Why church is so dangerous !!!

[calebprime]

I know I'm being silly, but was it:

The Savage God--A. Alvarez

or

essays in self-destruction --shneidman

???

two classics on the subject...

 

[jsfisher]

I know I'm being silly, but was it:

The Savage God--A. Alvarez

or

essays in self-destruction --shneidman

???

two classics on the subject...

You are trying too hard. It is doubtful DJJ has ever even seen the book, let along know the real title.

Remember, there'd no reason for DJJ to have actually read the book; simply being told it might have a DJJ Forbidden Subject^TM was sufficient to demand censorship and to pray to Sky Daddy to lay down some smack.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

You guys are truly sick, the only time you will ever research is when you try to disprove a truth.

I fought for two years against that dam book, but no book was ever thrown out of any required reading course, and they couldn't openly start with one even as obnoxious as this one or cut out this one essay that could easily KILL a teen that obeyed its tenets.

But you guys love the system so much and believe whatever insanity is forced upon your children, and will never ever say anything against those that run you. and destroy your children, your teens or whoever.

You have zero courage , zero balls and are dupes for the system.

Patriotism kills and you must also love it. As you have zero discernment and always excuse whatever truth comes your way.

You just have no principles and therefore can NOT discern between anything that you write about.

Disgusting, shameful and worse.

Pro-suicide was taught and they could not be seen to openly relent to citizens that caught them in their perfidity.

You people are NAIVE as naive gets, only because you will never buck the flow downward. You will always obey the government, and always fight for your governments and systems as you think they butter your bread and give you life.

Jesus gives life, not the dam system. And pro-suicide takes away life.

And I fought it, which of you would fight it. I repeat, WHICVH OF YOU WOULD HAVE FOUGHT IT.

I repeat which of you weak kneed ones would have fought pro-suicide. Is there one of you that would have.

Forget the essay for a second, which of you would fight for life against suicide.

 

[Complexity]

DJJ - You are one queer duck.

Suicide is a right. I hope that people don't kill themselves during momentary despair or from mental illness. All of us will die, and many will linger in pain, or will suffer the loss of their minds. A good death, chosen and prepared for, is far better than prolonging suffering to placate your sadistic 'god'.

And what the hell do you have against crucifixion jokes?

 

[slingblade]

Pro-suicide was taught and they could not be seen to openly relent to citizens that caught them in their perfidity.

I don't believe you. You are lying, again.

Forget the essay for a second.

You'd like that, but it isn't going to happen.

Show any proof that you're telling the truth. Any proof.
Know what? States often post their curriculum on their edu sites. Yeah. They do. Why don't you go see if you can find even one state in which suicide education is part of the standard curriculum.

We'll be here.

 

[jsfisher]

I fought for two years against that dam book, but no book was ever thrown out of any required reading course, and they couldn't openly start with one even as obnoxious as this one or cut out this one essay that could easily KILL a teen that obeyed its tenets.

And what book was that? By the way, the word is "damn".

But you guys love the system so much and believe whatever insanity is forced upon your children, and will never ever say anything against those that run you. and destroy your children, your teens or whoever.

Not true. Not true at all. We have simply learned that you are a persistent liar. You utter falsehoods. You deliberately misspeak. You attempt to deceive by your statements. Fortunately, you aren't very good at it, despite your extensive practice.

In short, it is you we distrust and discredit, and with cause.

You have zero courage , zero balls and are dupes for the system.

Big words from someone with as many character faults as you have demonstrated. But, again, it is you we distrust and discredit first and foremost. The "system" we deal with as appropriate, without your cloak of delusion.

Patriotism kills and you must also love it.

Religious zealots, such as yourself, kill far more...and we already know you love it. No need to presume there.

As you have zero discernment and always excuse whatever truth comes your way.

You just have no principles and therefore can NOT discern between anything that you write about.

How would you know? All you have done is babbled based on your zealous beliefs. No evidence or contradictory evidence is all you offer. You misrepresent fundamental facts of nature (e.g. the distance between Earth and Moon), you misquote the Bible, and you cling to a series of ever-evolving false prophecies. Your world is an illusion, and you blame us for pointing out it isn't real.

Disgusting, shameful and worse.

Pro-suicide was taught and they could not be seen to openly relent to citizens that caught them in their perfidity.

So you say...without evidence...and the voracity of your statements are, shall we say, suspect.

Perfidity?

You people are NAIVE as naive gets, only because you will never buck the flow downward. You will always obey the government, and always fight for your governments and systems as you think they butter your bread and give you life.

