True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

Paulhoff said:
Isn’t it funny that those who beat the morality drum the loudest usually have the most to hide.

Paul

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DJJ just go away before even more of the real you comes out, we don't need to see it.
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Yeah, I hope it's the last I'll see of you, because the first of you turns my stomach!
 
Hokulele said:
Mr. D, why do you keep posting these links, and why do I keep clicking? At least this was better than the last bunch. :rolleyes:
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After DJJ's rather paranoid public meltdown about privacy and public information, I just thought it'd be an interesting exercise to point out to him exactly how much information about himself he's put out there for google to find.

(BTW: Is your avatar a pic of you biking on 'one local-kine' trail?)
 
Davidjayjordan said:
But do notice Panda, a true skeptic against conspiracies can no longer POST on this thread because he wants to remain in the group of groupies called athiests.

But real individuals agree regardless of a grouping in other areas. They do not have to follow peer pressure and deny everything just because their group does. they discern individual issues OBJECTIVELY and decide with courage and guts. False skeptics just go with the flow of their group or mob.

Well spoken Pagan !!!!!!

But most likely they were so foolish and so irrational you gave up trying to convince them of any truths.

They have eyes to see, but see not


(not all but most)
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Hah, I can and do still post here DJJ. I make it known that i don't trust the governments. I don't care if others don't agree with me, it's what I believe. Not all the people here are atheists, so you are false in saying that i cannot post 'cause i wanna remain grouped with the people here, called atheists. Atheists are people who don't not believe that a god exists. Many people here do believe in a god and yet believe governments, many are atheist and don't.

Stop grouping those who don't believe what you do as atheists. I am an atheist, but it is not because i beleive the governments. As you have seen, i don't. Others do believe the governments but are theist. Your claim is false.

Lee
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Panda as a brit, I thought you knew and belived that your government and the US government were liars and had conspired together in 9/11 and these wars.

Panda, please state your position.

For I thought you were a conspiracy advocate theorist, and now you seem to have lost your conviction when among those that deny conspiracies.

Please read how HERE, the vast majority hoot and holler and mock anyone that sees thru the lies of these governments.

Panda, are you losing it, or just losing your courage when among such opposition to truth.
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I do believe that the British and US governments lie to us. This is my position. What i was speaking out against toward you, was your definition of a skeptic. Someone isn't a skeptic just because they disbelieve what the governments, etc, say. People are skeptics when they don't accept what anyone(except people they know through experience they can trust) says without proof or evidence. This is what you are wrong about.

Also you are wrong to think people will believ you about this book in Canadian schools, without evidence.

I could go on...

Lee
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Welcome to the discernment between true skepticism and false skepticism...Miles.

For the damnable church is just like the damnable governments because they are in bed together and both are into power and control. SEE Religion Board concerning CHURCHES are DANGEROUS.

But what I am getting at with Panda, is that even though he opposes me on sexuality and Christianity, I would totally back him up if he had the balls to state his true convictions about the conspiracies of Britiasn and America.

But because of group pressure here among non thinking athiest a thinking athiest like Panda when it comes to conspiracies, will be silenced and intimidated into NOT POSTING.

Panda is in deep trouble with his honesty and conviction....and hence is shocked that avowed supposed intelligent athiests would not be able to see the blatant conspiracies being done in the name of the giovernment. I mean it is as obvious as the blatant SINS of the worldly church.

So you see panda is in a skeptic bind, between true skepticism and becoming a false skeptic just to save face among his religious peer group of athiests.

Panda surely doesn;t know what to do... unless he denies all conspiracies and becomes an anti-conspiracist theorist

an ACT , put on an ACT
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Like I've said before. I really don't know enough about government conspiracies to debate them. I have an opinion based on a movie "Fahrenheit 911" and a couple of other places, but it's really not much. I don't feel pressured into silence, as you should see in my other posts.

And with sexuality, I am in agreement with you over what the Bible says on the subject, do you not see this? The only thing we disagree on, is God existence(Christianity i suppose), and whether a person who doesn't believe the message behind a book(the Bible) should have an opinion of what a certain part means to a believer, ie just because i don't believe the message of the Bible, does not mean i cannot have an opinion on the correct way to read it, especially when I am caused a great deal of hurt due to the fact that my girlfriend read the Bible the way she has been taught by the church and not the way it was actually written. Should she not be skeptical of the church? Should i not help her to be? I will not try and convert her to atheism. That's really not what I want. All i want is for her to read and understand the bible correctly, and realise that God doesn't have a problem with sex.
 
JimBenArm said:
Yes, it's very interesting that a liar, coward, and adulterer would comment on someone else's morality, isn't it?
I think it's time Mr. DavidJayJordan climbed down off his high horse and admitted he's a fraud! Might as well admit it, the evidence is overwhelming, loser!

Later!
Your Conscience
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But he believes in the Bible, and the Bible clearly teaches that adultery is only when the wife sleeps with someone else against her husband's wishes. It is fine for the man to sleep around though. Infact he can have as many wives and concubines as he can afford. How loving...

Not nice, but true. Get yourself over to libchrist and libchrist forums.

Lee
 
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pandamonk said:
But he believes in the Bible, and the Bible clearly teaches that adultery is only when the wife sleeps with someone else against her husband's wishes. It is fine for the man to sleep around though. Infact he can have as many wives and concubines as he can afford. How loving...

