True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

[JonnyFive]

As signal approaches zero, noise approaches infinity.

Of course, if signal ever really did reach zero, you would be enveloped in a kind of fallacy singularity from which you could never return and that would quickly drive you mad.

I like to call that place "Hell."

By logical extension, DJJ is the devil, or at least a minor demon of some kind.

 

[Paulhoff]

By logical extension, DJJ is the devil, or at least a minor demon of some kind.

Very minor, and no room for growth, not I take that back, lots of room for growth but got lost somewhere along the way..........

Paul

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Of course, if signal ever really did reach zero, you would be enveloped in a kind of fallacy singularity from which you could never return and that would quickly drive you mad.

I like to call that place "Hell."

By logical extension, DJJ is the devil, or at least a minor demon of some kind.

Despite our speed, they were very slow in gaining prominence; hence we knew that they must be infinitely far off, and visible only because of their abnormal height. Little by little, however, they rose grimly into the western sky; allowing us to distinguish various bare, bleak, blackish summits, and to catch the curious sense of fantasy which they inspired as seen in the reddish antarctic light against the provocative background of iridescent ice-dust clouds. In the whole spectacle there was a persistent, pervasive hint of stupendous secrecy and potential revelation. It was as if these stark, nightmare spires marked the pylons of a frightful gateway into forbidden spheres of dream, and complex gulfs of remote time, space, and ultra-dimensionality. I could not help feeling that they were evil things - mountains of madness whose farther slopes looked out over some accursed ultimate abyss. That seething, half-luminous cloud background held ineffable suggestions of a vague, ethereal beyondness far more than terrestrially spatial, and gave appalling reminders of the utter remoteness, separateness, desolation, and aeon-long death of this untrodden and unfathomed austral world.

H.P. Lovecraft, At the Mountains of Madness

 

[chipmunk stew]

Of course, if signal ever really did reach zero, you would be enveloped in a kind of fallacy singularity from which you could never return and that would quickly drive you mad.

I like to call that place "Hell."

By logical extension, DJJ is the devil, or at least a minor demon of some kind.

Heh. That's why I've got ole Orthon on Ignore.

 

[JonnyFive]

Heh. That's why I've got ole Orthon on Ignore.

It's like looking at Medusa... you must avoid it to preserve your sanity.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Prove it yourselves are for people who just keep saying why not matter how much proof or evidence you give. You however think this just applies to anyone who asks you to prove anything. DJJ, you need to bask up what you say if you want others to believe you. Only if you back up to such a point where the other person is just asking "why" to annoy you, does your essay apply.

When you claim something, obviously people are going to ask you why, or to prove it. You can't immediately expect them to accept what you say, or prove it themselves. We cannot prove something, such as that book, without you giving us the name of the book, and some info about where it's taught etc. If you don't, then I'm sorry but it's impossible for us to prove. We will just continue to doubt what you say. This applies to basically everything you claim DJJ. You never give us proof, or evidence, even enough so that we can prove it ourselves!



Lee

In a true debate, a false skeptic can never win, because they are afraid to make a counter claim. They can NOT prove that there are no conspiracies, all they can do is say prove it prove it prove it, when they will deny every proof.

Hence false skeptics can never be ratiopnal and hence fal;se skeptics are trained how to counter accepting anything except government lies. They are totally accepting of every delusion presently them bnecause they are systemites and their bread is buttered by the system. they are extremely dangerous because they are the law and order citizens of the world who say that rights of the citizens have to be taken away for the sake of their law and order.... and no one should balk at giving all rights to BIG BROTHER..


(Poor Lee, he doesn;t know which side he is on, and yet tries to accuse... Poor Lee..... now he denies he is a conspiracy theorist and pretends to attack those that know there are conspiracies. Poooor Pooor Lee, he has comprimised, for the sake of peer prerssure, and so do all false skeptics as they so what to be one of the group and groupies. For they can not stand alone and need the support of their system congregation.)

(SEE churches are dangerous on the Religion Board)

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Of course, if signal ever really did reach zero, you would be enveloped in a kind of fallacy singularity from which you could never return and that would quickly drive you mad.

I like to call that place "Hell."

By logical extension, DJJ is the devil, or at least a minor demon of some kind.

