What is paranormal in Homeopathy

[Perpetual Notion]

Thank you. I do have to provide them with proof of my measles, mumps and rubella vaccination before I can register though, so you see - it is all part of a great conspiracy

 

[Chris Haynes]

Just a modest proposal for dealing with homeopathic concentrations - the x and C (and D) labels are quite confusing.
... snip of stuff that I really am NOT familiar with ...

Who needs the x and C notation?

I think it would be useful to change the labeling laws to be consistent.

I was recently shown a bottle of some cold remedy that person swore by. The zinc content was shown to be someting like 12X. It was limpossible to explain to her what the homeopathic notation meant. One reason was because she thought it was another way to say "percentage" (she thought it was closer to 12%), and she kept saying "But it works!'.

I think that it would be more useful to list the percentage of content for each ingreadient out to about 6 significant digits (just a random number). So the contents would read:

Active Ingredient: Zinc - 0.000000 %

Inactive Ingredient: Water - 100.00000 %

 

[Rolfe]

Just a modest proposal for dealing with homeopathic concentrations - the x and C (and D) labels are quite confusing. Most of us are familiar with the pH scale, where the p function means -log<SUB>10</SUB>, i.e. if [H<SUP>+</SUP>] = 0.01 mol L<SUP>-1</SUP> pH = 2 etc. If we use this function on the NaCl solution, originally 1 mol L<SUP>-1</SUP> and then diluted to 0.01 mol L<SUP>-1</SUP>, 1C in homeopaths' parlance would be pNa<SUP>+</SUP> = pCl<SUP>-</SUP> = 2. Around pNa<SUP>+</SUP> = 24 and at higher p values the numbers start getting ridiculous and we have fractional values of atomic particles per litre of solution.

Who needs the x and C notation?

Just as soon as you can reliably tell us the exact chemical composition of the mother tincture, carry on.

Rolfe.

 

[Badly Shaved Monkey]

Was this natural? Were those living in nature? Was this naturally ingested? Whatever the case, accidents are also natural or these do happen in nature? No accidents, no/less natural deaths, excess etc...may be bit unnatural?

The death of ducks from botulism is all part of nature. So another of your silly ideas is a dead duck!

 

[anor277]

Rolfe wrote
Just as soon as you can reliably tell us the exact chemical composition of the mother tincture, carry on.

Of course you're right; the practice doesn't seem to have any internal consistency and the 'x's and 'C's are there for show.

 

[Kumar]

The death of ducks from botulism is all part of nature. So another of your silly ideas is a dead duck!

Balancing the species & its numbers is also part of nature.

Botulism is a food poisoning. The toxin-producing bacterium, C. botulinum, is common in surface soils of both the terrestrial and the aquatic environment. Toxins are produced only when conditions favor growth and multiplication of the bacterium.

Type C toxin occurs in carcasses of dead invertebrates, in the flesh of birds dying of botulism, and in maggots feeding on toxic carcasses. In a type C botulism outbreak the sequence of events are: aquatic invertebrates ingest the bacterium when feeding and a lowering of water levels or an increase in water temperature causes large numbers of the invertebrates to diehttp://www.michigan.gov/dnr/0,1607,7-153-10370_12150_12220-26493--,00.html

I don't know if we created these conditions, as by global warming or otherwise.

 

[Donks]

Balancing the species & its numbers is also part of nature.

Hey Kumar, could look up the infant and child mortality rates for the unnatural modern world, then for the natural world of antiquity and tell me which one is better?

 

[Vikram]

Hey Kumar, could look up the infant and child mortality rates for the unnatural modern world, then for the natural world of antiquity and tell me which one is better?

Donks, it won't make any difference to Kumar. He will probably quote some scriptures that talk about utopian and disease-free epochs.

Either that or he'll talk about how infant and child mortality rates are not ABSOLUTE and ask you to stop TTTT.

 

[Donks]

Donks, it won't make any difference to Kumar. He will probably quote some scriptures that talk about utopian and disease-free epochs.

Either that or he'll talk about how infant and child mortality rates are not ABSOLUTE and ask you to stop TTTT.

Yeah, just wanted to point out what kind of world Kumar is actually advocating.

 

[Kumar]

Understand the nature, its balance, its laws, its surrvival of fittest to carry forward fittests, fruit trees just started fruits-how much unfit, these sheds.......Don't talk in self interest. Do you want all rats, pests shoud be survived & medicated to keep on growing.?

 

[Donks]

Understand the nature, its balance, its laws, its surrvival of fittest to carry forward fittests, fruit trees just started fruits-how much unfit, these sheds.......Don't talk in self interest. Do you want all rats, pests shoud be survived & medicated to keep on growing.?

Are you comparing children to rats? Which kids are "pests"? Whose babies should not be allowed to survive?

 

[MRC_Hans]

I just love to see Kumar spamming and derailing even fellow believers' threads. With friends like that ................


Hans

 

[Donks]

I just love to see Kumar spamming and derailing even fellow believers' threads. With friends like that ................


Hans

It's not like Dr. MAS was doing anything with the thread.

 

[Kumar]

In nature's balance, every fittest being & substance has right to exist in perfect harmony to each other. Rest other can be due to other considerations.

 

[Donks]

In nature's balance, every fittest being & substance has right to exist in perfect harmony to each other. Rest other can be due to other considerations.

What would you do to those humans you deem don't have a right to exist "in perfect harmony to each other"?

 

[Kumar]

To be maintained in your hospitals.

Interesting;

Anger and hostility correlate with the risk of heart disease.7 8 A preliminary study found a link between high homocysteine levels and hostility and repressed anger.9 While anger, hostility, high homocysteine, and heart disease all appear to be tied together, which of these is cause and which is effect remains somewhat unclear.....Fortunately, homocysteine levels can easily be reduced with safe and inexpensive B vitamin supplementation.
http://www.vitacost.com/science/hn/Concern/High_Homocysteine.htm

 

[Donks]

To be maintained in your hospitals.

Interesting;

And this relates to the current topic... how exactly?

 

[Mojo]

Maybe Kumar's real reason for advocating homeopathy (and the tissue salts thing) is because he knows they don't work. He seems to believe that people who get ill should have effective medicine withheld and be allowed to die to improve the species.

Is that it, Kumar?

 

[Darat]

Silica of course....

 

[andycal]

And this relates to the current topic... how exactly?

Actually Kumar's posts fit in quite nicely with how the thread has eventually spun out. The woo's have given up so have resorted to random trolling and nonsense.

I make two predictions:

a) The trolling will continue. Kumar et al are either laughing their socks off or they just get enough time out of their padded cells to type the odd derailing bit of rubbish.

b) When Dr. Mas eventually releases his 100 page work of art it will be in Urdu.