ZEITGEIST, The Movie

[Grimlorn]

So Tokyo is Lyte then? That stuff about RFID chip is wrong? And why haven't you guys responded to my questions about that stuff? Do you not know?

It almost seems like I have to create a thread attacking your way of thinking and throwing out that garbage from say zeitgeist or whatever just to get a constructive response and information on the subject that is cited properly. I don't want to do it, but I see why so many people do that here.

 

[Gravy]

Did you miss Viper Daimao's post #55?

 

[Brainster]

So Tokyo is Lyte then? That stuff about RFID chip is wrong? And why haven't you guys responded to my questions about that stuff? Do you not know?

It almost seems like I have to create a thread attacking your way of thinking and throwing out that garbage from say zeitgeist or whatever just to get a constructive response and information on the subject that is cited properly. I don't want to do it, but I see why so many people do that here.

A fair criticism there, but your questions revealed a certain lack of rigorous interest that is off-putting. Let me cite just one example:

I'm also curious about this national ID card thing. Is it really going to happen in May of 2008 where we are required to have one? I remember talking about this in college before this movie was created. I just thought the teacher was being stupid but apparently there may be something to it.

There is this thing called Google. When you ask it for "national ID card" it gives you lots of different websites that have lots of different opinions about the "Real ID Act", which is something else you should search for.

And if you search hard enough you'll find that the national ID card thing is basically a requirement that states standardize their drivers' licenses so that they all contain the same basic information that your driver's license probably already contains. Cue scary music.

 

[Tokyo Psyblog]

Curious misspelling

So Tokyo is Lyte then? That stuff about RFID chip is wrong? And why haven't you guys responded to my questions about that stuff? Do you not know?

Please tell me that your curious spelling "Lyte" was not some kind of a racial slight because you think I'm Japanese... you know, the "L & R" thing...

 

[Tokyo Psyblog]

Suspending the laws of physics

Hello, Tokyo. This statement is false. There are no signs in the videos, and no other evidence, and no logical reason to believe, that WTC 7 collapsed due to anything but damage and fire, as is true with the towers. There's plenty more information about WTC 7 in the link in my signature. Please get informed. Silly unsupported claims will earn you nothing but derision here.

Unsupported? They must not teach physics in your high school. And you have obviously never watched any video clip and timed the falls of the towers. Do the math. Were the physical laws of the universe suspended for a bit? No, what I said is true, and I'll add to it: all 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable. It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

 

[beachnut]

Unsupported? They must not teach physics in your high school. And you have obviously never watched any video clip and timed the falls of the towers. Do the math. Were the physical laws of the universe suspended for a bit? No, what I said is true, and I'll add to it: all 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable. It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

Wrong. You must of flunked physics. You are so wrong it is funny. It is so easy to show the time of the fall is exactly like a model shows. Too bad you flunked physics and are unable to do the math. BTW, parts of the towers were standing 20 to 25 seconds or more after the initial fall.

Do, you need a paper too show how wrong you are? BTW millions of engineers agree with me. Only 0.00067 percent of all engineers believe the lies you beleive. You lost by millions.

There was no magic bullet, you have not been to Dallas, and you just proved with the JFK junk you are a CTer from way back. What other dumb CT ideas do you have?

 

[Unfit4Command]

Unsupported? They must not teach physics in your high school. And you have obviously never watched any video clip and timed the falls of the towers. Do the math. Were the physical laws of the universe suspended for a bit? No, what I said is true, and I'll add to it: all 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable. It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

Please tell me what the official explaination for the collapse of the Twin Towers is. Thanks.

 

[beachnut]

Please tell me that your curious spelling "Lyte" was not some kind of a racial slight because you think I'm Japanese... you know, the "L & R" thing...

You have no clue? You will not understand since you are challenged with reality.

 

[Corsair 115]

The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable. It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

How about the lunar landings? Are those a fake too?

 

[Viper Daimao]

tokyo, lyte is the name of another poster here. I guess that's what was being referred to?

I also ask you:

Please tell me what the official explaination [sic] for the collapse of the Twin Towers is. Thanks.

Also, the single bullet theory makes perfect sense when you accurately portray the positions of Kennedy and the governor.

 

[Reality Believer]

Unsupported? They must not teach physics in your high school. And you have obviously never watched any video clip and timed the falls of the towers. Do the math. Were the physical laws of the universe suspended for a bit? No, what I said is true, and I'll add to it: all 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable. It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

OMG. Have you ever seen a Godzilla movie?

"Oh no! There goes Tokyo! Go,go Godzilla"!

 

[Gravy]

Unsupported? They must not teach physics in your high school.

As far as I know they still do. I took physics with Mr. Robillard. "Two els and one I" (he wore an eye patch). Excellent, and strict, teacher. He would fail a paper if the staple in the corner wasn't at a 45-degree angle. Really.

And you have obviously never watched any video clip and timed the falls of the towers.

I'd like to know more about this. Please present your findings.

Do the math. Were the physical laws of the universe suspended for a bit?

I have no idea what you mean. Please present your findings.

No, what I said is true, and I'll add to it: all 3 buildings were brought down by controlled demolition.

This is shocking! Who else have you told about this? Which law enforcement agencies or newspapers have seen your information, and how did they respond?

The official explanation which is becoming legend is simply unbelievable.

Interesting.

It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

Are you writing from camp?

 

[Tokyo Psyblog]

Overall a frustrating waste of time

I also found this forum by way of the same blog, and frankly was greatly disappointed when I got here.

This is how I started my very first post on this forum this week, and I depart standing by this assertion, only now multiplied. Since I won't be around long enough to reach the 15-posts minimum for including URLs, you'll have to research the information yourselves if you are really interested in deciding for yourself what's really happening. Ask yourself why people feel justified in condemning and insulting you when you question "conventional wisdom" -- ie, the zeitgeist (idea of the day).

