General Israel/Palestine discussion thread - Part 4

[Roboramma]

This is pretty awesome. I said I believe that Jews exist, and Leumas thinks that means I believe in the second coming of Jesus.

 

[Dr.Sid]

This is pretty awesome. I said I believe that Jews exist, and Leumas thinks that means I believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Clearly he finds existence of Jews alone to be offense enough. Still I don't think another Jesus would be usefull. IIRC he only managed to get one Jew killed the last time.

 

[Leumas]

This is pretty awesome. I said I believe that Jews exist, and Leumas thinks that means I believe in the second coming of Jesus.

Nope...

you just asserted something that wasn't true.... you lied.

You're in out of your depth... Stop frothing and foaming, and try to learn something about this subject- and about honesty.

Do you know what the highlighted symbol in the quote below means??? are you familiar with the concept of a question mark (?) delineating a QUESTION?

Do you know the difference between a QUESTION and saying a statement that is not a question????

Believing that there are people who follow the religion of Judaism is not racist...

To believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism are a race distinct from the REST OF HUMANITY and especially different from the Europeans and rather they are the product of centuries of INBREEDING between mythical Sumerian pimps and their mothers and sisters and nieces and daughters... is vile and preposterous racism.

Do you also share that they are to GET OUT of your country and must go to other people's country and kill them and ethnically cleanse them... just as long as they stay out of YOUR NATION?

Do you believe that they need to create lakes of knee-deep human blood in order for the damnable piece of **** bastard Jesus to come back and take a mulligan and kill the rest of the Jews who do not lick his taint?

But I am sure you know that... and are wafting a red herring in order to avoid answering the questions.


So can you stop the strawmanning

None of which has anything to do with my question to you.

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't be such a child.

And grow up.

And answer the questions...

 

[Leumas]

Clearly he finds existence of Jews alone to be offense enough. Still I don't think another Jesus would be usefull. IIRC he only managed to get one Jew killed the last time.

I think the quotes below express the truth about the above

No, ... you just asserted something that wasn't true... you lied.

Stop lying...

Reading comprehension fail.

Don't be such a child.

And grow up.

Stop lying...

 

[theprestige]

Nope...




Do you know what the highlighted symbol in the quote below means??? are you familiar with the concept of a question mark (?) delineating a QUESTION?

Do you know the difference between a QUESTION and saying a statement that is not a question????





But I am sure you know that... and are wafting a red herring in order to avoid answering the questions.


So can you stop the strawmanning





And answer the questions...

Don't teach your grandmother to suck eggs.

We all know a non sequitur and a rhetorical question when we see one.

 

[Leumas]

The preposterousness of Zionism

We all know a non sequitur and a rhetorical question when we see one.

Well... the "we all" are all wrong... these questions are not rhetorical... please answer

1. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism are a race distinct from the REST OF HUMANITY and especially different from the Europeans and rather they are the product of centuries of INBREEDING between mythical Sumerian pimps and their mothers and sisters and nieces and daughters?
   
2. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism do not belong to your "nation" and must GET OUT of your country and must go to other people's country and kill them and ethnically cleanse them... just as long as they stay out of YOUR NATION?
   
3. Do you believe that they need to create lakes of knee-deep human blood in order for the damnable piece of **** bastard Jesus to come back and take a mulligan and kill the rest of the Jews who do not lick his taint?

 

[theprestige]

Well... the "we all" are all wrong... these questions are not rhetorical... please answer

1. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism are a race distinct from the REST OF HUMANITY and especially different from the Europeans and rather they are the product of centuries of INBREEDING between mythical Sumerian pimps and their mothers and sisters and nieces and daughters?
   
2. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism do not belong to your "nation" and must GET OUT of your country and must go to other people's country and kill them and ethnically cleanse them... just as long as they stay out of YOUR NATION?
   
3. Do you believe that they need to create lakes of knee-deep human blood in order for the damnable piece of **** bastard Jesus to come back and take a mulligan and kill the rest of the Jews who do not lick his taint?

Nope. It's an obvious pseudo-Socratic JAQ-off. Answer your own questions. Make your own case.

 

[Leumas]

An Irrefragable REALITY... Zionism of any kind is a Turpitude and a Perfidious Scam!

Well... the "we all" are all wrong... these questions are not rhetorical... please answer

1. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism are a race distinct from the REST OF HUMANITY and especially different from the Europeans and rather they are the product of centuries of INBREEDING between mythical Sumerian pimps and their mothers and sisters and nieces and daughters?
   
2. Do you believe that people who follow the religion of Judaism do not belong to your "nation" and must GET OUT of your country and must go to other people's country and kill them and ethnically cleanse them... just as long as they stay out of YOUR NATION?
   
3. Do you believe that they need to create lakes of knee-deep human blood in order for the damnable piece of **** bastard Jesus to come back and take a mulligan and kill the rest of the Jews who do not lick his taint?

Nope. It's an obvious pseudo-Socratic JAQ-off. Answer your own questions. Make your own case.

OK... I will answer my own questions...

Any imbecile who answers yes to any of the three questions is

a contemptible ignoramus and a grotesque despicable racist (e.g. any Christian Zionist or Christian Nationalist)​

or

a hideously immoral sordid psychopath (e.g. Netanyahu, Menachem Begin, Ariel Sharon and the Likud et al)​

Now your turn!!

But before you do not answer... challenge yourself and try if you dare to watch this lecture by Gideon Levy.

And... if you do not dare to watch it then ask yourself WHY?

I will not ask you why... because that would be indeed a rhetorical question that you will never answer ever... and you do not need to do so because the answer is... as you know.

Notice the date on this video below... and the one below it... which explain the answers I gave above to my questions.

