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It has indeed happened several times on this forum that a person seemed to support my "thought broadcasting theory", but later retracted and adopted a very aggressive and contemptuous attitude in line with "the crowd" (so to speak). I have observed such behavior with my mother too. I am inclined to believe that such erratic and contradictory behaviors are a sign of mild mental derangement on your side, rather than mine, even though I fully realize that this is not what you like to hear.

It isn't a retraction, it is an explanation. I have an autistic daughter who also didn't understand sarcasm for the first 20-odd years of her life. If you don't see the world in the same way as everyone else, it can be a confusing place. You are confused, Michel, but it is you, not us, with the problem (regarding sarcasm). We know what we mean when we say stuff. That you don't get it is your problem. That you refuse to get the help necessary to deal with that problem is a real pity..
 
It has indeed happened several times on this forum that a person seemed to support my "thought broadcasting theory", but later retracted and adopted a very aggressive and contemptuous attitude in line with "the crowd" (so to speak). I have observed such behavior with my mother too. I am inclined to believe that such erratic and contradictory behaviors are a sign of mild mental derangement on your side, rather than mine, even though I fully realize that this is not what you like to hear.

So was 3 right?

The other **** can wait
 
It has indeed happened several times on this forum that a person seemed to support my "thought broadcasting theory", but later retracted
Many posters have explained to you that a post you were misconstruing as support was sarcastic long before its author returned to confirm it. No posts have been retracted, their authors have simply confirmed what other posters had already told you.

Many posters have begged newcomers to the thread not to use sarcasm as you would not pick up on it, but would take such posts literally. The only reason they would feel it necessary to do that is if they had seen it happen. Many times.
 
Hi Michel,

I don't know if this would help but I'll give it a try anyway.

I suffer from schizophrenia-affective. I come to this forum everyday but I try not to join the conversation. I haven't had a relapse from 2001, but had one two years (I think) ago. The reason, I joined the conversation (here JREF), and it started to make me think (again) that I am super special. It is good that after two days, I realized that something was wrong with my thoughts.

Like you, I also suffer from what is called thought broadcasting. There are other things too like delusions that I am special and reports directly to God. Of course, as with thought broadcasting, I also suffer from thought insertion. Also visual and auditory hallucinations.

My first episode was way back 1988. It wasn't until 2000 that the doctors found a medication that works. Also, this forum (jref) made me realize that I have to question everything. Being an agnostic now, helps me realize that my belief of being Gods servant is an obvious delusion.

I do hope that you question what you are experiencing. There is nothing anyone can do unless you help yourself.

Wow. Great post.
:bigclap
 
... If you don't see the world in the same way as everyone else, it can be a confusing place. You are confused, Michel, but it is you, not us, with the problem (regarding sarcasm). ...
I don't rule out that many members of this forum don't see the world as anyone else, and feel overprotected by a pernicious "crowd effect". This is why I suggest that some of you talk with mental health professionals about your multiple contradictions, you disregard for evidence, and your "woo" tendency to automatically describe as "sarcasm" all testimonies that embarrass you and that you don't like. This is not how Science works, guys, you have to abide by ethical standards much higher than this.
 
Take a look at my post #2503.
You mean the one in which you nitpicked some slightly clumsy grammar and pretended to misunderstand a clarification as what this forum was previously called, whilst completely ignoring the substance of the post? Why would Donn care about that?
 
You mean the one in which you nitpicked some slightly clumsy grammar and pretended to misunderstand a clarification as what this forum was previously called, whilst completely ignoring the substance of the post? Why would Donn care about that?
Well, it seems to me the first sentence I quoted was an example of an "impossible sentence", as if I said for example "Pixel has a blue bird but the bird is red". But of course you don't want to see this because it doesn't suit your goals.
Also, saying "here JREF"..."this forum (jref)" is inaccurate because the forum name has changed: Randi decided to drop the forum after I did my first tests in it, after a period of great (download) slowness. Also note the strange case change (from JREF to jref) within the same text. Exaggerating a little (I admit it) I would say this guy seems to be half drunk ;).
 
I don't rule out that many members of this forum don't see the world as anyone else, and feel overprotected by a pernicious "crowd effect". This is why I suggest that some of you talk with mental health professionals about your multiple contradictions, you disregard for evidence, and your "woo" tendency to automatically describe as "sarcasm" all testimonies that embarrass you and that you don't like. This is not how Science works, guys, you have to abide by ethical standards much higher than this.

And again...
You at no point think how unlikely it is that we are all mentally ill but you're not?
You are taking the biscuit matey. Stop hurling insults just because you're incapable of understanding sarcasm and unable to admit you have mental issues. You've been given way too much advice already.