Not nice, but true. Get yourself over to libchrist and libchrist forums.
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Ahhh, yes. Women are property, 'cause the Bible says so.

Quite frankly, if his sense of morality at this level comes from a translation of a two thousand year old holy book, I question DJJ's ability to make moral judgements at all.
 
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Mr.D said:
Ahhh, yes. Women are property, 'cause the Bible says so.

Quite frankly, if his sense of morality at this level comes from a translation of a two thousand year old holy book, I question DJJ's ability to make moral judgements at all.
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I agree. I don't understand how 1/4 of the worlds population's morality is based on the Bible. Thing is, most of them don't even know what it actually says, and just believe what the church teaches them.

One good thing about DJJ, is that he actually follows what the Bible says, and not some sugar coated version.

Lee
 
pandamonk said:
I agree. I don't understand how 1/4 of the worlds population's morality is based on the Bible. Thing is, most of them don't even know what it actually says, and just believe what the church teaches them.

One good thing about DJJ, is that he actually follows what the Bible says, and not some sugar coated version.

Lee
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I hope he doesn't have kids, or he might find himself charged with murder if they disobey him.
 
Brainache said:
I hope he doesn't have kids, or he might find himself charged with murder if they disobey him.
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I'm pretty sure he mentioned earlier in this thread that he does have kids. I seem to remember him saying something about that when he mentioned fleeing the "persecution" he was being subjected to when he opposed the use of that "suicide book" that can't be verified to even exist.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm pretty sure he mentioned earlier in this thread that he does have kids. I seem to remember him saying something about that when he mentioned fleeing the "persecution" he was being subjected to when he opposed the use of that "suicide book" that can't be verified to even exist.
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Yeah, that was part of the excuse he used for running and hiding.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm pretty sure he mentioned earlier in this thread that he does have kids. I seem to remember him saying something about that when he mentioned fleeing the "persecution" he was being subjected to when he opposed the use of that "suicide book" that can't be verified to even exist.
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Uh Oh. So maybe he keeps a supply of "Naughty Stones" handy, just to keep them in line.
 
pandamonk said:
Hah, I can and do still post here DJJ. I make it known that i don't trust the governments. ((But are petrified to start a THREAD about a truth))) I don't care if others don't agree with me, it's what I believe. ((But what you will not now stand up for in this hoistile envirorment because you want to stay in their group as a groupie))) Not all the people here are atheists, (((TRUE some are just false skeptics))) so you are false in saying that i cannot post 'cause i wanna remain grouped with the people here, called atheists. (((Or false skeptics, the majority are athiests not all))) Atheists are people who don't not believe that a god exists. (((And make up their own god))) Many people here do believe in a god and yet believe governments, many are atheist and don't. (((And the majority are mixed up, and yet sane discussions seldom go on because of foolishness and mockery and worse)))

Stop grouping those who don't believe what you do as atheists. I am an atheist, but it is not because i beleive the governments. (((Yes still hope for you ))) As you have seen, i don't. Others do believe the governments but are theist. Your claim is false. (((Your courage is lacking. But at least you are brave enough to stand up and say , you want sex and are sexual... Maybe there is some hope for you Panda...but not HERE... when you are so afraid)))



Lee
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The question is why are false skeptics so fearful, why do they accept and swallow without QUESTION exactly what is fed to them by their governments.

Hmmm the ANSWER can only be that they are AFRAID. They are ruled by fear, and know or have determined that the strongest worldly side is their government. hence they continue to wave their flags and [promote the religious nationalistic fervor of their country regardless of the atrocities they commit on other countries.

The false skeptics unlike their foolish postings probably do have a brain that could easily decipher through the lies given them to believe, but because their hearts are aligned to their jobs, their money, and their allegiances they absolutely refuse to believe the truths about their lying governments.

That's the only possible answer why false skeptics swallow all the lies of their lying governments. true skeptics see through the lies and find answers and have foundations. False skeptics have no basis for discernment except to believe more and more lies. They just don't have the courage to get out of their congregations of deceit.

Very very very very few ever make it out and get liberated....
 
Davidjayjordan said:
The question is why are false skeptics so fearful, why do they accept and swallow without QUESTION exactly what is fed to them by their governments.
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Strawman

Davidjayjordan said:
Hmmm the ANSWER can only be that they are AFRAID. They are ruled by fear, and know or have determined that the strongest worldly side is their government. hence they continue to wave their flags and [promote the religious nationalistic fervor of their country regardless of the atrocities they commit on other countries.
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Appeal to emotions.

Davidjayjordan said:
The false skeptics unlike their foolish postings probably do have a brain that could easily decipher through the lies given them to believe,
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No True Scotsman

Davidjayjordan said:
but because their hearts are aligned to their jobs, their money, and their allegiances they absolutely refuse to believe the truths about their lying governments.
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Poisoning the well.

Davidjayjordan said:
That's the only possible answer why false skeptics swallow all the lies of their lying governments.
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Circular reasoning.

Davidjayjordan said:
true skeptics see through the lies and find answers and have foundations.
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No True Scotsman

Davidjayjordan said:
False skeptics have no basis for discernment except to believe more and more lies. They just don't have the courage to get out of their congregations of deceit.
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Strawman and ad hom.

Davidjayjordan said:
Very very very very few ever make it out and get liberated....
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Circular reasoning.
 
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