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Trump's US Threat to Greenland (which belongs to Denmark)
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From last night:
PM Mette Frederiksen: We are in a difficult situation
She thinks that one should know that Trump's interest in Greenland doesn't go away. But that the Americans also are also well aware that Greenland is not for sale, and that the Greenlanders don't want to become Americans.
USA sponsorerer stadig hundeslædeløb trods aflysning (DR.dk, Mar 26, 2025 - CET 20:26)
The USA will still sponsor the dogsled race in spite of the cancellation [of Usha Vance's visit to Sisimiut]
It includes a short (39 sec.) video from Trump's press briefing yesterday:
From this morning:
A senior correspondent about the USA and security politics criticizes the Danish minister of foreign affairs, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, who talked about a de-escalation of the conflict yesterday:
- Maybe Løkke knows something I don't. He has a big apparatus of civil servants to back him up.
- But I don't think that you know the dynamics in the White House if you call what happened yesterday a de-escalation. It reminds of that time when Løkke returned from a holiday and said that there was no crisis, he says to DR Morning Radio P1.
Troels Lund: USA optrapper konflikten (DR.dk, Mar 27, 2025 - CET 9:43)
Troels Lund ( minister of defense): The USA is escalating the conflict
PM Mette Frederiksen: We are in a difficult situationShe thinks that one should know that Trump's interest in Greenland doesn't go away. But that the Americans also are also well aware that Greenland is not for sale, and that the Greenlanders don't want to become Americans.
USA sponsorerer stadig hundeslædeløb trods aflysning (DR.dk, Mar 26, 2025 - CET 20:26)
The USA will still sponsor the dogsled race in spite of the cancellation [of Usha Vance's visit to Sisimiut]
Greenland essential to the security of the USA and the world
It includes a short (39 sec.) video from Trump's press briefing yesterday:
From this morning:
A senior correspondent about the USA and security politics criticizes the Danish minister of foreign affairs, Lars Løkke Rasmussen, who talked about a de-escalation of the conflict yesterday:
'You know nothing about the dynamics in the White House if you call it a de-escalation'
- Maybe Løkke knows something I don't. He has a big apparatus of civil servants to back him up.
- But I don't think that you know the dynamics in the White House if you call what happened yesterday a de-escalation. It reminds of that time when Løkke returned from a holiday and said that there was no crisis, he says to DR Morning Radio P1.
Troels Lund: USA optrapper konflikten (DR.dk, Mar 27, 2025 - CET 9:43)
Troels Lund (
minister of defense): The USA is escalating the conflict There's something that I think I haven't mentioned. I read about it yesterday and forgot about it.
Jørgen Boassen (see post 430), the Greenlander who seems to have negotiated with the people responsible for the dogsled race, turns out to be a private contractor paid by Tom Dans, whose company, American Daybreak, appears to be the direct sponsor of the dogsled race.
It is unclear who pays Tom Dans and his company.
When Trump talks about what Greenlanders want, he is probably talking about Jørgen Boassen, while implying that Boassen represents the entire population of Greenland.
Jørgen Boassen (see post 430), the Greenlander who seems to have negotiated with the people responsible for the dogsled race, turns out to be a private contractor paid by Tom Dans, whose company, American Daybreak, appears to be the direct sponsor of the dogsled race.
It is unclear who pays Tom Dans and his company.
When Trump talks about what Greenlanders want, he is probably talking about Jørgen Boassen, while implying that Boassen represents the entire population of Greenland.
On Danish TV tonight (at 20:00 CET):
"Denmark has to let us have Greenland," is what Trump has been repeating this week when vice president Vance and his wife are going to Greenland. The Danish government response is that it is "too weird" and "a veiled threat."
Is the USA still an ally, or is that no longer the case? Does the Kingdom stand united against the USA?
The Debate: Is Trump Threatening the Kingdom?
"Denmark has to let us have Greenland," is what Trump has been repeating this week when vice president Vance and his wife are going to Greenland. The Danish government response is that it is "too weird" and "a veiled threat."
Is the USA still an ally, or is that no longer the case? Does the Kingdom stand united against the USA?
25 minutes ago:
- There are probably people in the US who are beginning to see that the narrative about the population of Greenland embracing the USA and desiring to become Americans is false. And it's good so.
- We don't recognize the picture that we see in some parts of the American political establishment, i.e. that Greenland is a place full of Chinese investments. As far as I know, there aren't any, says Løkke.
He is also asked about why the American vicepresident will not be received by Danish politicians tomorrow at Pituffik Space Base.
- This is an American vicepresident visiting his own military installation in Greenland. It hasn't really got anything to do with us.
- It is good if people visit places, are briefed and get wiser. I hope it will be a good briefing, because we also need the level of knowledge to increase in this case, says Løkke.
Løkke [Danish minister of foreign affairs] criticizes America's false narrative about Grenland
- There are probably people in the US who are beginning to see that the narrative about the population of Greenland embracing the USA and desiring to become Americans is false. And it's good so.
- We don't recognize the picture that we see in some parts of the American political establishment, i.e. that Greenland is a place full of Chinese investments. As far as I know, there aren't any, says Løkke.
He is also asked about why the American vicepresident will not be received by Danish politicians tomorrow at Pituffik Space Base.
