Trump's promised ICE raids have begun

[Ziggurat]

Nope, still doesn't prove he was MS13. Just a lot of world salad with no proof.

I'm not sure why you're stuck on this question. Regardless of gang affiliation, he's a convicted murderer, so I'm not sure how much it even matters. But I'm willing to conclude that he's an MS-13 gang member, given that his defense counsel stated that he's an MS-13 gang member. Do you think his defense counsel lied?

 

[a_unique_person]

Since the focus of these raids is violent offenders and other bad actors that should have been detained and deported already, I'd actually expect the numbers to drop off, as this backlog gets cleared and other enforcement efforts start to take effect. And that suits me just fine.

Do you think they weren't being deported already, under Biden?

 

[Ziggurat]

Do you think they weren't being deported already, under Biden?

The ones being deported now obviously weren't deported under Biden.

 

[theprestige]

Do you think they weren't being deported already, under Biden?

That they weren't being deported is tautologically self-evident.

These are literally people who:

1. Weren't effectively detained on an ICE hold after being arrested for some criminal act;
2. Weren't picked up by ICE (due to the lack of ICE hold);
3. Weren't pursued by ICE.

That's why they're still in the country, and being deported now.

But okay, sure, have it your way: Biden was finding and deporting (some of) these folks. So what's your objection to Trump finding and deporting (some more of) these folks, with a focus on bad actors that somehow slipped through Biden's grasp?

 

[thaiboxerken]

Do you think they weren't being deported already, under Biden?

Do you think facts matter to Nazi supporters?

 

[theprestige]

Progressives on this forum: "Of course we're deporting these people!"

Also progressives on this forum: "Only a Nazi would deport these people!"

 

[thaiboxerken]

Which progressive said "only a Nazi would deport these people?"

 

[a_unique_person]

The ones being deported now obviously weren't deported under Biden.

And there ones deported were.

 

[Andy_Ross]

Mass arrests in nationwide US immigration crackdown

ICE arrests 956 migrants as part of Trump's immigration crackdown

There were raids in Miami, Chicago, Newark and New Jersey on Sunday in an operation involving several agencies.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[AmyStrange]

I'm not sure why you're stuck on this question. Regardless of gang affiliation, he's a convicted murderer, so I'm not sure how much it even matters. But I'm willing to conclude that he's an MS-13 gang member, given that his defense counsel stated that he's an MS-13 gang member. Do you think his defense counsel lied?

Actually, I'm more interested in how Homan knows which schools he's going to bust into and arrest 14 - 17-year-old MS-13 members without getting any kids killed. Do you know?

Until then, here's a thought, why not wait until the "suspects" leave the school and go home?


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[AmyStrange]

Since the focus of these raids is violent offenders and other bad actors that should have been detained and deported already, I'd actually expect the numbers to drop off, as this backlog gets cleared and other enforcement efforts start to take effect. And that suits me just fine.

He promised to deport ALL the illegal immigrants, but it doesn't look like that'll happen, so in conclusion (like this is a surprise): trump, what's his name, and Homan are liars.

So, the next time an illegal immigrant kills someone, can we blame trump for not keeping his campaign promise?

I don't know about you, but I know I am.


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[AmyStrange]

Do you think facts matter to Nazi supporters?

maga weirdoes can't handle the truth or facts. It's all about "owning" the libs.


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[AmyStrange]

That they weren't being deported is tautologically self-evident.

These are literally people who:

1. Weren't effectively detained on an ICE hold after being arrested for some criminal act;
2. Weren't picked up by ICE (due to the lack of ICE hold);
3. Weren't pursued by ICE.

That's why they're still in the country, and being deported now.

But okay, sure, have it your way: Biden was finding and deporting (some of) these folks. So what's your objection to Trump finding and deporting (some more of) these folks, with a focus on bad actors that somehow slipped through Biden's grasp?

Some of these "people" were let in by trump, so blaming only Biden is proof the maga weirdoes are stupid liars just like their fat-clown god.:

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Jan 27, 2025

MS-13 gang member attends Maryland High School as murder suspect, school not told

It took me a while, but I finally found out when this alleged MS-13 gang member came into the country, and if this article is right, it was during trump's last term:


'This could have been anyone's daughter': Mother suing DHS, HHS for $100M after MS-13 immigrant allegedly strangles daughter for $6
David Harris Jan 23rd, 2024, 4:15 pm

Officers from the Aberdeen Police Department in Maryland responded to a home around 5 p.m. on July 27, 2022, for a cardiac arrest. When they...

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[ponderingturtle]

It's all because the people who voted for Trump actually mainly care about the economy, and aren't racist transphobic evil pooheads (RTEP).

Then why did they vote for trump? I mean I guess they could be really in favor of tax hikes on the average American and tax cuts on the rich but why else would they vote for him? Are you suggesting they are that stupid that they don't know a thing about Trumps actual policies? Writing off half of americans as hopelessly stupid is a poor thing to do.

 

[ponderingturtle]

The people that got Trump over the line were the people who were just pissed at prices. That doesn't mean it's the majority of his voters.

Who are of course to stupid to understand how Tariffs work or what deporting all the agricultural workers would do to grocery prices. They deserve pity for being so stupid.

 

[Ziggurat]

Let's be honest;
Illegal Immigrants do a lot of the work "real Americans" refuse to do.

No. They do work at wages that "real Americans" refuse to work at. That's not the same thing at all. Given that these permissive immigration policies are advanced by the same people who push jacking up the minimum wage, there's more than a bit of irony there.

 

[johnny karate]

The ones being deported now obviously weren't deported under Biden.

Or under Trump during his first administration, as the example we've been discussing illustrates.

 

[ponderingturtle]

Some politicians have already said they want the bishop who spoke at Trump's inauguration to be deported. They see this method as a way of dealing with not just illegal immigrants but anybody who gets up their sensitive noses.

And they do not now the meaning of the words Deported vs Exiled.

 

[Ziggurat]

Or under Trump during his first administration, as the example we've been discussing illustrates.

Fair enough. Trump 2.0 is better than Trump 1.0.

 

[johnny karate]

That they weren't being deported is tautologically self-evident.

These are literally people who:

1. Weren't effectively detained on an ICE hold after being arrested for some criminal act;
2. Weren't picked up by ICE (due to the lack of ICE hold);
3. Weren't pursued by ICE.

That's why they're still in the country, and being deported now.

But okay, sure, have it your way: Biden was finding and deporting (some of) these folks. So what's your objection to Trump finding and deporting (some more of) these folks, with a focus on bad actors that somehow slipped through Biden's grasp?

I think the objections are a) the fantasy Trump supporters engage in that the deportation of criminals wasn't also happening under Biden and b) the extreme and illegal immigration policies Trump is enacting in support of this fantasy.