The Freeman Movement and England

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Sledge,

The Empire is over. Stop believing the hype.

The law of this land is the Common Law. Our Rights are our rights. And all the rest is banker stooges, fake politics, treachery, corruption and fraternal oath swearing corruption.

You may leave at any time you please. But do not associate me with the farce that is the British state. And don't cut out my posts. It smacks of Empires. Don't like empires and never joined them. Thank you dear Mr Censor.

Thank You


Sledge said:
I'm not granting you anything. I'm pointing out the logical course of action for you to take.
Why would I want to leave?

Oh, and I cut the rest of your post. I don't mind you trolling, but try and stick to the subject you're trolling on. There's a good lad.
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Really ?

And is Parliament free to break the law of this land ? When they, courts, kings and you and I are all subject to the law of this land ?.

Answer - NO
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Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/sovereignty/

Still confused?
 
All of a sudden, I have an overwhelming urge to attack the Spanish Armada!
 
Er, no. Wrong again.

After the theory of the 'divine right of kings' came the next theory of the 'divine right of parliaments'. Both are stupid. They are nothing but 'theories' made by the ruling/political classes. They are NOT the law of this land.

The sovereignty, the real sovereignty, of a nation is found with its people. Who are consulted when forming governments. For a start. That is proof positive that the people have the sovereignty of the nation. NOT parliaments. A parliament is subject itself to the law of the land. And its members can be prosecuted by the law of the land if they break the law of the land. You DID know this, didn't you ? I mean, think about it. It's not difficult, is it ?

The monarchy itself swears to uphold the law of the land at the time of the coronation. Once again, proof that the law of this land is the supreme lawful authority. Policemen are there to uphold the LAW OF THE LAND.

And, just in case you still don't get it. The Rule of Law. What law ? The law of this land. You can't possibly miss it, can you ?

Does it get any easier ? I mean, can it get more simple than this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

Politicians do not make laws. They make only Statutes. And what is a statute ? It's a regulative rule of a SOCIETY. Which they are sworn members of. It's NOT the law of this land. Statutes are SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THIS LAND. They are kept on the STATUTE BOOK. They are ALL subject to the law of this land.

Get it yet ? A Statute which is proved to be unlawful must be repealed. So says the law. How much clearer, more simple, can it get ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

Statutes of Parliament are binding ONLY on members of that Society which is parliament. But ALL, rich and poor, kings, parliaments, men, women, courts, police forces, courts, EVERYONE, is subject to the Law of the Land. The Common Law.

I am so glad we have sorted that out -

But just in case you've missed it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

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D'rok said:
Parliamentary sovereignty is a principle of the UK constitution. It makes Parliament the supreme legal authority in the UK, which can create or end any law. Generally, the courts cannot overrule its legislation and no Parliament can pass laws that future Parliaments cannot change. Parliamentary sovereignty is the most important part of the UK constitution.

http://www.parliament.uk/about/how/sovereignty/

Still confused?
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Stick around. You may learn better. The law of the land is the supreme law of the nation. Not statutes. Not other systems of administration. Not Eu politicians. Not oath swearing corporations. Not contracts. THE LAW OF THE LAND. Plus your Rights in law and your power of consent.


BaaBaa said:
All of a sudden, I have an overwhelming urge to attack the Spanish Armada!
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Whats the "law of the land" and is it written down anywhere?

And you cant say its Common Law because thats something completely different than your current interpretation of it.

JB
 
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Politicians do not make laws. They make only Statutes. And what is a statute ? It's a regulative rule of a SOCIETY. Which they are sworn members of. It's NOT the law of this land. Statutes are SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THIS LAND. They are kept on the STATUTE BOOK. They are ALL subject to the law of this land.

Get it yet ? A Statute which is proved to be unlawful must be repealed. So says the law. How much clearer, more simple, can it get ?
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How is the statute proved to be unlawful? Who decides whether it is unlawful?
Who repeals the statute? What is the exact wording of 'the law' in this respect, and when, and by whom, was it written?

Thanks.
 
I have never gotten an answer to who makes the law buffet that the freemen get to pick from.
 
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But do not associate me with the farce that is the British state.
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Why would I do that? You're not British. I don't know what country you do live in, but if you cannot stand the laws of that country, leave it.
 
Why should I leave my country just because the fraternities have taken over the legal system ? Would you leave your country if it was invaded by Chinese ?