Calling me a devil or demon is hardly a friendly discussion Johnny Five, and shows you have lost any rational debate and lost any of the norms of the rules HERE.

But if the moderators allow such vile name calling and slander, so be it. I reported you.

 

[Paulhoff]

First off DJJ, there is no so-called god and there is no so-called devil. The reference to you being a so-called devil is only that, a reference, to the idea of a so-called devil and only a joke. You are the only one DJJ that takes you seriously.

Paul

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

In a true debate, a false skeptic can never win, because they are afraid to make a counter claim. They can NOT prove that there are no conspiracies, all they can do is say prove it prove it prove it, when they will deny every proof.

Hence false skeptics can never be ratiopnal and hence fal;se skeptics are trained how to counter accepting anything except government lies. They are totally accepting of every delusion presently them bnecause they are systemites and their bread is buttered by the system. they are extremely dangerous because they are the law and order citizens of the world who say that rights of the citizens have to be taken away for the sake of their law and order.... and no one should balk at giving all rights to BIG BROTHER..


(Poor Lee, he doesn;t know which side he is on, and yet tries to accuse... Poor Lee..... now he denies he is a conspiracy theorist and pretends to attack those that know there are conspiracies. Poooor Pooor Lee, he has comprimised, for the sake of peer prerssure, and so do all false skeptics as they so what to be one of the group and groupies. For they can not stand alone and need the support of their system congregation.)

(SEE churches are dangerous on the Religion Board)

EXCELLENT! You have provided a clear definition of what a "false skeptic" is in comparison to a "true skeptic." That being the case, I should like to challenge you to a "true debate". My claims is this:
There is a fire breathing dragon in my garage.

 

[pandamonk]

In a true debate, a false skeptic can never win, because they are afraid to make a counter claim. They can NOT prove that there are no conspiracies, all they can do is say prove it prove it prove it, when they will deny every proof.

Hence false skeptics can never be ratiopnal and hence fal;se skeptics are trained how to counter accepting anything except government lies. They are totally accepting of every delusion presently them bnecause they are systemites and their bread is buttered by the system. they are extremely dangerous because they are the law and order citizens of the world who say that rights of the citizens have to be taken away for the sake of their law and order.... and no one should balk at giving all rights to BIG BROTHER..


(Poor Lee, he doesn;t know which side he is on, and yet tries to accuse... Poor Lee..... now he denies he is a conspiracy theorist and pretends to attack those that know there are conspiracies. Poooor Pooor Lee, he has comprimised, for the sake of peer prerssure, and so do all false skeptics as they so what to be one of the group and groupies. For they can not stand alone and need the support of their system congregation.)

(SEE churches are dangerous on the Religion Board)

But you see DJJ, everyone here makes counter claims towards you, and yet you call them false skeptics. I'm sure people here could certainly attempt to prove the conspiracies wrong. Isn't there a conspiracy theory that the trade towers were lined with bombs or something, and that this, not the planes hitting, is what caused the towers to fall. Well one else refute of this claim is that no one saw these bombs, etc. I remember a fe wof the "false skeptics" saying that earlier, and as proof goes, i think that's some of the best there is.

The thing is, you on the other hand have never provided any evidence opposing this. You haven't provided proof that the towers were demolished and not fell by themselves. The winning position in this debate, seeing as you have no put forth your position, is the non conspiracy, or "false skeptics". It does not mean that they are right, it just means that they have won this debate.

Now you're just building a strawman with your bit about false skeptics being "trained how to counter accepting anything except government lies". You need to stop this stawman building, you're gonna run out of straw soon.

Poor me, no poor DJJ, stuck in a bed 24/7 with nothing but his mind and a computer. Poor DJJ.

I don't need to read your thread on the religion board to know how dangerous churches and governments can be.

You makee it seem as though i need to be taught all this, but what you don't realise is that i actually know all this, and am probably more against churches and governments than you. However against governments i don't have much info with which to debate. Churches, or religion as a whole, on the other hand, i could debate all day about.

Lee

 

[pandamonk]

Calling me a devil or demon is hardly a friendly discussion Johnny Five, and shows you have lost any rational debate and lost any of the norms of the rules HERE.

But if the moderators allow such vile name calling and slander, so be it. I reported you.

Calling everyone here a false skeptic or atheist is hardly a friendly discussion DJJ, and shows you have lost any rational debate and lost any of the norms of the rules HERE.

