The Bible is a Human Artifice!!!

[Leumas]

You're getting desperate now. If you need to grasp at this excuse to avoid supporting your claim I think we're done.

Yes we are indeed done... because you have just tacitly admitted that you are doing what that guy said you are doin...



Thanks for admitting it finally.

QED!!!

 

[Craig4]

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Or are you doing what that guy said you are doing???

If you agree with him that that is indeed what you are doing then say so... if not then please tell him so....

Which is it??? Are you attempting to derail this thread or not???

If you are then admit it ... just like he did.

You made a good argument for why the bible was written by Loki. The fault is in your argument.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Yes we are indeed done... because you have just tacitly admitted that you are doing what that guy said you are doin...



Thanks for admitting it finally.

QED!!!

(Sigh) No. I have been taking this entirely seriously.

 

[Leumas]

Can you complete the argument "No deity could have authored the bible because..." in a single sentence and without making an argument from incredulity?

Read the op... because that is not what the OP says...

But ... you know that and all you are doing is derailing this thread with this ...


But let me see if I can use your and the "us" words to show you how irrational your logic is....

...I said in my very first post that Gods are just pretend, and I reiterated that belief in later posting.

Obviously that's irrational. Believing in a deities omnipotent or not is also irrational. ....

You claim that there are no deities... and your "us" claims that it is irrational to believe in deities....

So if you cannot see how irrational it is to believe that deities you do not believe in wrote things....then you are only doing what that guy admitted you are all doing.... and you have so far agreed with him.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Read the op

Read the thread title.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

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You claim that there are no deities... and your "us" claims that it is irrational to believe in deities....

So if you cannot see how irrational it is to believe that deities you do not believe in wrote things....then you are only doing what that guy admitted you are all doing.... and you have so far agreed with him.

I have highlighted your usual logical error. Try again.

 

[Craig4]

Read the op... because that is not what the OP says...

But ... you know that and all you are doing is derailing this thread with this ...


But let me see if I can use your and the "us" words to show you how irrational your logic is....







You claim that there are no deities... and your "us" claims that it is irrational to believe in deities....

So if you cannot see how irrational it is to believe that deities you do not believe in wrote things....then you are only doing what that guy admitted you are all doing.... and you have so far agreed with him.

Can you prove there's not a magic elf in my laundry room stealing my socks?

 

[Leumas]

You made a good argument for why the bible was written by Loki. The fault is in your argument.

READ THE BLOODY OP.... I made no such argument... YOU DID... along with the other "us"....

Or ... as you have so far agreed... by not refuting it... you are all doing what that guy said you are doing... deliberately not caring about reading or evaluating any arguments in the first place because you decided to derail this thread.

 

[Leumas]

Can you prove there's not a magic elf in my laundry room stealing my socks?

If you believe it ... then that is your burden of proof... if you do not ... then you have proven it yourself for yourself... QED!!!

But if you want to derail threads with this kind of irrational illogic... then yup... you have already admitted that this what you have been doing all along.

 

[zooterkin]

Another proof of the bible being an artifice of human making is the fact that it was written in the language of the Canaanites, a people the deity of the bible execrated and tried to extirpate but failed because they had iron chariots.

And it was scripted using the flowed and incomplete Abjad of the Arameans, yet another peoples the deity of the bible execrated.

And it was allegedly given to an Egyptian courtier descended from Sumerians to give to runaway slaves descended from 70 Sumerian men with their mothers and sister after having been slaves in Egypt for 430 years.

QED!!!

Could you highlight the part where you proved the bible was written by humans?

 

[Leumas]

I have highlighted your usual logical error. Try again.

You still have not denied what that guy claimed you are doing... why not???

 

[Thermal]

If they do not know what reality is ... because I did not lose the argument... because all you were doing is what that guy admitted you are doing... so there was no argument....




That is not an argument and certainly not by any rational atheists....

Do you agree with him.... then admit it...

If not then please refute him....

Which is it???

I'll make you a deal, my sweet Brother. Answer a ******* direct question or two from this thread first, and I'll give you the same courtesy. Till then, I feel no compulsion to acquiesce to your demands.

The above is not the action of rational skeptics...

Nor are your arguments.

... and not the action of anyone winning any arguments...

So do you agree with him or do you not... admit it if you do or refute him if you do not.....

