Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[Michel H]

To you, sure. But it's not a good suggestion. You should not be assisted in your quest to redefine your decades old, un-remedied psychiatric problems as telepathy problems and prevent you from getting the necessary attention.

I hope you don't claim to know better that the doctor here.
I would like to remind you that you once appeared to support my views yourself, in a rather strong way (except for a unnecessary aggressive element in connection with my mother; also, I don't remember that you ever participated in an actual test).
You said (in 2014):

I am hearing Michel H's thoughts. All of them.

As per usual, he has externally expressed thoughts and private thoughts.
The private thoughts, which to me are as clear as the externally expressed thoughts make it crystal clear that ...
Michel H, I can literally hear the cognitive dissonance grind in your mind.

I did not, and I still do not detect "sarcasm" in this post
Then The Moog supported you (in a humorous way) by saying:

I believe every single word of this post.

I too am hearing Michel H's thoughts, currently he is hungry and considering ordering a Pizza with extra Pineapple.
Or perhaps these are my thoughts...

Then I replied:

Thank you, Daylightstar and The Moog, I have long been suspecting there is an odd and very exceptional telepathic phenomenon which allow you to know some of my thoughts, even if you are in very remote places (for me). Unfortunately, it seems that most people strongly dislike the idea of conceding and admitting this thing "seriously" and consistently. ... What I said about my mother was true, but I admit that it is not usual for her to ask "Do you have the impression that people are all crazy?" (she said that in 1995, in a restaurant).
...

But you were not satisfied with my reply and you said, in post #1950: "No Michel H, not some of your thoughts: ... All of them."

 

[devnull]

I am sorry you are unable or unwilling to receive appropriate treatment Michel.

All the best.

 

[Michel H]

I am sorry you are unable or unwilling to receive appropriate treatment Michel.

All the best.

Treatment for what? For telling a truth that you don't like to hear? But that's not a disease, devnull.
You too seem to have evolved unfavorably:

But..... Im not guessing. Im psychic, and Im positive the number he wrote was 4.

The available evidence seems to indicate that you, like others on this forum, display a tendency to want to medicalize a telepathic condition that you do not like to admit, rather than me displaying a tendency to present as a telepathic specificity what would actually be an internal mental disorder.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I got only one answer equal to "1", "2", "3" or "4" so far, provided by CynicalSkeptic. I would to receive a few more.

I see that so far you have failed to acknowledge my response, which is that I am 100% certain that I do not know the number you chose. Why are you rejecting this as a valid answer?

Dave

 

[abaddon]

To you, sure. But it's not a good suggestion. You should not be assisted in your quest to redefine your decades old, un-remedied psychiatric problems as telepathy problems and prevent you from getting the necessary attention.

I hope you don't claim to know better that the doctor here.

Why not? You do.

I would like to remind you that you once appeared to support my views yourself, in a rather strong way(except for a unnecessary aggressive element in connection with my mother; also, I don't remember that you ever participated in an actual test).
You said (in 2014):

I am hearing Michel H's thoughts. All of them.

As per usual, he has externally expressed thoughts and private thoughts.
The private thoughts, which to me are as clear as the externally expressed thoughts make it crystal clear that ...
Michel H, I can literally hear the cognitive dissonance grind in your mind.
I did not, and I still do not detect "sarcasm" in this post

Sweet baby spaghetti monster, you really cannot detect the dribbling, drooling sarcasm in that? Does that not give you pause for thought?

Then The Moog supported you (in a humorous way) by saying:

I believe every single word of this post.

I too am hearing Michel H's thoughts, currently he is hungry and considering ordering a Pizza with extra Pineapple.
Or perhaps these are my thoughts...

Then I replied:

Thank you, Daylightstar and The Moog, I have long been suspecting there is an odd and very exceptional telepathic phenomenon which allow you to know some of my thoughts, even if you are in very remote places (for me). Unfortunately, it seems that most people strongly dislike the idea of conceding and admitting this thing "seriously" and consistently. ... What I said about my mother was true, but I admit that it is not usual for her to ask "Do you have the impression that people are all crazy?" (she said that in 1995, in a restaurant).
...

But you were not satisfied with my reply and you said, in post #1950: "No Michel H, not some of your thoughts: ... All of them."

And then you reached for outright bonkers.

Seek professional help.

 

[Michel H]

I see that so far you have failed to acknowledge my response, which is that I am 100% certain that I do not know the number you chose. Why are you rejecting this as a valid answer?

Dave

I did not (and I still do not) reject your answer, I said "I got only one answer equal to "1", "2", "3" or "4" ", your answer was not equal to one of these four numbers, so I had no reason to mention it in that sentence. On the contrary, I respect your answer as a perfectly valid answer in my test. I did not include it in the final analysis, not because it was not valid, but because it was not interesting.
You have to realize that one important aspect in the apparent "Michel H telepathic phenomenon" is that people apparently don't like to admit it, and frequently lie (or half-lie) about it, and are constantly trying to "medicalize" it to try to humiliate me, this is why I had to develop this credibility method.
I don't want to offend you, Dave, but, in view of you past postings in this thread, you do not appear to me as a high credibility poster.
For example, you said:

I flipped a coin three times, with the intention that the odd one out would indicate the number (for example, HTH would be 2, TTH 3 etc.) I got three tails the first time, and three heads the second. From this I can only conclude that the number you wrote is not in fact 1, 2 or 3.

Dave

One year later, I still don't understand what you meant, and I don't think it was a very useful contribution to my thread.

 

[Dave Rogers]

I did not include it in the final analysis, not because it was not valid, but because it was not interesting.

