What is wrong with what Steorn is doing?

I have manged to obtain a secret picture of the device

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Yep. Too bad they won't tell us when it will be shown:



On the July stuff we are not going to pre-announce the actual dates. ... The press release will be issued the day the event start ... Its a decision we have made based on advise from our PR company. And its one that we will not change.
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We could write a text book on how to sucker people based on them alone, I think.
 
Blight said:
Looks like Steorn just commented that their july demo will indeed show an Over Unity device in action.
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That's hardly new: according to this story they were demonstrating a device that was allegedly 285% efficient as long ago as last August.
So, as they prepare to demonstrate this wonder of science to me at their modest offices near the Liffey, I feel all the excitement of Christmas Day. There is a test rig with wheels and cogs and four magnets meticulously aligned so as to create the maximum tension between their fields and one other magnet fixed to a point opposite. A motor rotates the wheel bearing the magnets and a computer takes 28,000 measurements a second. The magnets, naturally, act upon one another. And when it is all over, the computer tells us that almost three times the amount of energy has come out of the system as went in. In fact, this piece of equipment is 285% efficient.
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So, as they prepare to demonstrate this wonder of science to me at their modest offices near the Liffey, I feel all the excitement of Christmas Day. There is a test rig with wheels and cogs and four magnets meticulously aligned so as to create the maximum tension between their fields and one other magnet fixed to a point opposite. A motor rotates the wheel bearing the magnets and a computer takes 28,000 measurements a second. The magnets, naturally, act upon one another. And when it is all over, the computer tells us that almost three times the amount of energy has come out of the system as went in. In fact, this piece of equipment is 285% efficient.
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Well that quote certainly explains their claims. Anyone want to bet that it's a very spiky waveform that they're taking measurements of?
 
mojo:
this is with regards to their july demo which is supposed to be public.
 
Nice one Horatius...

As for why they're delaying, supposedly, they've improved on the design since then and they have demoed it in closed sessions for commercial entities (i'm basing this on small snippets written here and there over the months).
 
Blight said:
Nice one Horatius...

As for why they're delaying, supposedly, they've improved on the design since then and they have demoed it in closed sessions for commercial entities
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Well, that's what I'd call "the excuse" rather than "the reason".



Blight said:
(i'm basing this on small snippets written here and there over the months).
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And we're back to where we started. This is all based on "snippets", dribbled out over months, in various locations. When it would be trivial to just show the damn thing running a light bulb, and shut everybody up.

And despite this, the Steorn folks still feel justified in getting all pissy whenever someone suggests they're a fraud....which is exactly what I'd expect a fraud to do :)
 
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