More baseless statements on your part.

Jesus gives life, not the dam system. And pro-suicide takes away life.

TVA is a dam system. Your "pro-suicide" claim is without merit, and most probably an out-right lie if your track record is any indicator.

And I fought it, which of you would fight it. I repeat, WHICVH OF YOU WOULD HAVE FOUGHT IT.

I repeat which of you weak kneed ones would have fought pro-suicide. Is there one of you that would have.

Forget the essay for a second, which of you would fight for life against suicide.

If that is the standard by which you wish to compare, then you need to provide evidence of your fight against "pro-suicide".

Evidence, real evidence, and not the usual dribble for which you have gained notoriety.

 

[bruto]

You guys are truly sick, the only time you will ever research is when you try to disprove a truth.

I fought for two years against that dam book, but no book was ever thrown out of any required reading course, and they couldn't openly start with one even as obnoxious as this one or cut out this one essay that could easily KILL a teen that obeyed its tenets.

But you guys love the system so much and believe whatever insanity is forced upon your children, and will never ever say anything against those that run you. and destroy your children, your teens or whoever.

You have zero courage , zero balls and are dupes for the system.

Patriotism kills and you must also love it. As you have zero discernment and always excuse whatever truth comes your way.

You just have no principles and therefore can NOT discern between anything that you write about.

Disgusting, shameful and worse.

Pro-suicide was taught and they could not be seen to openly relent to citizens that caught them in their perfidity.

You people are NAIVE as naive gets, only because you will never buck the flow downward. You will always obey the government, and always fight for your governments and systems as you think they butter your bread and give you life.

Jesus gives life, not the dam system. And pro-suicide takes away life.

And I fought it, which of you would fight it. I repeat, WHICVH OF YOU WOULD HAVE FOUGHT IT.

I repeat which of you weak kneed ones would have fought pro-suicide. Is there one of you that would have.

Forget the essay for a second, which of you would fight for life against suicide.

Every single thing you said above is wrong. It's also, as is your habit, highly insulting, and should be cited any time you accuse people of ad hominem attacks. How dare you tell me or anyone else that I have no principles or no balls, that I am sick, or that I am "disgusting, shameful and worse," because I have the gall to question the assertions of a pseudonymous internet acquaintance who has repeatedly shown himself to be arrogant, delusional, ignorant and mendacious? You certainly know little enough of anyone's life here, or the lives of those around us, to utter such spectacularly insensitive, stupid, uninformed, cruel and ignorant rubbish about what anyone has or has not done, will or will not do, with relation to suicide, the government, or anything else for that matter. Rule 8 prevents me from expressing my opinion fully on this matter, except to say that I think you have gotten your head so far up your rectum that everything you see, feel and do is inside out and backwards.

I asked for the name of the book because if what you said is true, I want to find the book, determine the truth of your statement and act accordingly. I am not trying to disprove a truth, I am trying to discover it. You have made assertions about this battle and this book repeatedly. You say that this is an important issue, and that others should join you in it, but how can anyone do so without the most basic and simple information? If it's such a dangerous book, you need to get the word out. But how can that be done if you cannot tell us what the book is? Do you expect people to go to school boards and say "I heard from some guy on the internet who posts on a forum with a made up name, that there's a book about suicide - I don't know the title, but I'm against it?" What other reason would you have to withhold the title and author of the book but that you are lying about it? If you are not lying, tell us what this book is so we can make an informed judgment.

 

[Athyrio]

You guys are truly sick, the only time you will ever research is when you try to disprove a truth.

I fought for two years against that dam book, but no book was ever thrown out of any required reading course, and they couldn't openly start with one even as obnoxious as this one or cut out this one essay that could easily KILL a teen that obeyed its tenets.

But you guys love the system so much and believe whatever insanity is forced upon your children, and will never ever say anything against those that run you. and destroy your children, your teens or whoever.

You have zero courage , zero balls and are dupes for the system.

Patriotism kills and you must also love it. As you have zero discernment and always excuse whatever truth comes your way.

You just have no principles and therefore can NOT discern between anything that you write about.

Disgusting, shameful and worse.

Pro-suicide was taught and they could not be seen to openly relent to citizens that caught them in their perfidity.

You people are NAIVE as naive gets, only because you will never buck the flow downward. You will always obey the government, and always fight for your governments and systems as you think they butter your bread and give you life.

Jesus gives life, not the dam system. And pro-suicide takes away life.

