WTC dust

[phiwum]

Potentially true. Construction dust doesn't tend to fly upwards of eight stories, though,

Right. And no one ever cut sheetrock or worked with metal above eight stories high (say, on the roof of this building or in an adjacent building) ever.

If you never checked whether anyone did dust-generating work on the roof of this building or near it, then how do you know whether this dust was primarily deposited on 9/11?

and in fact, my samples were rather pristine, except the cigarette butts. They looked just like dust samples that were laid down on 9/11.

Oh, well, if they look the same, then we're all done, right?

But if they look the same, how come no one else is going on and on about metallic foam?

Anyway, I understand. You can see a very closeup photo of fly ash and immediately realize that it's different. You can look at another photo of dust from 9/11 and realize that it's the same. Clearly, you've done your homework!

 

[tsig]

If you suggest that contamination occurred, you should be able to back up your claims. I told you about the cigarette butts nearby. They weren't actually touching my samples, but they were nearby. Other than that...don't know what would have contaminated my samples.

They were subjected to changing temperatures and humidity, but never to direct precipitation.

Why didn't the rain fall thru the open hole?

Why are you saying it didn't? That doesn't make sense at all!

WTC Dust, you're the one who said rain never fell on your sample.

 

[tsig]

Yeah, as Tank Commander on the Abrams, I was never in danger from anything. I was completely safe from all elements of warfare because my tank weighed 72 tons, far exceeding any munitions propelled towards it.

Except for the dreaded DEW. You'd have felt mighty funny if they'd suddenly dustified your tank and there you were sitting in the desert in a pile of dust.

 

[jhunter1163]

Thread temporarily closed. I will be moving posts to AAH, splitting off the no-plane discussion as it is not relevant to the dust discussion, and likely issuing some infractions. When the thread is reopened, let us all remember our Membership Agreement.

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[jhunter1163]

Thread reopened.

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[Unsecured Coins]

thread reopened.

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[triforcharity]

first

See you in AAH!!! LOL!!

 

[dc1971]

I came here because I wanted to battle the debunkers directly, but most of what has been said has been irrelevant or insults. Not a debunking. So it's has been largely a waste of my time, too, but with some little tidbits of good.

Like make a photoshop picture of Godzilla with a red mohawk?

 

[aggle-rithm]

I've heard it called a collapse a zillion and one time. I've looked at images of the buildings as they were being destroyed, both moving and still, and I see dust, not a collapse.

Look at a few building implosions and you will see the same dust. Are all these buildings being destroyed by DEW?

 

[aggle-rithm]

Research scientists go about explaining previously unexplained phenomena. Thinking and a good imagination, grounded with good sense, is required.

You don't appear to have any of these attributes. Are you admitting defeat now?

 

[jiggeryqua]

Research scientists go about explaining previously unexplained phenomena. Thinking and a good imagination, grounded with good sense, is required.

You don't appear to have any of these attributes. Are you admitting defeat now?

Be fair - even without the godzilla-with-a-pink-mohican WTCDust has demonstrated an active and vivid imagination.

 

[leftysergeant]

Be fair - even without the godzilla-with-a-pink-mohican WTCDust has demonstrated an active and vivid imagination.

There are points at which imagination, delusion and confabulation intersect.

 

[Architect]

The thread seems to have descended into insults hurled in the general direction of someone who is either delusional or taking the piss. I suggest you all let it die before more infractions get fired around.

 

[WTC Dust]

Look at a few building implosions and you will see the same dust. Are all these buildings being destroyed by DEW?

Implosions look different from explosions. You're not saying there was an implosion at the WTC, are you? Implosions go down and in. Explosions go up and out. There was very little debris in the "footprint" of the Twin Towers. Most of the dust spread out all over lower Manhattan, and the steel that was left was located outside the footprint.

The high school physicist in you must wonder what that horizontal force was.

 

[WTC Dust]

The thread seems to have descended into insults hurled in the general direction of someone who is either delusional or taking the piss. I suggest you all let it die before more infractions get fired around.

delusional, taking the piss, or correct

 

[applecorped]

you can have my piss if you like.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

Since the foam has had time to come to equilibrium with the atmosphere, the bubbles are filled with air. Like a sponge. There's nothing but air in the holes.

And just how does that happen? How does air get forced into a contiguous solid to form a foam?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

When you claim that the length of time that the debris pile was smoldering ("fuming " as you say) is atypical, what are you basing that claim on?

In other words, what are you comparing to that you would consider a typical length of time for an underground fire to burn?

More to the point: In 2004, the University Ridge apartment complex burned down in Clemson. That was a 3 story wood framed apartment complex of about 50 units. The fire department in Clemson spent 3 days pouring water on the smoldering ruins, in February, for a fire that was entirely above ground. Thankfully, no one was harmed in the fire.

In conclusion: Fire hot! Fire make burn! Fire burn long time! Make water go on fire!

3 days is reasonable. 300 days is not.

You missed (or ignored) my question.


What would you consider a typical length of time for an underground fire to burn?

 

[Alferd_Packer]

It was a fake plane.

HOW was it a fake plane?

It was made out of dust held together by a tetrahertz holographic field.

 

[djlunacee]

Mostly empty space? Are you kidding? Steel exterior beams (covered in aluminum cladding), steel spandrel plates, and windows, and you call that "mostly empty space"?

You're telling me that a plane crashed into the WTC, but missed hitting the steel on the exterior, and I call schenanigans on that. At least the parts of the plane that hit the steel should have bounced backwards and they don't, at least not in the videos of 9:03AM.

Like it or not the towers were mostly air. Open floor plans.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_msOWK1_C4AY/TFYMjYc3EeI/AAAAAAAAETY/wwMREfiwcAo/s320/Towers+UnClad.jpg

Amazing.