Watch them if you can... and if you cannot... then that is because you know that my answers are irrefragably correct and you can never ever refute them... because then you would be refuting REALITY.

 

[Ziggurat]

Well...

You obviously have some very weird kinks, and far be it for me to kink shame, but do you really need to share?

 

[Leumas]

You obviously have some very weird kinks, and far be it for me to kink shame, but do you really need to share?

When you stop sharing YOUR "weird kinks" I will stop exposing the weirdness of those kinks of yours.

If you call my exposing of your "weird kinks" as a kink... then hey... that would be yet another kink of yours... not mine... and I will continue to "kink shame" for as long as you keep sharing your "weird kinks".

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Nope...




Do you know what the highlighted symbol in the quote below means??? are you familiar with the concept of a question mark (?) delineating a QUESTION?

Do you know the difference between a QUESTION and saying a statement that is not a question????





But I am sure you know that... and are wafting a red herring in order to avoid answering the questions.


So can you stop the strawmanning





And answer the questions...

Leumas, please stop using my posts to attack others with. If you have something to say- and clearly, you have many, many things to say- kindly use your own words.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

I think the quotes below express the truth about the above

The quotes are mine. I would prefer it if you did not use my posts as ammunition against others. They were directed at you, in reference to specific points you made. Dishonestly trying to drag me into your (multiple) disagreements with other members is not acceptable.

 

[webfusion]

For those who think that N.Sinai cannot be utilized as part of a National Home for the NewState of Palestine (an expansion of Gaza).
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/company-says-turn-patch-desert-193000341.html

Morocco is promoting a method to reclaim the desert. (it's similar to Israeli agro-tech, but maybe the Palestinians want to avoid dealing with Jews, and would prefer to invite their fellow Arabs to assist).

Anyway, with a 96-hour lull being implemented currently, there will be plenty of opportunity in the coming weeks to discuss the future of Gaza & Palestinian demands for Statehood.
(The first 13 hostages were scheduled to be released at 4 p.m. Israel time, 9 a.m. EST US
According to Ha'Aretz, 12 Thai nationals are also scheduled for release, although it was previously reported that 23 Thai hostages will be released unconditionally by Hamas, mediated by Iran, according to Al-Araby Al-Jadeed)

Hamas says it now won't allow Red Cross to visit remaining hostages, as previously indicated, as part of this ridiculous deal.

 

[Hercules56]

For those who think that N.Sinai cannot be utilized as part of a National Home for the NewState of Palestine (an expansion of Gaza).
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/company-says-turn-patch-desert-193000341.html

Morocco is promoting a method to reclaim the desert. (it's similar to Israeli agro-tech, but maybe the Palestinians want to avoid dealing with Jews, and would prefer to invite their fellow Arabs to assist).

Anyway, with a 96-hour lull being implemented currently, there will be plenty of opportunity in the coming weeks to discuss the future of Gaza & Palestinian demands for Statehood.
(The first 13 hostages were scheduled to be released at 4 p.m. Israel time, 9 a.m. EST US
According to Ha'Aretz, they are reportedly Thai nationals, not Israelis)

Hamas says it now won't allow Red Cross to visit remaining hostages, as previously indicated, as part of this ridiculous deal.

"Ridiculous deal".

That's easy for you to say, I guess you have no loved ones or friends that have been held hostage in the bowels of Gaza for more than a month. Or loved ones or friends that are going without food, water or fuel or a sense of safety from daily destruction.

 

[webfusion]

"Ridiculous deal".

That's easy for you to say, I guess you have no loved ones or friends that have been held hostage in the bowels of Gaza for more than a month. Or loved ones or friends that are going without food, water or fuel or a sense of safety from daily destruction.

John Bolton said it best --- to place 9-million Israelis at risk for the fate of a few hundred people is not sensible or proper.

This 'trickle" effect is not going to work out well.
(and Hamas is already saying once 50 captives are returned over the course of the coming days, the demand for turning over IDF soldiers and the remains of soldiers will be for the release of every single Palestinian prisoner, and we know how the Israeli public will react to THAT).

And for the record, you know nothing about me, or if I have 'loved ones or friends' currently being held (or who were killed). -- I do, BTW.

 

[Hercules56]

John Bolton said it best --- to place 9-million Israelis at risk for the fate of a few hundred people is not sensible or proper....

The war-monger John Bolton has no friends or relatives being held in the bowels of Gaza, so its easy for him to disregard the welfare of these innocent people.

 

[webfusion]

The war-monger John Bolton has no friends or relatives being held in the bowels of Gaza, so its easy for him to disregard the welfare of these innocent people.

I don't think he is 'disregarding' anything.
He simply understands all too well that HAMAS needs to be disbanded as a controlling factor in Gaza.

The 'welfare' of all of Israel is at stake here. What part of that aren't you getting?

Jonathan Pollard (who knows about being held in the bowels of captivity) indicated that the hostages' families should be prevented from making their views known publicly, and jailed if they don't stop protesting the pursuit of this war.
"When we started to go to war, the first thing that the government should have done was declare a state of national emergency and told all of the hostage families 'you will keep your mouths shut or we will shut them for you'," said Pollard to Rabbi David Bar-Hayim. 'You will not interfere in the management of this war.' "

 

[Hercules56]

Delete

 

[Stout]

I can't say I'm too impressed with the tunnel system discovered under the al-Shifa Hospital. Sure, it exists but it looks like it was abandoned quite some time ago and doesn't even come close to the HAMAS command center I was expecting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLwNWATuVVw

 

[Hercules56]

I can't say I'm too impressed with the tunnel system discovered under the al-Shifa Hospital. Sure, it exists but it looks like it was abandoned quite some time ago and doesn't even come close to the HAMAS command center I was expecting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLwNWATuVVw

Structure was built by Israel decades ago, Hamas just using the space.