What is wrong with what Steorn is doing?

BillyJoe said:
The Netherlands (Nederland) became known as such sometime during the 1500s. It consisted of 17 provinces. Of these, 7 together were known as Holland. In the mid 1800s, Holland was split into two - North Holland and South Holland. At present there is actually no province called Holland. However, then as now, the name Holland is often extended to the whole country. Hence their festivals are usually called Holland Festival. They aslo refer to themselves as the Dutch. However their language is more commonly called Hollandsch or Nederlandsch. The Dutch name for Germany is Deutschland.

It's all very confusing.
In fact I am not totally sure I have got this all right any more.
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Not all of it, in fact. It is 'Hollands' or 'Nederlands' without the 'ch'. Ik weet het, want ik woon zelf in Nederland.
 
More importantly:

1) Why is the message box so narrow?
2) Why is there not a default space between quote and reply?
 
Come on, guys! This is THE INVENTION OF MANKIND! The machine that saves us from doom! The ultimate energy machine! The holy grail of science. The shame of the 1st Law of Thermodynamics.

And all I hear is 'we are not a scam', and ' it is no hoax'... Unbelieveable!!
All I can hope is that the webcam Steorn will use has some higher resolution than 48*56 pixels....
 
Blight said:
I thought he was pretty straight forward, nothing really new except maybe 22 jurers instead of 12, but serious, it could be 200 and until we actually something from the jury, it doesn't mean much.

I guess we'll see something on july 7th, hopefully more than just a distant view from a camera.
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You don't find it disappointing that the promised technical specification aren't being made available. They stated that they'd release them at the end of Q1, and it's now two weeks later.

His own forum attacked him for back-pedalling and saying there would be nothing more than the "Aww shucks, we're really sincere, just trust us and you'll be pleased.." video. He then stalled until 18:00 hrs and jumbled together some figures on one of his charts.

The cheerleading section on the Steorn forum have started manning the lifeboats. So he's got 22 jurors instead of 12? Whooppee! A press release would've sufficed for that, but he made a press release earlier that said he'd have technical specs made available by the end of Q1. Seems that they use press releases for BS and then videos to scratch the loyalists behind the ears to get them purring again. This time, apparently their own boosters are having trouble with the ploy.

Again, why does this inventor of the device that is going to save mankind spend his time goosing the members of his forum, and not getting this product finished and tested and delivered?

Blith, I'd like to see this be real. It truly would change the world. But it just smacks so much of scam (at worst) or delusion (at best) that I can't take it seriously. Never mind the evil Big Oil killing them all and stealing and suppressing it. If this was even remotely real, he'd have every entrepreneur in the world lining up to buy him out or make him a billionaire. Do we think Gates has any interest in paying electric bills? He'd bankroll this in a heartbeat. Branson? Ditto! Dozens of others.....

The New Billionaires would love to cut into the power-base of the old - it's how they got where they are, and the person who controls this thing would control the world, bwahahahha! Hell, even Dylan Avery has his Mark Cuban!

They picked their jury in December, signed them in January, and they still haven't started the tests. Yet, he's announcing another PR event in July. How long now before he starts warning people not to expect what he promised (yet again) for the July event. He told his fan club that he'd be having event in the US and UK. Now it's just the UK. Pretty soon, it'll be "Oh, well, yes it's going to be in the UK, but not at a big public event like we said,... You misunderstood, we'll be having a video conference in Marge Somerset's laundry room in Leeds."
 
...hey, this sounds just like the "Changes to the JREF Million Dollar Challenge" thread.

(not much happening there either ;) )
 
Pretty soon, it'll be "Oh, well, yes it's going to be in the UK, but not at a big public event like we said,... You misunderstood, we'll be having a video conference in Marge Somerset's laundry room in Leeds."
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Lol, this is exactly what I meant. 'We have the solution for global warming, the energy-crisis, the Club-of-Rome-ultimate-disaster-schedule, you name it, but err, we had a slight server problem yesterday evening, so, err, the event-of-the-year is uhh, postponed, but keep looking in the Free Liverpool Ad-paper, we will post an ad before Christmas 2012 about our coming-out, so stay tuned'
 
Oh, no, it's not that important, they're just aiming to apply their efforts more effectively.
 
Well, the promise that "detailed technical specifications will be made available at the end of Quarter 1, 2007" has now been replaced with:
Technical Specifications
Orbo is based upon the principle of time variant magneto-mechanical interactions. The core output from our Orbo technology is mechanical. This mechanical energy can be converted into electrical energy using standard generator technology either by integrating such technology directly with Orbo or by connecting the mechanical output from Orbo to the generation technology. The efficiency of such mechanical/electrical conversions is highly dependent on the components used and is also a function of size.

Orbo technology is subject to continuous development. This development is focused on improving the manufacturability of the technology, production costs and power density. Orbo was initially developed as using stop-start mechanisms (with a power density of 0.5 Watts per cm3), Steorn is currently finalizing the development of constant motion systems and a significant improvement in power density is anticipated.
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Not quite as detailed as people were expecting, perhaps?
 
Mojo said:
Well, the promise that "detailed technical specifications will be made available at the end of Quarter 1, 2007" has now been replaced with:



Not quite as detailed as people were expecting, perhaps?
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Thanx - do you know what time that went up? I didn't see it when looking on Saturday (it's Sunday here).

The guys at PHYSORG must be having a ball with this. It sounds like the "Dem Bones" theory of energy...

Dem ohms, dem ohms, dem free Ohms...
Dem watts, dem watts, dem free watts...
Yes, dat's the way of the Steorn
Oh, The mag bone's connected to the mech bone
The mech bone's connected to the elect bone
And the elec bone's connected to the black box
And dat's the way of the Orb
:spjimlad: :spjimlad:

Interesting that this seems to now be the first time that they're dropping in concerns about production cost and size, two things that actual physicists have been pointing at all along.

And, by the way, as there's another thread on it (Earth Day), elsewhere, I should mention that their July demonstration (whatever that's to be) is linked to the date of the Earth Day celebrations, July 7. Maybe they're going to have a booth near the tie-dye lady?
 
Thanks, Mojo. I was looking for something in "News".... Silly me! It's not even dated on their site, and I can't remember if that was their previous "Our Technology" page or if it's new. I'm sure it's at least newer than the last time I read that page several months ago. I'd remember if they had introduced size and cost to the equation (for lack of a better term).
 
aUP:
Doubtful, we'll get some sort of something on july 7th. And supposedly some sort of jury announcement and a licensing scheme toward the end of the year.

Worse case, 2 years and it'll either change the world or disappear in a whisper of smoke.
 
Perhaps it was so obvious that no one else even bothered. :D
That could mean you were actually less convinced than the rest of us. ;)
 
Looks like sean (steorn ceo) released a few more tidbits,
It appears that their demo device to be displayed july 7th will be self-sustaining and be on display for around 10 days. It will be covered by live webcams and I guess will have a physical location where people can go and take a peek at it.

I doubt that will say too much really as it's not too hard to hide an energy source in a closed environment. Still... Interesting to see how this develops.
 
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