- This is an American vicepresident visiting his own military installation in Greenland. It hasn't really got anything to do with us.
- It is good if people visit places, are briefed and get wiser. I hope it will be a good briefing, because we also need the level of knowledge to increase in this case, says Løkke.
Trump is quoted in this MSNBC video:
Trump: "I don't know. I don't think they're uneager, eager, but I think that we have to do it, and we have to convince them, and we have to have that land, because it's not possible to properly defend a large section of this earth, not the, not just the United States, without it. So we have to have it. And I think we will have it."
The rest of the video is Rufus Gifford's reaction to the quotation. Rufus Gifford was appointed by Obama as at the U.S ambassador to Denmark.
This French video mentions the 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash (Wikipedia):
0:20--> Here he [Trump] was just yesterday when he was asked if the people of Greenland wanted to be U.S. citizens. Watch.
Trump: "I don't know. I don't think they're uneager, eager, but I think that we have to do it, and we have to convince them, and we have to have that land, because it's not possible to properly defend a large section of this earth, not the, not just the United States, without it. So we have to have it. And I think we will have it."
The rest of the video is Rufus Gifford's reaction to the quotation. Rufus Gifford was appointed by Obama as at the U.S ambassador to Denmark.
This French video mentions the 1968 Thule Air Base B-52 crash (Wikipedia):
This is the first time I see the reference to Saddam Hussein and Kuwait in this context.
ponderingturtle
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Reminds me more of Stalin and the winter war than Saddam and Kuwait
This video is great. It's the first time I see footage from one of the protests in Greenland - including sound! It doesn't matter that there are no subtitles and I understand Greenlandic as little as Americans do:
Danish reporter Jesper Steinmetz (at 1:24-->):
"It is an expression of the fact that the Americans finally realized what the reality was. Namely, that if they had come here toNuke--> Nuuk as planned tomorrow, they would have been met with riots, demonstrations and a massive police presence simply to ensure their own safety. They realized that they were not wanted here.
American representatives have been going around practically knocking on one door after another in the past few days to ask if they would like to be visited by the vice president's wife. And everywhere, the answer was the same:"No. Otherwise, thank you." And that's why the plans have been changed."
Jesper Steinmetz was dubbed from Danish into English, and since this is the second time this particular error occurs, let me explain in more detail:
It is an attempt to translate from Danish: Nej, ellers tak. In Danish, a simple "No" when somebody offers you something is considered to be impolite. We learn as children to say: Nej tak! = No, thanks = No, but thank you for offering me (whatever).
The addition of the word ellers, which in other contexts may mean otherwise --> Nej, ellers tak! means that we vehemently refuse to accept what is being offered: No, you can take your .... and stuff it!
I am not surprised that this idiomatic difference is lost in translation.
Danish reporter Jesper Steinmetz (at 1:24-->):
"It is an expression of the fact that the Americans finally realized what the reality was. Namely, that if they had come here to
American representatives have been going around practically knocking on one door after another in the past few days to ask if they would like to be visited by the vice president's wife. And everywhere, the answer was the same:
Jesper Steinmetz was dubbed from Danish into English, and since this is the second time this particular error occurs, let me explain in more detail:
It is an attempt to translate from Danish: Nej, ellers tak. In Danish, a simple "No" when somebody offers you something is considered to be impolite. We learn as children to say: Nej tak! = No, thanks = No, but thank you for offering me (whatever).
The addition of the word ellers, which in other contexts may mean otherwise --> Nej, ellers tak! means that we vehemently refuse to accept what is being offered: No, you can take your .... and stuff it!
I am not surprised that this idiomatic difference is lost in translation.
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arthwollipot
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"Nuke"? You mean Nuuk. 
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Usha apparently also wanted to visit the Nuuk art museum, but it fell through.
Salient points
- they (us representives) wanted it closed for the public during the visit, which was out of the question
- they announced the visit for the public while the museum was still considering
- the museum director had appointments away from the museum the day of the visit, and their budget is 1.5 mio Dkr, so probably only 1-2 other employees.
- worries about political undertones
- in Nuuk there a not a lot of alternatives when you want some cultural photo op
nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.goog
Salient points
- they (us representives) wanted it closed for the public during the visit, which was out of the question
- they announced the visit for the public while the museum was still considering
- the museum director had appointments away from the museum the day of the visit, and their budget is 1.5 mio Dkr, so probably only 1-2 other employees.
- worries about political undertones
- in Nuuk there a not a lot of alternatives when you want some cultural photo op
Museum sagde nej til vicepræsidentfruen – kalder det ”et kæmpe pres”
Den amerikanske delegation ville tilsyneladende gerne have besøgt Nuuk Kunstmuseum, men planerne blev droppet.
nyheder-tv2-dk.translate.goog
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Greenland forms new unity government on eve of JD Vance visit
Four of the five parties elected to Greenland’s parliament two weeks ago have agreed to band together in a broad coalition.
www.politico.eu
Four of the five parties elected to Greenland’s parliament two weeks ago have agreed to band together in a broad coalition.
Greenland forms new unity government on eve of JD Vance visit
Four of the five parties elected to Greenland’s parliament two weeks ago have agreed to band together in a broad coalition.
www.politico.eu
Ukraine?
Thermal
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Putting the screws pretty good to the States themselves, come to that.