Rolfe
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Ah yes, thank you for the correction. More recent photographs of our friend, who seems to be somewhere in his thirties perhaps....TheBoyPaj said:
Rolfe.
What is paranormal in Homeopathy
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TheBoyPaj
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Rolfe
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It does kind of make you wonder what he's orbiting, doesn't it?
What a maroon.
Rolfe.
What a maroon.
Rolfe.
EHocking
Penultimate Amazing
Gents? Could we not do this?TheBoyPaj said:
"Dr."Mas is no more representative of the Pakistani education system that Roger Coghill is of Cambridge's.
His link states exactly what his PhDs are for - and they aren't medicine. For him to be "lecturing" the collective here on the subject is as laughable as Coghill's attempt to "educate" us on electromagnawhateveritwasheblatheredabout, true, but there is enough rubbish being posted by Dr.Mas to ridicule without going where the above comments appear to be going.
Yes now I must also admit..
I too am a fool !
DR MAS said he would answer my question.
I posted a simple one.. against all my better judgment.
I KNEW he would not respond.. yet I did it anyway.. why are we such fodder for this complete moron.
His blathering and inanity have reached new heights...
I implore the rest of you follow my lead and ignore this idiot (from now on).
Seriously you lose credibility by continuing to debate this cretin.
DR MAS.. you proved one thing to me (and all of us) you are just a lying quack.. dithering and prevaricating around any simple point anyone tries to make.
You must be having a temendous laugh at us.. although from your inane web site I can see you are probably serious.. which is good in one sense as we look LESS foolish for responding to you.
If only you were joking or deliberately trying to stuff up the forum it might have some point.. but no ,, pointless !
I too am a fool !
DR MAS said he would answer my question.
I posted a simple one.. against all my better judgment.
I KNEW he would not respond.. yet I did it anyway.. why are we such fodder for this complete moron.
His blathering and inanity have reached new heights...
I implore the rest of you follow my lead and ignore this idiot (from now on).
Seriously you lose credibility by continuing to debate this cretin.
DR MAS.. you proved one thing to me (and all of us) you are just a lying quack.. dithering and prevaricating around any simple point anyone tries to make.
You must be having a temendous laugh at us.. although from your inane web site I can see you are probably serious.. which is good in one sense as we look LESS foolish for responding to you.
If only you were joking or deliberately trying to stuff up the forum it might have some point.. but no ,, pointless !
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Hello everyone. I hope you don't mind that I join this thread towards, well, hopefully, it's end. I've been lurking since the beginning though, because I was excited about the possiblity that a real homeopath was going to give a clear explanation for why homeopathy actually works. I truly didn't know that much about it and was open to all arguments. (I've actually tried homeopathy at one time in my life. No, it didn't work.)
At this point, I get to thank Rolfe and all the other skeptics for doing what Dr. MAS seems to be completely unable to do: laying out a basic claim and providing evidence for it. I've learned a great amount from you, as I always do.
To Dr. MAS, you have certainly made a huge fool of yourself and made me a skeptic of your profession. What kind of teacher tells his "students", if that's what you think we are, that they are too stupid to grasp what is about to be taught? I have had the privilege of studying very difficult subjects with excellent teachers who were leaders in their fields. They were able to make the most complex ideas very simple and understandable to everyone, regardless of their prior educational experience.
If you are unable and unwilling to explain your ideas to everyone here, regardless of their educational backround, then either you have no idea what you're talking about or you're just a preening fool. (Not that they're mutually exclusive concepts.)
At this point, I get to thank Rolfe and all the other skeptics for doing what Dr. MAS seems to be completely unable to do: laying out a basic claim and providing evidence for it. I've learned a great amount from you, as I always do.
To Dr. MAS, you have certainly made a huge fool of yourself and made me a skeptic of your profession. What kind of teacher tells his "students", if that's what you think we are, that they are too stupid to grasp what is about to be taught? I have had the privilege of studying very difficult subjects with excellent teachers who were leaders in their fields. They were able to make the most complex ideas very simple and understandable to everyone, regardless of their prior educational experience.
If you are unable and unwilling to explain your ideas to everyone here, regardless of their educational backround, then either you have no idea what you're talking about or you're just a preening fool. (Not that they're mutually exclusive concepts.)
Well, I still want to hear Dr. MAS's explanation about the dilutions. Now that he knows he is addressing an educated audience, maybe he will explain his thinking on this topic.
I am wondering about his teaching style. Is this perhaps the way classes are conducted in his school?
typo corrected. Thanks, Soapy Sam.
(Anyway, maybe I wasn't including myself in the eddicated audience.)
I am wondering about his teaching style. Is this perhaps the way classes are conducted in his school?
typo corrected. Thanks, Soapy Sam.
(Anyway, maybe I wasn't including myself in the eddicated audience.)
My point was that Dr. MAS seems to think that the "healing" effect of the remedy is caused by actual molecules of the "active" ingredient. In which case it makes no sense to dilute more than a certain amount.
Rolfe has already come up with the idea that Dr. MAS might think that the "healing" power lies in the potential that there are active molecules in the remedy, and not the remedy itself. If this fantasy has any justification, then it could make sense to continue diluting long past Avogadro's limit.
Our minds need not boggle yet, however, because so far, it has never been proven that homoeopathic remedies have any effect at all.
Mojo
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He seems to be saying that there are, somehow, molecules of the "active" ingredient still present, even beyond Avogadro's limit.steenkh said:
He tries to claim (I think) that Avogadro's law somehow doesn't apply:
and:
He also claims, as far as I can make out, that molecules of the "active" ingredient are still present because they have been broken down into smaller molecules:
Then, of course, he claims that the remedy has not been diluted after all...
OK, his ability to post these opinions in different sizes and colours gives his argument a certain distinctive quality, but he frankly seems to be even further divorced from reality than Kumar.
Maybe, during the potentization process, the active ingredient molecule starts feeling very lonely, and when the 10th part is taken out in order to perform the next dilution, the molecule decides to become more potent and rushes to the pipette in order not to be chucked out with the 9/10 of the solution?Mojo said:
Enough jokes! We must see if Dr. MAS has had enough or if he will come back to claim again that we are too uneducated to understand his extremely complicated logic.
Mojo said:
No, he is much more qualified/experianced/dynamic/bold/inteligent/clever than me. Moreover, he is also a good hearted, spritual & helpful person. I think, he will show you, how molecules of active substance can be present in every potency--even above 12C or 24X. What he is knowing, can be there as a clue in my other language.
steenkh said:Maybe, during the potentization process, the active ingredient molecule starts feeling very lonely, and when the 10th part is taken out in order to perform the next dilution, the molecule decides to become more potent and rushes to the pipette in order not to be chucked out with the 9/10 of the solution?
Enough jokes! We must see if Dr. MAS has had enough or if he will come back to claim again that we are too uneducated to understand his extremely complicated logic.
Somewhat alike.
Yes, molecules can be present. It is a definite possibility, if some were there when you started diluting some might be there when you finish diluting. But if you dilute enough, that possibility becomes smaller, and smaller. It's certainly possible that there is one molecule of the remedy in a 100C dilution, but it certainly isn't probable. And if there is one molecule, it's not going to do a damn thing.Kumar said:No, he is much more qualified/experianced/dynamic/bold/inteligent/clever than me. Moreover, he is also a good hearted, spritual & helpful person. I think, he will show you, how molecules of active substance can be present in every potency--even above 12C or 24X. What he is knowing, can be there as a clue in my other language.