Sorry, but your authority on such issues is zero. And it shows.

Sledge said:
Why would I do that? You're not British. I don't know what country you do live in, but if you cannot stand the laws of that country, leave it.
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Try the Golden Rule. The rest is right between your ears.

End of Lesson.

Is that too simple for you ?

I've seen a bull who was baffled by a red flag. And I've seen rabbits startled by headlights. I have never, however, seen a man who chooses to be ignorant of Common Sense and the Golden Rule.

You may, however, make legal history.

LOL !!!!!!!!!!


Toke said:
I have never gotten an answer to who makes the law buffet that the freemen get to pick from.
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Er, no. Wrong again.

After the theory of the 'divine right of kings' came the next theory of the 'divine right of parliaments'. Both are stupid. They are nothing but 'theories' made by the ruling/political classes. They are NOT the law of this land.

The sovereignty, the real sovereignty, of a nation is found with its people. Who are consulted when forming governments. For a start. That is proof positive that the people have the sovereignty of the nation. NOT parliaments. A parliament is subject itself to the law of the land. And its members can be prosecuted by the law of the land if they break the law of the land. You DID know this, didn't you ? I mean, think about it. It's not difficult, is it ?

The monarchy itself swears to uphold the law of the land at the time of the coronation. Once again, proof that the law of this land is the supreme lawful authority. Policemen are there to uphold the LAW OF THE LAND.

And, just in case you still don't get it. The Rule of Law. What law ? The law of this land. You can't possibly miss it, can you ?

Does it get any easier ? I mean, can it get more simple than this ????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

Politicians do not make laws. They make only Statutes. And what is a statute ? It's a regulative rule of a SOCIETY. Which they are sworn members of. It's NOT the law of this land. Statutes are SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THIS LAND. They are kept on the STATUTE BOOK. They are ALL subject to the law of this land.

Get it yet ? A Statute which is proved to be unlawful must be repealed. So says the law. How much clearer, more simple, can it get ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

Statutes of Parliament are binding ONLY on members of that Society which is parliament. But ALL, rich and poor, kings, parliaments, men, women, courts, police forces, courts, EVERYONE, is subject to the Law of the Land. The Common Law.

I am so glad we have sorted that out -

But just in case you've missed it -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9gTjvcK8to

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Fiction 0
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So, in Especially's UK, the common law is the supreme law of the land. Parliament isn't supreme, the common law is.

Who makes the common law, Especially?
 
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Why should I leave my country just because the fraternities have taken over the legal system ?
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Your country has been overtaken by a bunch of students? I wouldn't worry too much about that, just wait until they get drunk and kick them out. What country are you living in, by the way?

Irrelevant part of quote cut once again. There IS a topic, old chap. Try and stick to it.
 
A Statute is proved to be unlawful when it is challenged in a court of law, under the law of this land, and found to contradict the law of this land. The judge of the court decides it. Since judges (and not politicians) are there to decide on matters of law. That is what judges are for.

The Parliament is then forced to repeal the Statute. This happened recently in the UK with a police policy of stopping and searching people. Which was proved to be UNLAWFUL. The Statute had to be repealed on that. Because the Statute was UNLAWFUL. Again, going to war with Iraq was UNLAWFUL. That is why its legality was challenged. And so on.

Statutes are SUBJECT TO THE LAW OF THIS LAND. They are NOT the Law of this land. They receive only the 'force' of law. With the consent of the governed. And the governed have the power of consent, under the law of this land. THAT IS REALITY.

OK ?


garethdjb said:
How is the statute proved to be unlawful? Who decides whether it is unlawful?
Who repeals the statute? What is the exact wording of 'the law' in this respect, and when, and by whom, was it written?

Thanks.
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A Statute is proved to be unlawful when it is challenged in a court of law, under the law of this land, and found to contradict the law of this land. The judge of the court decides it. Since judges (and not politicians) are there to decide on matters of law. That is what judges are for.

The Parliament is then forced to repeal the Statute. This happened recently in the UK with a police policy of stopping and searching people. Which was proved to be UNLAWFUL. The Statute had to be repealed on that. Because the Statute was UNLAWFUL.
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Declared to be unlawful by one of those foreign powers that you claim have no jurisdiction under the constitution. Declared to be unlawful under a treaty that you claim parliament had no power to sign us up to.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/jan/12/stop-and-search-ruled-illegal
 
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