Merged Two Mosques to be built near Ground Zero

[DC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharia

i hope it cleared up some of your prejudices, did you completely read it?
do you now still claim thats what all muslims want? or do you now admit that this is not the case?

 

[Chaos]

The silence from so-called moderates against such behavior in their religion is deafening.

The silence of bigotted islamophobes when faced with questions they do not want to answer is likewise deafening.

When will you adress my questions?

When will you adress the criticism of your "sources" about Islam?

 

[ddt]

All who are defending islam!

That statement captures in a nutshell the equivocation you're committing and basing your whole argument in this thread on. You pick out something (something bad, of course) that's done in the name of Islam and extend it to the whole of Islam - hell, even to those who are trying to educate you on that the truth is a lot less black-and-white.

 

[GreNME]

The silence from so-called moderates against such behavior in their religion is deafening.

And your intellectual dishonesty is astounding, considering the fact that Muslims have spoken out over and over and over.

You keep throwing out ridiculously inaccurate statements as if they were fact, very similar to Truther nonsense about "freefall speeds" and "Bush ran security at WTC" claims.

Care to actually back up any of your accusations, amb?

 

[DC]

amb will not be convinced, he is a true believer, he really believes the nonsense he writes. and no amount of reality will convince him otherwise.

 

[Serafim Svensson]

have you ever looked for such voiced? for example, by tipping, Muslim against Sharia into your Google? i bet not.

I'm not sure MAS is a good example. The fact that Pamela Geller is a member makes a lot of people doubt that they are actually Muslims. See, e.g., http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/09/24/non-muslims-against-sharia/

I agree with your general point, though. There are many moderate Muslims in the world.

 

[DC]

I'm not sure MAS is a good example. The fact that Pamela Geller is a member makes a lot of people doubt that they are actually Muslims. See, e.g., http://freethinker.co.uk/2007/09/24/non-muslims-against-sharia/

I agree with your general point, though. There are many moderate Muslims in the world.

oh thanks, didnt know that, a bit strange it is. Dunno what to think about the interview the guy gave later (was a link in your link).

not a to trustworthy source it seems, thanks for pointing it out.

http://www.allamericanblogger.com/1...-massoud-of-muslims-against-sharia/#more-1090

 

[Serafim Svensson]

Dunno what to think about the interview the guy gave later.

Neither do I. But it seems I was wrong about Geller being a member. So thanks for pointing that out (indirectly, by posting the link)

From the interview:

Our membership is limited to Muslims only, but we would be happy to work with anyone who agrees with our goals. Pamela Geller is a contributor to our blog, not a member of our group.

I also found this interesting

That proves our theory that most moderate Muslims have to work for a living, but many radical Muslims are financed by oil revenues and spend all their time trolling the Internet.

There could be some truth in that.

 

[thaiboxerken]

The silence from so-called moderates against such behavior in their religion is deafening.

Yet, when an IMAM like Rauf tries to build a center to that, you protest it.....

 

[quadraginta]

Yet, when an IMAM like Rauf tries to build a center to that, you protest it.....

You see, you can tell if they're moderates because they aren't doing anything.

If they're doing something they must not be moderates, so they have to be radicals.

al Qaeda!!!

QED

 

[GreNME]

Yet, when an IMAM like Rauf tries to build a center to that, you protest it.....

That's the lovely catch-22 that bigots like to have: claim up and down that the group they hate is evil and not speaking out against evil, then doing everything they can to block that same group from taking part in any constructive activities or conversation.

 

[amb]

That statement captures in a nutshell the equivocation you're committing and basing your whole argument in this thread on. You pick out something (something bad, of course) that's done in the name of Islam and extend it to the whole of Islam - hell, even to those who are trying to educate you on that the truth is a lot less black-and-white.

It seems I'm in good company............

http://communities.washingtontimes..../17/imam-rauf-obama-and-why-left-resents-911/

 

[amb]

What islam is not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E

 

[Chaos]

What islam is not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E

So, any chance of you seriously considering any information about islam that does not confirm your bigotry?

 

[amb]

Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers please.

What, no comment on the video ?

 

[PS13]

Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers please.

What, no comment on the video ?

The video is pure garbage. 100% nazi like propaganda crap that lacks substance.

As for you meeting "gentle" muslims... I don't think you'd allow yourself to actually think of any muslim as "gentle". I think in your mind they are all terrorists. It seems to me, by following this thread and reading your posts, that you want all muslims to be evil extremists.

 

[DC]

Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers please.

What, no comment on the video ?

When you are in Switzerland, PM me, i can make you meet some Muslims i know.

 

[Chaos]

Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers please.

What, no comment on the video ?

If you want to ignore anything that might possibly show that your bigotry is unfounded by evidence, I cannot help you. It is not my job to spoon-feed you with something you don´t want to eat.

Exhibit #1: your refusal to to learn enough about islam to realize that there is no such thing as an "inman"
Exhibit #2: your refusal to respond to the criticism of your "sources" on islam

 

[thaiboxerken]

Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers

Well there is this guy, in New York, that is building an Islamic Center with the goal of promoting a gentle, moderate Islam and a message of peace and tolerance.....

 

[ddt]

It seems I'm in good company............

http://communities.washingtontimes..../17/imam-rauf-obama-and-why-left-resents-911/

Of liars? From that article:

Where is the outpouring of grief and outrage from the Muslim world? We've been waiting about nine years for it.

He seems to have missed quite a lot. Just look for the quotes other posters gave in this and other threads.

What islam is not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E

Wow, suddenly Fitna looks like a very moderate movie.

I've never heard of Muslims over here demanding Sharia courts. The movie claims they have. So, can you provide evidence for Dutch Muslims demanding Sharia courts?

The part about Halal food is especially laughable. Supermarkets selling Halal food because of pressure? Apparently, they've never heard of this thing called "demand" and how companies react to it. And then the movie claims that it adds to employment for Muslims-only. Wow, how idiotic can you get? A handful of Muslims who oversee all slaughter that is carried out according to Islamic rules? That's what they get riled up about? Not to mention that Halal food is also sold by special Muslim butchers, so where's the increase in employment anyway?