Trump's Second Term

arthwollipot said:
We hate your beef because you've had Mad Cow Disease.
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Minor correction, as some one who worked in a butcher shop when the 1990's BSE cases broke out, it was beef from the UK that was contaminated:
en.wikipedia.org

Mad cow crisis - Wikipedia

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"Bovine spongiform encephalopathy first appeared in the UK in November 1986, when the British Central Veterinary Laboratory discovered a cow with atypical neurological symptoms on a farm in Surrey."

"The disease was exported from Great Britain from 1989 onwards, when 15 cases occurred in Ireland. Between 1989 and 2004, a total of 4,950 cases were reported outside Great Britain, mainly in continental Europe:

Israel (one case in 2002)
Canada (four cases, including one in 1993, two in 2003 and one in 2007)
Japan (13 cases between 2002 and 2004)
the United States (two cases between 2004 and 2005, and one case in 2006)

Apart from Great Britain, the countries most affected are:

Ireland (1,488 cases)
Portugal (954 cases)
France (951 cases)
Spain (538 cases)
Switzerland (457 cases)
Germany (369 cases)"
 
a_unique_person said:
Why does Trump hate penguins?



That's what I like about Trump. He's a detail man.

www.theguardian.com

Trump imposes tariffs on uninhabited Heard and McDonald Islands near Antarctica

Australian prime minister surprised after remote external territories – including islands home to penguins – targeted by US president
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I bet the Heard Island electrical manufacturing industry is furious!

That, or some canny US importer claimed his goods came from tariff-free Heard Island and nobody checked. So the Trump team are the second load of dimwits w.r.t. this.
 
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Olmstead said:
Isn't exporting and importing beef of all things over the Atlantic a bit of a strange idea anyway? Maybe I'm missing something.
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Looks like most of it goes across the Pacific. The opening statement was already a warning. How bad will the drop be this time come 2026?

U.S. beef exports for the first ten months of 2024 totaled 2.49 billion pounds, representing a 2.61% decline from the 2.56 billion pounds recorded during the same period in 2023.​


www.nationalbeefwire.com

U.S. Beef Exports By Country

www.nationalbeefwire.com



Also, today I learned that there is a web site called national beef wire, weird.
 
azazal said:
Looks like most of it goes across the Pacific. The opening statement was already a warning. How bad will the drop be this time come 2026?

U.S. beef exports for the first ten months of 2024 totaled 2.49 billion pounds, representing a 2.61% decline from the 2.56 billion pounds recorded during the same period in 2023.​


www.nationalbeefwire.com

U.S. Beef Exports By Country

www.nationalbeefwire.com



Also, today I learned that there is a web site called national beef wire, weird.
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Interesting, I've also found out that the the greatest overseas beef exporter to Europe seems to be Australia.

And that the EU doesn't approve of America's lack in health standards when it comes to meat.
 
Andy_Ross said:
From reducing everyone’s bills greatly and immediately to paying more for eggs is the patriotic thing to do and it's not Donald's fault anyway.

Harris Faulkner on how Trump should talk to "401k people" worried about tariffs hurting them: "Look, when this nation used to go to war, people in this country would support the war effort with their materials at home and making things for weaponry. We have to do 100% buy in over this bumpy period."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1907113484002656340
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That's the thing.

I think they are implementing the economic vandalism too soon. They should have waited until they had more control over the electoral process, but now, even Magats can see an instant 20¢ increase in the price of a gallon of fuel ,which was reported earlier, (in this thread, I think). As well as the other instant price rises that are coming.
 
Olmstead said:
Interesting, I've also found out that the the greatest overseas beef exporter to Europe seems to be Australia.

And that the EU doesn't approve of America's lack in health standards when it comes to meat.
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IIRC US beef doesn't meet EU food standards because of the amount of hormones that have been pumped into it, and US chicken doesn't meet EU food standards because it's washed in chlorine rather than properly cleaned.
 
Olmstead said:
Interesting, I've also found out that the the greatest overseas beef exporter to Europe seems to be Australia.

And that the EU doesn't approve of America's lack in health standards when it comes to meat.
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Hormones.

Beef hormone controversy - Wikipedia

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Talking apples and oranges: The EU and the USA continue to struggle over exports of US hormone-treated beef to Europe - PMC

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That is why American Beef is so strong, Beef on steroids (insert favourite pic here).
 
There is one US export no other country is going to slap tariffs on - blood.
It's a top ten US export, and half of all blood products on the global market come from the US

So do your patriotic duty and bleed.
 
azazal said:
the United States (two cases between 2004 and 2005, and one case in 2006)
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Reason enough not to import beef from there.

Olmstead said:
Interesting, I've also found out that the the greatest overseas beef exporter to Europe seems to be Australia.
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That's because we have never had BSE (aka Mad Cow) because our biosecurity is uncompromised and we don't import beef from countries that have had it.

Trump is asking us to compromise our biosecurity. And the answer is no.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
It has tradition - the US killed over 8,000 Canadians with tainted blood they took from prison populations:

en.m.wikipedia.org

Royal Commission of Inquiry on the Blood System in Canada - Wikipedia

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In most countries, blood donation is a voluntary and altruistic activity. In the US, donations are paid for. You might think this is only fair, however the consequence is that the people who donate tend to be those desperate for money, often with drug habits or health conditions, and the general population tend not to take part, the reverse of the situation in, for example, the UK.
 
Pixel42 said:
IIRC US beef doesn't meet EU food standards because of the amount of hormones that have been pumped into it, and US chicken doesn't meet EU food standards because it's washed in chlorine rather than properly cleaned.
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As I understand it the issue isn't cleaning the chicken, it's that the sanitary standards in which the chickens are raised is poor leading to increased risk of salmonella in the meat and the chlorine rinse can mask it from testing.
 
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