WTC dust

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by WTC Dust
Fires smell like what's on fire.


haa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[triforcharity]

Fires smell like what's on fire. I've smelled fires before in my lifetime. Many types of fires and other smells. I'm not a fire fighter, but I've actually had to put out fires in the course of my profession! Silly grad students don't know what to do if they set the place on fire.

Months later, I'm still asking myself, "What the heck is on fire at the WTC? WHY HAVEN'T THEY BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT THE FIRE?"

Yeah, well, you see here Dusty, I am a firefighter. I have smelled hundreds, possibly even thousands of fires. This is not including the fires that I have smelled in my back yard, or while camping.

Fires do have a distinct smell. Wood smells unique. Paper smells unique. Electrical smells unique. Petrol products smell unique.

But you see, when you have things like bodies, hydrocarbons, and other items burning, it makes a unique smell. Most people have not smelled burning flesh. I have. It has a VERY unique smell. Mix all them together, and you have a single unique smell. Most had not smelled anything like that. I certainly hadn't. But, was I (or any of the other firefighters there) suprised?

Not one damn bit.

Is it really that hard to figure out what would possibly be on fire at the WTC? Wow, keep smoking that pot!

BTW, please explain why you think a tool like this http://firechief.com/mag/firefighting_waterjet_technology_cuts/ might have been invented.

It will help if you read the article.

 

[fess]

Which is why once-charred white oak barrels turn white corn liquor into delicious bourbon.

I knew there was a reason to like you.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Found on Facebook


Lasers have mystified us for ages, but did you ever imagine that the high-energy beams depicted in those sci-fi thrillers might actually defend the U.S. military in your lifetime? The concept may not be as far-fetched as you think. The Office of Naval Research's investment in directed energy could soon provide the U.S. fleet and forces with instantaneous, pinpoint-precision laser fire ...

They can do that now. The trick is to give the coherent beam of light sufficient energy to do anything. They are a long way from that. Even if they were there today, the effect would NOT be to turn a steel structure into weird dust and foam while leaving concrete intact. Instead, the effect would be to bore a hole the size of the beam through the structure.

 

[aggle-rithm]

DEW-like technology is being discussed by people inside the biz.

1. DEW-like technology discussed
2. ????
3. WTC dustified, OMG!
4. ????
5. PROFIT!

Keep at it, your theory is almost complete!

 

[aggle-rithm]

Months later, I'm still asking myself, "What the heck is on fire at the WTC? WHY HAVEN'T THEY BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT THE FIRE?"

Why do you keep asking yourself? Why not ask someone who might know the answer?

And, how many semesters of Arguing from Personal Incredulity did you take in graduate school?

 

[aggle-rithm]

That fly ash is exactly opposite in character to the dust I found. You can make a comparison of fly ash and one of my dust samples in Data Slide #3.

OK, this has got to be a joke.

 

[carlitos]

Why do you keep asking yourself? Why not ask someone who might know the answer?

And, how many semesters of Arguing from Personal Incredulity did you take in graduate school?

Great questions. This appears to be the #1 charactistic of the "truth" people here. It's as if all of mankind's learning in a given subject doesn't matter; they have to learn it all somehow for themselves, despite never asking an expert for help.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

And just how does that happen? How does air get forced into a contiguous solid to form a foam?

Mechanistically, Dr. Wood has the best idea, even though she doesn't really talk about foam per se or multiple types of dust.

She says the damage has the hallmarks of an energy weapon.

Explain please.

How does air get forced into a contiguous solid to form a foam?

 

[NutCracker]

Great questions. This appears to be the #1 charactistic of the "truth" people here. It's as if all of mankind's learning in a given subject doesn't matter; they have to learn it all somehow for themselves, despite never asking an expert for help.

IMNSHO, their interest is in creating puzzles ("anomalies"). The more of these puzzles there are, the more they are "in the know," the more suspicious and evil the "official story" becomes. The more they are in the know, the more intellectual superior they are. The more evil the government is, the braver they are standing up to it. Their goal is to inflate their ego's.

Actually resolving any of these puzzles, i.e. learning, runs contrary to their goal.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

I don't know. Have there ever been underground fires in NYC before? Or have there been underground fires in an equivalent metropolitan area?

Is Burning Mountain located in a metropolitan area similar to where the WTC was located?

Please elaborate on why you think that the fact that it is a metropolitan area is important.

 

[tsig]

Fires smell like what's on fire. I've smelled fires before in my lifetime. Many types of fires and other smells. I'm not a fire fighter, but I've actually had to put out fires in the course of my profession! Silly grad students don't know what to do if they set the place on fire.