Some of you will be thrilled that I won't be back, I'm sure. No doubt that these folks will enjoy gloating that they chased me away, but that's what they do most of the time anyway.

Overall this has been a frustrating waste of time, but I did gain some insight on a couple of important things here: 1) Religious fundamentalism has a counterpart -- blind devotion to defending the "war on terror." 2) This counterpart can evoke the same emotions as "Santa Claus Syndrome" on Christmas Eve.

Also in my first post, I made reference to juvenile comments.
Here are a few, too ignorant to be funny, that back that up:

How about the lunar landings? Are those a fake too?

Huh?

OMG. Have you ever seen a Godzilla movie?
"Oh no! There goes Tokyo! Go,go Godzilla"!

Oooohhhh... clever.... (pause) NOT!

You have no clue? You will not understand since you are challenged with reality.

Again, huh?

There was no magic bullet, you have not been to Dallas, and you just proved with the JFK junk you are a CTer from way back. What other dumb CT ideas do you have?

Can you say "Warren Report"? Been to the plaza. And, uh, batter up?

Are you writing from camp?

No, but it sounds delightful! Again, huh?

Cheers! Psyblog!

 

[calebprime]

This is how I started my very first post on this forum this week, and I depart standing by this assertion, only now multiplied. Since I won't be around long enough to reach the 15-posts minimum for including URLs, you'll have to research the information yourselves if you are really interested in deciding for yourself what's really happening. Ask yourself why people feel justified in condemning and insulting you when you question "conventional wisdom" -- ie, the zeitgeist (idea of the day).

Some of you will be thrilled that I won't be back, I'm sure. No doubt that these folks will enjoy gloating that they chased me away, but that's what they do most of the time anyway.

Overall this has been a frustrating waste of time, but I did gain some insight on a couple of important things here: 1) Religious fundamentalism has a counterpart -- blind devotion to defending the "war on terror." 2) This counterpart can evoke the same emotions as "Santa Claus Syndrome" on Christmas Eve.


Can you say "Warren Report"? Been to the plaza. ...


...Again, huh?

Cheers! Psyblog!

In more than 30 years, no evidence of a JFK conspiracy has been substantiated. Check out the new Bugliosi book. On the other hand, there's tons of evidence against Oswald.

As for the WTC complex being a controlled demolition--same thing. No evidence, plus it would be impossible to rig and it wouldn't make sense.

And why have an in-depth discussion of Zeitgeist when the movie doesn't warrant it? With trash like that movie, people are only going to give it a few minutes of their attention.

On the other hand, if you had intelligent things to say, people here would have replied in kind. There's a lot of depth here, but you didn't begin to engage it.

The best conspiracy experts here (of which I'm not one) have been through this stuff a thousand times.

 

[Gravy]

Since I won't be around long enough to reach the 15-posts minimum for including URLs, you'll have to research the information yourselves if you are really interested in deciding for yourself what's really happening.

We wouldn't know how to go about that. Please come back and show us!

Some of you will be thrilled that I won't be back

No, within minutes you will be forever forgotten by the few people who read your posts.

Overall this has been a frustrating waste of time,

Well, no one can look at your seven posts of drivel and say you didn't do your best.

Can you say "Warren Report"? Been to the plaza.

I've slept at the Ritz. I hope you didn't breathe the fine mist that's always spraying from the nozzles on the grassy knoll. It'll make your Dictabelt skip permanently.

Cheers! Psyblog!

Good luck in the war canoe race!

 

[Viper Daimao]

How disappointing. He comes here, talks high and mighty, and refuses to make any arguments nor respond to any questions. Can't say I think he's very secure in his beliefs about 9/11 then eh? Oh well, maybe he'll be interested in learning the truth someday.

 

[8den]

It's just like how the last generation was told to believe the Magic Bullet Theory in the JFK execution.

The magic bullet theory is a classic strawman argument. Conspiracy Theorists claim it's the offical version of events. It's not.

Tokyo, meet the Single Bullet theory. Single bullet Theory, Tokyo.



Watched it? Good. Now take the fact that you've been working of an erroneous assumption on JFK, and step back a moment. Now look at some of the posts on this site. I recommend the stickies, as a jumping off point. You'll see there's a plethora of really good informative stuff, that demonstrates that all this Controlled Demolition junk is just that. Junk.

 

[Grimlorn]

I can see why the lunar landings are so unbelievable.

We fought with swords for thousands of years. In the late 1800's and early 1900's we just developed cars that go like 10 to 15 miles an hour or something like that?

We went from that to flying hundreds of thousands of miles to the moon in like 70 years. Its a huge leap we made.

 

[Viper Daimao]

Agreed grim, when looked at that way, it certainly was amazing. However I think the conspiracy theorist has trouble with historic perspective. They see it more as looking back on the kind of technology we had in the 60s to how much more advanced we are now.

 

[8den]

I can see why the lunar landings are so unbelievable.

We fought with swords for thousands of years. In the late 1800's and early 1900's we just developed cars that go like 10 to 15 miles an hour or something like that?

We went from that to flying hundreds of thousands of miles to the moon in like 70 years. Its a huge leap we made.

Incredible is the word you meant to use. We made fantastic leaps in every aspect of society, in the past 50 years. We've invented new artforms, communications devices, methods of transportation. We've made astonishing leaps in every scientific field, medicine. Western culture has gone on transformed our ideas on gender roles, sexuality, and other races. We engage in practices that would be scandalous to our great grandparents.

The lunar landing did not occur in a vacuum (insert Malcolm Kirkman joke here) It came on the back of extraordinary advances in technology and no how. And they did it with pencils and slide rulers.