I will take any silence as you agree with him.

Which if you do then you have not won any argument because you did not make any rational anything.

As I've been saying for months, you first. You have been queried often, and elaboration/explanation requested, only to reply with extreme rudeness to your fellow forumites. Time for you to walk it like you talk it.

 

[zooterkin]

You still have not denied what that guy claimed you are doing... why not???

Yes he has, and anyway he didn’t.

 

[Leumas]

Could you highlight the part where you proved the bible was written by humans?

Yes.... here you go....

Another proof of the bible being an artifice of human making is the fact that it was written in the language of the Canaanites, a people the deity of the bible execrated and tried to extirpate but failed because they had iron chariots.
And it was scripted using the flowed and incomplete Abjad of the Arameans, yet another peoples the deity of the bible execrated.
And it was allegedly given to an Egyptian courtier descended from Sumerians to give to runaway slaves descended from 70 Sumerian men with their mothers and sister after having been slaves in Egypt for 430 years.
QED!!!

 

[zooterkin]

Yes.... here you go....

And that rules out, for example, Loki, how exactly?

 

[Leumas]

Yes he has, and anyway he didn’t.

Where??? This is what the guy said.... and I have not seen anyone telling him that he is a liar???

Please give me a link or a quote of where anyone has refuted him.... did you do it???

No, he's stating it's not serious because, as far as I can tell, you are the only one really taking it seriously. Almost everyone else is having a laugh at your expense.

Jokes made at your expense keep flying over your head. Thermal's continued insistence on calling you brother is done to take the piss out of you, and you seem to be completely oblivious.

I'm reminded of the gathering at my aunt's house many years ago where a couple of her MENSA friends made an appearance. Any conversation on any topic, they were "experts". They totally failed to notice that nobody was taking anything they had to say seriously, and half of us were doing everything we could to make them look like fools. Not that it required much effort on our behalf, because they were doing a pretty good job of that all by themselves.

 

[Craig4]

If you believe it ... then that is your burden of proof... if you do not ... then you have proven it yourself for yourself... QED!!!

But if you want to derail threads with this kind of irrational illogic... then yup... you have already admitted that this what you have been doing all along.

I never said I believed there was a magic elf stealing my socks. I asked if you could prove there wasn't. I'm not making a claim here.

 

[Leumas]

And that rules out, for example, Loki, how exactly?

You are the one who needs to prove Loki exists ... and that he wrote the bible.... not I disproving it.... do you understand how that logical fact works.

You could next tell me ok Loki did not do it so how does that rule out Ganesh or Kali or the tooth fairy....

YOU ARE THE ONE who needs to prove your whatever God you want to argue for exists... FIRST ... then after that prove that he wrote the bible....

If you do not do either then QED!!!


The OP was about YHWH not Loki or Ganesh or Kali or even the DEVIL... because YHWH is not believed to be the devil by the people who believe in him and the bible.

And if they can start arguing that he is the devil to wrangle against the facts of the OP.... THEN QED!!!

So either you believe in YHWH and all you are doing is wrangling with illogic to alleviate a cognitive dissonance caused by the Op.... and thus QED!!!

Or you do not believe in YHWH and thus you have proven the OP yourself... and are wrangling to do what that guy said you are all doing ... and thus QED!!! anyway.


I am still waiting for a citation of anyone refuting that guy's claims.

 

[Craig4]

The evidence for Loki is lacking and it's irrational to believe in him based on the information available.

That does not prove the Loki does not exist. He could just be having a laugh with the elf stealing my socks in the laundry room.

 

[Leumas]

I never said I believed there was a magic elf stealing my socks. I asked if you could prove there wasn't. I'm not making a claim here.

You are the one who made a claim that there are magic elves who stole your sock and want me to prove that they did not...

If you do not believe magic elves exist then you have proven your claim to be false by your own belief.

And if you believe they did then you need to prove it ... not I disprove it.

And that Shifting Of the Burden Of Proof illogic is a fallacious illogic.

And of course ... that is on top of the Unfalsifiability Fallacy to boot...

Your entire argument is arrant illogic.

And you know that... but you are doing it anyway because you are doing what that guy admitted you are all doing... if you are not then refute him.... that you have not done so so far is testimonial for your agreement with him.