Merged Two Mosques to be built near Ground Zero

amb said:
What islam is not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEXWjlgJ83E
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killing animals according Jewish and Islamic tradition is not allowed for mammals, only for Poultry. You are allowed to import it however.

the usage of Switzerland in that propaganda video is extremely laughable, as they do not gain rights here, they are loosing rights, other still have, simply because they are moslems.
 
amb said:
Perhaps when I meet a muslim that's not antisemitic and anti American. Let me know where I can meet such gentle muslim religion followers please.

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It is almost certain that you have met them already. At least if you interact with the rest of society to any normal degree. Whether you know it or not is irrelevant, and whether you believe it or not is, too.
 
ddt said:
The part about Halal food is especially laughable. Supermarkets selling Halal food because of pressure? Apparently, they've never heard of this thing called "demand" and how companies react to it. And then the movie claims that it adds to employment for Muslims-only. Wow, how idiotic can you get? A handful of Muslims who oversee all slaughter that is carried out according to Islamic rules? That's what they get riled up about? Not to mention that Halal food is also sold by special Muslim butchers, so where's the increase in employment anyway?
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It's also almost word-for-word what anti-Semites say about the presence of kosher food items in grocery stores.
 
thaiboxerken said:
Well there is this guy, in New York, that is building an Islamic Center with the goal of promoting a gentle, moderate Islam and a message of peace and tolerance.....
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You poor deluded fool. Are you talking about Abdul Rauf ? The "gentle and peace loving sufi " ? Isn't this the same man who only 19 days after 9/11 was interviewed on 60 minutes when he called America an "accessory to the crime" and anounced that "Osama bin Laden is made in the USA "
Statements made by Rauf show he supports the destruction of Israel.
" My own personal analysis tells me that a one state solution is a more coherent one than a two-state solution," imam Rauf told an audience in July 2005. The phase " one state solution" is often used by islamic extremists to advocate the destruction of Israel, especially by those parading as moderates. It is said with the knowledge that any one-state solution would result in the Jews being outnumberd in their own land, replacing Israel with a muslim state called Palestine.
Is this the same man who involved himself with the muslim brotherhood, the parent organasation of Hamas that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel bringing the world under sharia law.
Is he also the same man who when the Iranian people rose up against the fraudulent re-election of Ahmadinejad, Rauf took the side of the regime ?
In doing so, he legitimizes the Iranian theocratic style of governance, firmly placing him in the opposite corner of moderates fighting such extremism.

Methinks you have not done your homework properly on our Mr Rauf.
 
ddt said:
Of liars? From that article:

He seems to have missed quite a lot. Just look for the quotes other posters gave in this and other threads.


Wow, suddenly Fitna looks like a very moderate movie. :rolleyes:
I've never heard of Muslims over here demanding Sharia courts. The movie claims they have. So, can you provide evidence for Dutch Muslims demanding Sharia courts?
The part about Halal food is especially laughable. Supermarkets selling Halal food because of pressure? Apparently, they've never heard of this thing called "demand" and how companies react to it. And then the movie claims that it adds to employment for Muslims-only. Wow, how idiotic can you get? A handful of Muslims who oversee all slaughter that is carried out according to Islamic rules? That's what they get riled up about? Not to mention that Halal food is also sold by special Muslim butchers, so where's the increase in employment anyway?
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This post seems to have slipped by amb's attention. Could you react, amb, especially to the highlighted part? Failure to provide the evidence is a tacit admission that you used liars as source.
 
The killing of livestock the halal way is not tolerated by the RSPCA in the Western world. It means slitting the throat and letting the animal bleed to death in an agonising way.
That's another point against islam. Cruelty to our fellow inhabitants of this planet.
 
amb said:
You poor deluded fool. Are you talking about Abdul Rauf ? The "gentle and peace loving sufi " ? Isn't this the same man who only 19 days after 9/11 was interviewed on 60 minutes when he called America an "accessory to the crime" and anounced that "Osama bin Laden is made in the USA "
Statements made by Rauf show he supports the destruction of Israel.
" My own personal analysis tells me that a one state solution is a more coherent one than a two-state solution," imam Rauf told an audience in July 2005. The phase " one state solution" is often used by islamic extremists to advocate the destruction of Israel, especially by those parading as moderates. It is said with the knowledge that any one-state solution would result in the Jews being outnumberd in their own land, replacing Israel with a muslim state called Palestine.
Is this the same man who involved himself with the muslim brotherhood, the parent organasation of Hamas that is dedicated to the destruction of Israel bringing the world under sharia law.
Is he also the same man who when the Iranian people rose up against the fraudulent re-election of Ahmadinejad, Rauf took the side of the regime ?
In doing so, he legitimizes the Iranian theocratic style of governance, firmly placing him in the opposite corner of moderates fighting such extremism.

Methinks you have not done your homework properly on our Mr Rauf.
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No comment on the falseness of the Video you linked too?
does it contradict your prejudice?

You spew one bigoted lie into the thread after the other. And you never react when it gets debunked.......
that is just disgusting.
 
amb said:
The killing of livestock the halal way is not tolerated by the RSPCA in the Western world. It means slitting the throat and letting the animal bleed to death in an agonising way.
That's another point against islam. Cruelty to our fellow inhabitants of this planet.
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:rolleyes:
 
I've never heard of Muslims over here demanding Sharia courts. The movie claims they have. So, can you provide evidence for Dutch Muslims demanding Sharia courts?
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As the film explains. It will be demanded as the muslim population increases up to 25% and over.
 
your propaganda video belongs into the CT section. thats stuff nutjobs believe.
 
Hello I have read a lot about islam let me educate you
*nothing but talking points and fearmongering vids*

How can you not be convinced?!
 
amb said:
The killing of livestock the halal way is not tolerated by the RSPCA in the Western world. It means slitting the throat and letting the animal bleed to death in an agonising way.
That's another point against islam. Cruelty to our fellow inhabitants of this planet.
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Odd. Kosher meat is slaughtered in an identical fashion, and yet you don't complain about the cruelty of the Jews.
 
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