Is Islam an evil religion?

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Bill Thompson said:
What is your logic? Is your logic that since most people who call themselves Muslim are in the dark about how bad Islam is, then Islam is a good thing?
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And if xians read their bible and accepted all it's tenets (not just the bits that suit them) would there be many xians left?

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That is like saying Mormonism is OK because most people who call themselves Mormon do not know of their racist past because the church hides it so well.
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How many Lutherans, for example, know of and agree with Luther's anti-semitism?

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Lincoln hated the Catholics. He blamed them for the Civil war. So they got slapped down. So Islam should not be slapped down as well?
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Do you actually believe this nonsense or are you just parroting what someone had told you because it might support your argument? In the former case you are demonstrably incompetent because you have failed to do any research; in the latter because you're parroting others without verification.
The anti-Catholic sentiments often attributed to Lincoln usually are a variation of this:
Abraham Lincoln stated, "As long as God gives me a heart to feel, a brain to think, or a hand to execute my will, I will devote it against that power which has attempted to use the machinery of the courts to destroy the rights and character of an American citizen. But there is a thing which is very certain; it is, that if the American people could learn what I know of the fierce hatred of the generality of the priests of Rome against our institutions, our schools, our most sacred rights, and our so dearly bought liberties, they would drive them away, tomorrow, from among us, or would shoot them as traitors.... The history of the last thousand years tells us that wherever the Church of Rome is not a dagger to pierce the bosom of a free nation, she is a stone to her neck, and a ball to her feet, to paralyze her and prevent her advance in the ways of civilization, science, intelligence, happiness, and liberty.... I do not pretend to be a prophet. But though not a prophet, I see a very dark cloud on our horizon. And that dark cloud is coming from Rome. It is filled with tears of blood. It will rise and increase, till its flanks will be torn by a flash of lightening, followed by a fearful peal of thunder. Then a cyclone such as the world has never seen, will pass over this country, spreading ruin and desolation from north to south. After it is over, there will be long days of peace and prosperity; for popery, with its Jesuits and merciless Inquisition, will have been forever swept away from our country. Neither I nor you, but our children, will see those things."
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Of course it's a fabrication, by one Charles Chiniquy, a noted anti-Catholic bigot and former priest.............
In reality Lincoln condemned groups like the 'Know Nothings' and said:
The guarantee of the right of conscience as found in the Constitution, is most sacred and inviolable, and one that belongs no less to the Catholic, than to the Protestant.
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ETA: damn I should have read further in the thread before replying.
 
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Bill Thompson said:
In high school I was taught that the South wanted support from the Catholics and the story I was told was that Rome promised them support in the form of supplies and arms but backed out.

I am not 100% sure if Charles Chiniquy was in Lincoln's cabnet but Chiniquy claims to have had a long friendship with Lincoln in his book, "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome". I bought and read this book years ago.

Here is What Chiniquy quotes Lincoln saying:
“This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and North, on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor any one of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promise of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholics, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us.” Charles Chiniquy, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, The Wickliffe Press, Protestant Truth Society, Wickliffe Avenue, 104 Hendon Lane, Finchley, London, N3., 1885, p. 388.

Go to the library and get the book.

If they do not have it (suspicious?), ask for it.
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I don't have Chiniquy's book but I do have 'They Never Said it' which exposed the lie............

I assume you'll be acknowledging that you were wrong?
 
I'm not sure it's good law, but at least it's focus is on protecting civil rights. It's good to see Muslims organizing to support civil liberties.
 
Bill,

I thought your attempt to pass it all off as a joke was pretty funny! Was that what you meant?
 
I cannot understand how someone can take this subject lightly.

I cannot understand how someone can take the idea of Walmart being anti-military seriously.
 
Eh at the least you didn't go all emo and equip William Foster as your avatar
 
Giordano said:
Bill,

I thought your attempt to pass it all off as a joke was pretty funny! Was that what you meant?
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Once upon a time, since we are off topic anyway, I thought that everyone knew that the moon landings were real and I figured that people only pretended to believe they were fake as a joke.

For fun I posted on a consparacy web site that I had worked in the studio that had made the fake landings. It was a joke. But all hell broke loose. I got emails and phone calls from Radio Programs asking me to be interviewed on the air. I had to instantly tell people it was a lark and I overestimated basic human intelligence.

Seems like this still goes on.

No, it was just a funny thing that Walmart was making commercial about a nuclar bombing. That is all. Get over it.

By the way, check out
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Moon_Hoax
and search for "William M. Thompson"
http://apfn.net/MESSAGEBOARD/11-29-02/discussion.cgi.17.shtml
 
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And why do you think a single Shia messageboard and the words of a single Shia 'Alim represent all of Islam, Bad Lieutenant? Shias are only about 15% of all Muslims worldwide.
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Claiming the actions of a few tens of thousands(?) of fanatics (mostly in in backwards countries) is somehow indicative of all the 1.57 BILLION Muslims across the world is ridiculous. You might as well say the next Baptist minister who gets caught with his pants down is indicative of all Christianity.
 
Bill Thompson said:
Someone I found on a news website focused on Pakistani issues.
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So you are finally out of the closet?:p

The way you rile against islam with such vitriol, to me, has been reminiscent of how many evangelical preachers like Ted Haggard are so venomous towards homosexuals in their sermons and then they turn out to be closeted homosexuals.

So using the above cognitive dissonance reaction I concluded from your vehement opposition of islam is that you must be a closeted moslim after all.

:D
 
Actually, it is your mom.

Seriously, I never claimed I was not a muslim. So I do not know what you are talking about.

My neighbor and coworker is a mulsim. He is one of my best friends.


Soooooo, what are you talking about, man?

What is the deal? I mean, when someone says they do not like Christianity that never means they hate Christians! But the connection between muslims and islam is somehow different? WHy? How do you figure? If someone hates Scientology that does not mean they hate Tom Cruse or would not go see one of his movies.

And finally, you have a problem with homosexuals or something, man?
 
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