But if the moderators allow such vile name calling and slander, so be it. I may report you

 

[pandamonk]

EXCELLENT! You have provided a clear definition of what a "false skeptic" is in comparison to a "true skeptic." That being the case, I should like to challenge you to a "true debate". My claims is this:
There is a fire breathing dragon in my garage.

Is it visible or invisible? Natural or supernatural?

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Panda, the great compromiser as you have to stop being a conspiracy theorist to join ranks and cat calls with your congrergational athiests.
Shameful, gutless... but that's your choice as onbviously your girl friend has seen through to your true characher, and wants no part of you. Good for her and her spiritual insight to see thru to your characher...a compromiser and a believer in nothing

Do not use personal attacks and insults.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[JimBenArm]

Panda, the great compromiser as you have to stop being a conspiracy theorist to join ranks and cat calls with your congrergational athiests.
Shameful, gutless... but that's your choice as onbviously your girl friend has seen through to your true characher, and wants no part of you. Good for her and her spiritual insight to see thru to your characher...a compromiser and a believer in nothing

Hey, good to see you back again. So, you still trying to play that "holier than thou" crap here? Amazing! We all know you're a fraud, so why you still playing this game? It's pretty pathetic, posting in barely intelligible syntax, with wording right out of the second grade, that you actually think you, a false prophet, spreading your lies to the world, can lecture us on, well, anything!
Just confess, get the burden off your soul, be a man for one time in your life. You can do it. Don't run and hide like a girlie boy again!

Sincerely;
Your Conscience

 

[hellaeon]

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DJJ, your wrong. I dont believe anything you say

Thankyou for your time.

Hellaeon

 

[Davidjayjordan]

I don't feel the need to start a thread in here. I have nothing i really wish to discuss just now.

I don't need to stand up against people in these forums. I agree with them on a lot of thing, and the things i don't, don't matter much.

Atheists don't make up their own gods, that's pagans. Atheists don't believe or need any god.

I think the only mixed up person here is you DJJ.

Don't you dare insult my courage! I am more courageous than you'll ever be.

Lee

Lee you are petrified of these people because you want to remain in their group and so because you lack courage and conviction, you suppress your true thoughts and opinions for supposed advantage. Your silence shows you have no courage or backbone.

Youre a groupie, Lee. You are churchy to the hilt and love the god of your own making. And love being in the congregation of those that think they are gods.

Very very poor choice Lee, as you are getting worse and worse and worse with time and with the hardening of your heart. I told you this would happen to you, as you have to keep rejecting the Lord and His TRUTH. No wonder yuor girlfriend has rejected you. She must see your lack of courage and principles.

Stop personalizing the argument.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[Davidjayjordan]

DJJ, your wrong. I dont believe anything you say

Thankyou for your time.

Hellaeon

You're welcome, Hellaeon....

Anytime you feel the need to discuss truths and get yourself together, do return or write me. Usually I am there. Hope you make it.

 

[gumboot]

Frankly, if any of that religious stuff is true, and there really is a heaven and hell, based on what goes for "sin", and based on what goes for "holiness", and based on the fact that hell = no God, if I was given a choice I'd choose hell.

So I figure, whether they're right or not, I win either way...

-Gumboot

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

EXCELLENT! You have provided a clear definition of what a "false skeptic" is in comparison to a "true skeptic." That being the case, I should like to challenge you to a "true debate". My claims is this:
There is a fire breathing dragon in my garage.

Since DJJ is back to posting in this thread, perhaps my proposal can move forward.

 

[pandamonk]

Panda, the great compromiser as you have to stop being a conspiracy theorist to join ranks and cat calls with your congrergational athiests.
Shameful, gutless... but that's your choice as onbviously your girl friend has seen through to your true characher, and wants no part of you. Good for her and her spiritual insight to see thru to your characher...a compromiser and a believer in nothing

Do not use personal attacks and insults.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

To be a conspiracy theorist you need to know the conspiracy theories. I on the other hand don't know any, and distrust the government for my own reasons. I am a good compromiser, but in life you need to be sometimes. Again I'm not joining these guys, and they are not atheists.

My girlfriend still loves me and stays with me, and her reasons for not having sex are "because the bible says so", nothing to do with me.

Lee