Months later, I'm still asking myself, "What the heck is on fire at the WTC? WHY HAVEN'T THEY BEEN ABLE TO PUT OUT THE FIRE?"

But you never thought to walk over there and ask someone?

 

[Rolls]

Which is why once-charred white oak barrels turn white corn liquor into delicious bourbon.

Knob Creek=Perfection!

 

[Dragonrock]

DEW-like technology is being discussed by people inside the biz.

You are aware that this forum is made up of people that have a real interest in science and there are articles posted every day about new science discoveries. Plus, many of the poster work in scientific pursuits so it's likely that someone here is "inside the biz". One would have to wonder how all of us managed to miss something as nifty as a working DEW.

 

[twinstead]

Maybe he meant Mountain DEW?

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Don't mistate my opinions.

I do not believe that DEW destroyed the World Trade Center. What I do believe is that I've never seen an effective debunking of the DEW theory, or of any single thing that Dr. Judy Wood has ever proposed scientifically.

If you've got it, show it. Otherwise DEW remains undebunked. DEW isn't my theory. My theory doesn't contradict DEW, but it's not about DEW. You need to clear your heads and understand that you are communicating with an independent researcher, 9/11 survivor, and resident of lower Manhattan, not some lackey of Dr. Wood. I only know her through her work, you understand. Whether or not she is crazy or needs a haircut or might have a crush on John Hutchison is irrelevant.

The fact that you aren't capable of understanding the debunking doesn't mean it hasn't been debunked. It just means your education is flawed.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

You might be right because I never read science fiction, or fiction of any sort, except the classics. I never watch dramas or go to any movies that aren't documentaries. I don't like filling my head up with fakery, which is probably why I recognized that something was wrong with the 9/11 story the moment I heard it.

False things don't have a place in my brain, and I include fiction and especially science fiction in this category. I'm very unusual in this regard. For a very highly educated person to avoid fiction of every type is rare. I'd say it's unique. But it lead me to become an excellent researcher, so good for me.


Eventually, you will agree. I'm onto something here. If you pay attention to what I'm actually saying (as opposed to DEW and Dr. Wood and whether or not I need medication), then you will slowly start to see me as a great scientist. I have a world history changing story within my grasp, and I want to get it right.

You'll do me a favor if you weed out the errors, but me having mental illness isn't the truth, so it can't be weeded out. I need you all to weed out the stuff that isn't true. After you see my full presentation, of course.

You've only seen the first data slide, and you haven't even commented directly on it, so it might take a while.

And yet you seem to have seen Back to the Future:

I'm guessing the closest thing in fictional work that describes the weapon is the "flux capacitor" used in Back to the Future. Remember how the professor throws a banana and a beer can inside it in order to generate 2.1 gigawatts of power? Something like that.

I don't have a picture of the weapon, so don't ask for it. I do have many pictures of the damage done by this weapon, however. It is erroneously claimed that gravity alone is powerful enough to do what was done, and I find that hilarious.

Me thinks a person should stop lying if he/she can't keep them consist.

 

[Newtons Bit]

It's not my DEW, and it isn't a Laser. Lasers amplify light (defined as the part of the electromagnetic spectrum that can be perceived by humans). The particular wavelength of energy used might not have been in the narrow visible part of the spectrum.

Invisible waves, yes. But this isn't strange. This is normal. Most electromagnetic radiation isn't visible to humans.

You already claimed it was in the 10^12 range. That's at the very edge of the visible spectrum. Are you backtracking on this claim now?

 

[TheBigKahuna]

The only claim I am making that is my own research begins with the picture of the dust in situ. Would you like to start talking about what I'm actually trying to present, now? Or we could waste more time talking about DEW and Judy Wood. Your choice. Not that those aren't interesting subjects to me, just that I didn't come here to talk about Judy's work.

I came here to talk about my work. The dust.

Then talk about your work. Oh, you can't cause you're not a monkey to perform on demand right? I'm sure when I get to 80, you'll still be talking about your pretty picture, with the shinies.

 

[WTC Dust]

Check out the cnn article titled "Space-time cloak could conceal events".

Excerpt:
(CNN) -- New materials with the ability to manipulate the speed of light could enable the creation of a "space-time cloak" capable of masking events or even creating an illusion of "Star Trek"-style transportation, according to scientists in London.

The cloak, while currently only existing in mathematical theory, takes advantage of the potential properties of "metamaterials" -- artificial materials designed and manipulated at a molecular level to interact with and control electromagnetic waves.

Scientists have previously demonstrated that one possible use of metamaterials could be to render objects invisible by bending light around them.