Then your analysis is biased, because you are specifically excluding all responses that claim that they have received no telepathic message and are therefore, in effect, at least partially excluding that possibility. As for my earlier reply, whether useful for your personal purposes or not, it was factually correct; the fact that the conclusion was absurd should perhaps also be considered relevant to your methodology.

Dave

 

[Lothian]

I got only one answer equal to "1", "2", "3" or "4" so far, provided by CynicalSkeptic. I would to receive a few more.

My answer is also "1", "2", "3" or "4"

Glad to be of help.

 

[Michel H]

My answer is also "1", "2", "3" or "4"

Glad to be of help.

Could you make a definite choice among these four alternatives?

 

[Ladewig]

You have to realize that one important aspect in the apparent "Michel H telepathic phenomenon" is that people apparently don't like to admit it, and frequently lie (or half-lie) about it, and are constantly trying to "medicalize" it to try to humiliate me,

I thought I could resist but your statement angers me beyond belief

There is nothing humiliating about being diagnosed with a mental illness
A person can be diagnosed with a kidney illnes, a stomach illness, a lung illness, or a brain illness. It is simply another organ in the body that sometimes succumbs to factors in such a way as to make it function incorrectly.

If one cannot digest food properly or breathe properly, the appropriate action is to see a specialist doctor. Similarly, if one cannot perceive reality correctly, the appropriate action is to see a specialist doctor.

I am not afraid of telepathy
Personally, I would be amazed and astounded if telepathy could be proven. To witness the beginning of a new field of study would be both exciting and fascinating. I am not afraid of telepathy in the least. However, I have seen no evidence that you have telepathy.

I am not a doctor so I cannot diagnose you. But even though I am not a doctor, I can urge you to see a doctor and describe everything that is happening to you.The problem with illnesses of the brain is that sometimes a doctor says one thing and the patient misperceives the statement and concludes that the doctor is saying the exact opposite.

The I-picked-a-number game
Lastly, the problem with playing the I-picked-a-number game (and it is a game and NOT a tightly-controlled test) is that no progress can ever be made. You, yourself, have said there is no test result that will ever convince you that you do not have telepathic powers. We have said that no four-digit guessing game in which the rules are changed willy-nilly will ever convince us. The I-picked-a-number game is a waste of everyone's time.

I hope you take this post seriously.
And I hope the posters that think joking or clowning is an appropriate response in this thread take it seriously as well.

 

[Lothian]

Could you make a definite choice among these four alternatives?

Yes I definitely choose it will be one of the alternatives.

 

[Michel H]

Yes I definitely choose it will be one of the alternatives.

But choosing to say "it will be one of the alternatives" is not the same thing as making a definite choice between "1", "2", "3", and "4".

 

[MikeG]

Please people, let this nonsense die. Everything you say will be mis-construed by someone who has admitted to serious mental health issues, and pissing about with people who have such problems is reprehensible, in my view.

 

[Giordano]

Please people, let this nonsense die. Everything you say will be mis-construed by someone who has admitted to serious mental health issues, and pissing about with people who have such problems is reprehensible, in my view.

I understand fully and share your emotions, but I have regrettably come to the conclusion that getting posters to stop posting in a thread for any reason is unlikely as Michel H having ESP. I am sorry for everyone involved.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
You said (in 2014):

I did not, and I still do not detect "sarcasm" in this post
Then The Moog supported you (in a humorous way) by saying:
...
But you were not satisfied with my reply and you said, in post #1950: "No Michel H, not some of your thoughts: ... All of them."

All of that is sarcasm, Michel H. All of it.
I do not hear your thoughts, I can not hear your thoughts, there is no mechanism for such to be possible.

You not detecting strong sarcasm is your problem. You want to fit and construe everything into your telepathy delusion.

You are simply defining your psychiatric problem as a telepathy problem.
You have no telepathy problem, Michel H, you have a decades old un-remedied psychiatric problem.

Going along with your number guessing game is a bad thing because it keeps you from getting the appropriate attention.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
The available evidence seems to indicate that you, like others on this forum, display a tendency to want to medicalize a telepathic condition that you do not like to admit, rather than me displaying a tendency to present as a telepathic specificity what would actually be an internal mental disorder.

It's really like you defining your psychiatric problem as a telepathy problem, as you have shown this is what you do.

There is no apparent telepathic condition in evidence in any post.
There is however an psychiatric condition affecting you in evidence in many if not most of your posts.

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, what was the physical problem for which you were admitted to a psychiatric hospital?

 

[Michel H]

Michel H, what was the physical problem for which you were admitted to a psychiatric hospital?

I have already told you (in post #2443) I don't say this here, Daylightstar. In addition, in 1995, I was not admitted to a psychiatric hospital, but, instead, in the psychiatry department of a general hospital, which is a little different.

 

[Daylightstar]

Michel H, what was the physical problem for which you were admitted to a psychiatric hospital?

I have already told you (in post #2443) I don't say this here, Daylightstar. In addition, in 1995, I was not admitted to a psychiatric hospital, but, instead, in the psychiatry department of a general hospital, which is a little different.

However:

I was briefly (for a few days) hospitalized in a psychiatric hospital because of a physical problem. ...

What was the physical problem?
Did you at the time give in to "mysterious "voices in my head" who try to convince me of killing myself."?


Are we talking two different admissions?

 

[Michel H]

However:


What was the physical problem?
Did you at the time give in to "mysterious "voices in my head" who try to convince me of killing myself."?


Are we talking two different admissions?

I simplified my vocabulary a little yesterday. I was hospitalized only one time in 1995, for a few days, in the inpatient mental health unit of a large hospital.