And I fought it, which of you would fight it. I repeat, WHICVH OF YOU WOULD HAVE FOUGHT IT.

I repeat which of you weak kneed ones would have fought pro-suicide. Is there one of you that would have.

Forget the essay for a second, which of you would fight for life against suicide.

The only insanity here would be if you have taught your own children to be disgusting liars and as delusional as you are.

We might be on your side if you would just link us to the book and let us decide for ourselves.

Given your track record of twaddle, why should any of us take your word for what this book might be about?

Why ask which of us would have fought it when we can't even see it?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

The only insanity here would be if you have taught your own children to be disgusting liars and as delusional as you are.

We might be on your side if you would just link us to the book and let us decide for ourselves.

Given your track record of twaddle, why should any of us take your word for what this book might be about?

Why ask which of us would have fought it when we can't even see it?

I repeat which of you would fight against suicide ? Which of you would fight for someone's life ?

Answer the question.

I did and would again.

Would you ?

Don;t say it never happens. Would you fight for a teens life, and try to protect them from committing suicide ?

Answer the question ?

YES or NO

Is there not one courageous person amongst you ?

Surely one of you would try to protect a life of a teen ?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Edited by Darat: 

Rule 6 breach removed.

 

[slingblade]

Still avoiding the proof part, I see.

A liar and a coward. And a shameless appeal to emotion.

You're a fraud, DJJ.

 

[RandFan]

Don;t say it never happens. Would you fight for a teens life, and try to protect them from committing suicide ?

?

What the hell does this have to do with anything?

I worked as counselor to a boys home for a couple years and we had a young man who attempted suicide. I was the one who called for the ambulance and provided grief counseling to the other boys.

 

[Macoy]

Maybe it's the bible; I can imagine a young, earnest and eager djj studying the bible for its truth. What does he find? Here it says: "Do something ghastly!" There it says: "Thou shalt not be ghastly!"

Somewhere in there is probably a passage that advocates suicide, djj has read it and it created a little seed of doubt, which has grown within him, despite his attempts at its suppression. He has created personal "myths" that he hides in to avoid his other, sceptical self. It has created a schism within him.

It is not us that he is really branding as 'false sceptics' but himself, and that is why he will not answer the questions. If he does, he will be facing his own true scepticism and that makes him scared.

But you can do it, David. Come out, come into the light.

 

[jsfisher]

I don't lie

The evidence proves conclusively that you do lie. Are you asking for a review of the evidence, or are you simply practicing your lying art yet again in the hopes of getting better at it?

 

[calebprime]

I repeat which of you would fight against suicide ? Which of you would fight for someone's life ?

Answer the question.

...
YES or NO

...

yes

 

[JimBenArm]

Would I fight for a teen's life? Yes. Did you? No.

Either you have lied about the existance of this book, or if the book existed you turned tail and ran at the first sign of things getting a bit difficult for you, and left teens in danger for your own safety, which means you are a coward.

So which are you? Liar or coward?

Well, I suppose you could be both. I'm pretty much betting on it.

 

[bruto]

I repeat which of you would fight against suicide ? Which of you would fight for someone's life ?

Answer the question.

I did and would again.

Would you ?

Don;t say it never happens. Would you fight for a teens life, and try to protect them from committing suicide ?

Answer the question ?

YES or NO

Is there not one courageous person amongst you ?

Surely one of you would try to protect a life of a teen ?

Of course I would, as I'm sure just about anyone here would do. I see no evidence that you have done so, except to say here that you raised a fuss about a book which may or may not exist. When asked for the name of the book you dodge the question and accuse others of weakness and worse. You give every reason to believe that you are a despicable liar, a coward and a hypocrite, and no reason to believe otherwise. If you are not that, then try making a truthful statement with factual content that is responsive to the question: what's the book, who's the author, where and when was such a book required?

 

[JonnyFive]

What year did DJJ allude to this event happening in? That book caleb linked to on Amazon was published in 2001, so maybe it's something else.

Like, I don't know, something DJJ made up in his head.

 

[Oualawouzou]

Heck, we want to fight suicide. We want to protect fellow humans. We want to make sure suicide is never taught in school. So please help us, and tell us what is this book so that we may all check our schools' curriculum and take appropriate action. By not answering this question, you may be directly responsible for the death of thousands of innocents!

Won't you think of the children?

 

[Foster Zygote]

Like any pathological liar, Djj gets most upset when his lies are discovered and he is pressed for evidence. He tries to deflect attention from the lie by acting indignant. But no matter how obvious the lie he will never admit to it.