Well, it seems to me the first sentence I quoted was an example of an "impossible sentence", as if I said for example "Pixel has a blue bird but the bird is red". But of course you don't want to see this because it doesn't suit your goals.

Also, saying "here JREF"..."this forum (jref)" is inaccurate because the forum name has changed: Randi decided to drop the forum after I did my first tests in it, after a period of great (download) slowness. Also note the strange case change (from JREF to jref) within the same text. Exaggerating a little (I admit it) I would say this guy seems to be half drunk ;).

More insults and paranoia.

This particular thread was started in October 2013...
Still stuck on the getting people to guess one of the four numbers game...

You're doing a really good job of proving you're not mentally ill, and I heard you thinking the number 3 [!]
 
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Well, it seems to me the first sentence I quoted was an example of an "impossible sentence", as if I said for example "Pixel has a blue bird but the bird is red". But of course you don't want to see this because it doesn't suit your goals.
I see that it was clumsily expressed, but it was clear to me what he meant - that he hadn't had any relapses except for this particular incident, which came close to qualifying as a relapse.

Also, saying "here JREF"..."this forum (jref)" is inaccurate because the forum name has changed: Randi decided to drop the forum after I did my first tests in it, after a period of great (download) slowness. Also note the strange case change (from JREF to jref) within the same text.
Again it's clear to me that he is explaining that the previous visits to this forum he is referring to were made when it was still known as the JREF forum. So he didn't bother to capitalise JREF each time. So what?

Exaggerating a little (I admit it) I would say this guy seems to be half drunk
I'd say he was someone who is bravely struggling with mental issues which he has managed to acknowledge, even though the symptoms themselves actively work against him doing so. I'd say he was an example which anyone with similar mental issues should listen to and emulate. I'd say that you are trying to justify ignoring what he is saying by concentrating on finding trivial mistakes in how he is saying it.
 
Honestly is this one big experiement because I would'nt be surprised if it is Randi and the whole thread sounds utter bollocks
 
The whole thread is utter bollocks. That is obvious to everyone except the one person who needs to acknowledge that fact, and is sadly incapable of doing so.
 
I see that it was clumsily expressed, but it was clear to me what he meant - that he hadn't had any relapses except for this particular incident, which came close to qualifying as a relapse.


Again it's clear to me that he is explaining that the previous visits to this forum he is referring to were made when it was still known as the JREF forum. So he didn't bother to capitalise JREF each time. So what?


I'd say he was someone who is bravely struggling with mental issues which he has managed to acknowledge, even though the symptoms themselves actively work against him doing so. I'd say he was an example which anyone with similar mental issues should listen to and emulate. I'd say that you are trying to justify ignoring what he is saying by concentrating on finding trivial mistakes in how he is saying it.

The highlighted is the part that struck me- the courage it takes to face the problem honestly, then speak of it here. That's a courage that Michel doesn't have, and a problem he avoids facing by taking refuge in meaningless hair splits and denigration of someone he'd do better to emulate. "Guy must be half-drunk" indeed...

To jmontecillo01- adding my :th:
 
I have a profound feeling of sadness after seeing jmontecillo01 make a sincere effort to reach out only for Michel to completely dismiss it.
 
and the whole thread sounds utter bollocks

Not sure what you mean by this post.

Are you saying the way we treat Michel H is bollocks?
The posts that Michel H makes are bollocks?
His admission that he has been diagnosed has having a mental disorder is bollocks?
The idea that people with mental disorders post in this manner is bollocks?
The thread is bollocks because Michel H is taking the piss?
Something else entirely?
 
I have a profound feeling of sadness after seeing jmontecillo01 make a sincere effort to reach out only for Michel to completely dismiss it.
... The reason, I joined the conversation (here JREF), and it started to make me think (again) that I am super special. It is good that after two days, I realized that something was wrong with my thoughts.
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My first episode was way back 1988. It wasn't until 2000 that the doctors found a medication that works. ...
It seems to me he was trying to poison me (in his erratic style), this is just more of the same on this forum. It doesn't take that much courage to swallow pills, or to tell others that they are psychotic and that they should swallow pills (especially if it is a lie). Of course, those who give this "advice" are not the ones who are going to suffer from epilepsy (or worse) from the pills two months later. Doing a serious, honest and original research requires perhaps more work and courage, it seems to me.

Now I write (for example): "My first episode was way back in 1988". Perhaps, according to this gentleman, if I follow the medication path, after 12 years of trials and errors, I shall write (like him): "My first episode was way back 1988". I can see this improvement. Thank you, thank you, "JREF", I am so grateful... I wonder what the next exciting step would be. "Sssssank yu" perhaps?
 
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