most likely. Everybody knows the best (only?) way to cure a phobia is to experience that which one is phobic of (eg. a solution to arachnophobia is to allow a tarantula to crawl up the arm to the neck area (shudder)). Islamophobes sometimes try practicing Islam to sort out their Islamophobia and homophobes sometimes practice homosexuality in order to sort out their homophobia. Hasn't Ted Haggard stopped practicing homosexuality? Wasn't it just a phase? I think it was.

wow......
it appears you might know even less about islam than you do about homosexuality.
...and that is saying a lot.

 

[Bill Thompson]

Would you call abolitionists slaverphobics?

Would you call abolitionists slavery bigots?

I find it interesting how the Democrats supported the institution of slavery in those days and thought the Republicans were out-of-line in trying to remove the practice from the face of the earth.

Homosexuality is not like being a Muslim. People have a choise in being a muslim or not unless they are forced into it. Kind of like being a slave.

Homosexuality is not a choice. It is like saying your eye color is a choice.

So comparing the two in some way is crazy.

 

[Bad Lieutenant]

Homosexuality is not a choice. It is like saying your eye color is a choice.

No, that's like saying being a paedophile is not a choice. First mod warning? I hope not.

 

[Bill Thompson]

No, that's like saying being a paedophile is not a choice. First mod warning? I hope not.

Yeah, that is a choice. No one is born wanting to hurt children. Being a rapist is also a choice. No one is born wanting to hurt women.

Those are different things.

You did not answer my questions. Maybe you missed them. I will ask again.

Would you call abolitionists slaverphobics?

Would you call abolitionists slavery bigots?

I find it interesting how the Democrats supported the institution of slavery in those days and thought the Republicans were out-of-line in trying to remove the practice from the face of the earth.

 

[Halfcentaur]

No, that's like saying being a paedophile is not a choice. First mod warning? I hope not.

What if you're a man and looking at a man's naked body gives you an erection, where as female bodies do not? Do you decide what arouses you by choice?

 

[Bill Thompson]

No, that's like saying being a paedophile is not a choice. First mod warning? I hope not.

Wait. Do you think being a homosexual is a crime somehow? I would love to read your reasoning here.