True skeptics are 'conspiracy theorists'

And what would that be?


But God gave me this brain. Are you suggesting I go against God's plan that he laid out for me?

The Good Lord gave you the CHOICE to use the brain, He gave you. And then discern truths and CHOOSE your path.

But you choose to be foolish and flippant
 
So, you recognize that Bush adm have been lying a lot about both the Iraqi war and the 911? But, you still prefer to believe in the Bush adm version?

What is that called? True love? How many more lies do you need?

Now HERE is someone I can believe is a TRUE SKEPTIC.

Good on you PAGAN for standing up against the false skeptics who swallow the lies of 9/11 and the wars their inside job has caused, and the upcoming war with Iran.

But do notice Panda, a true skeptic against conspiracies can no longer POST on this thread because he wants to remain in the group of groupies called athiests.

But real individuals agree regardless of a grouping in other areas. They do not have to follow peer pressure and deny everything just because their group does. they discern individual issues OBJECTIVELY and decide with courage and guts. False skeptics just go with the flow of their group or mob.

Well spoken Pagan !!!!!!

But most likely they were so foolish and so irrational you gave up trying to convince them of any truths.

They have eyes to see, but see not


(not all but most)
 
It wont matter that you've pointed it out to him, he wont see it. The whole time I've spoke to DJJ, I've pointed out so many things repeatedly to him, but he still repeats them. He's not interested in the truth. Unlike us TRUE skeptics ;)

Panda as a brit, I thought you knew and belived that your government and the US government were liars and had conspired together in 9/11 and these wars.

Panda, please state your position.

For I thought you were a conspiracy advocate theorist, and now you seem to have lost your conviction when among those that deny conspiracies.

Please read how HERE, the vast majority hoot and holler and mock anyone that sees thru the lies of these governments.

Panda, are you losing it, or just losing your courage when among such opposition to truth.
 
Great minds think alike.

How you are getting it, Par

As Panda has honestly searched thru the lies of the governments and has come to the conclusion honestly that there are definitely conspiracies, where the rich and powerful want to control. That is basic human nature, that you anti-conspiracies theorists in your minds deny. In your sheltered existences, you deny HUMAN NATURE and choose to believe that your ruklers and controlers love you and are looking out for your best interest.

So Yes, great minds get above the rabble and search and seek out truths.

The choice is yours, and all choices have consequences, for your world will eventually fall apart.
 
T.A.M.

Because you seem to post sincere questions, let me respond to you sincerely... as like with like...in (...)

For someone with such a strong faith in a benevolent God, (JESUS) you seem very malignant. (Yesd as he also is not a whimp... and called spades spades when they acted like spades... and when these scribes and pharisees attacked with foolish questions mockery and deceptions. Sometimes you have to be straight forward with the rude and crude for the sake of others) You come in here and insult people here. (NO, they insult me and call me all kinds of names, and try to stop honest threads with foolish posts and condemning posts. have you not read this) Now don't get me wrong, you are not straight forward in your methods. You package your distain, your dislike of those who post here, with articulate language, so the sting is subtle, rather than a smack in the face, but still you are awefully malicious. (Yes I don't like the rude and crude, and those that intentionally try to wreck honest conversations... The Lord also sdoesn;t have much patience with them, if you have read his words.)

You say we stand for nothing (ie we are without conviction), (NO, some of you, notice Pagan's remarks, notice your own, there are divergences of opinion, only the majority HERE stand for nothing. because the majoprity HERE are anti-conspiracy false skeptics, who are afraid to stand up for anything) you say we are not worthy of being someones concience. (NO, I said that to the person who signed himself as my consience,.... and so I posted back to him... and then extrapolated to other false skeptics, who have to learn to have a foundation and principles on which to discern) You call us "false skeptics" (NO the majority of you, not ALL, as anyone can choose to become a true skeptic, even within this thread and change sides, rationally and logically. people can change and choose to change) knowing we take our roles as skeptics quite seriously...insulting us really.
(NO the truth is there are two types of skeptics, some true some false. and this is the truth we are going over HERE, because I also deem myself a true skeptic as I am definitely skeptical about what the governments tell us)

Why is such a devout believer in god so mean to fellow human beings? (Not to all, only to the mean, and the vile and the rude and the foolish who have proven beyond a doubt that they are foolish and mean and rude and crude and worse. This Jesus did as well... I must post you what you said to the false skeptics of his day... and it was not an isolated case.)
 
Panda as a brit, I thought you knew and belived that your government and the US government were liars and had conspired together in 9/11 and these wars.

Panda, please state your position.

For I thought you were a conspiracy advocate theorist, and now you seem to have lost your conviction when among those that deny conspiracies.

Please read how HERE, the vast majority hoot and holler and mock anyone that sees thru the lies of these governments.

Panda, are you losing it, or just losing your courage when among such opposition to truth.

Hmmm, so when you said some people would turn on him if he stated things they did not like, you were actually referring to yourself. I find it kind of funny that you hate governments so much, yet love an institution (religion) that certainly could compete with any government in the "we wouldn't know the truth if it bit us on the behind" category. Interesting brand of skepticism you practice.
 
So that's your only answer? You are not a Kook?

Hey, these Kook guys must be some intelligent sceptical rational serious SOB's . I wanna belong to them.

Pagan

I know gravity

It was the reason.
 
True, we can not be extremists like the false skeptics who seemingly deny every truth and seemingly accept every statement given to them to believe by their governments.

Only groupies make blanket statements to stay in their group and obtain favoured status.

Real individuals study and discern everything. They discern between truth and lies.

So Yes. TAM not all here are athiests just the majority.

But amazingly almost all HERE deny conspiracies even though junior huigh students easily discern through the lies of governments. I would have suspected many athiests or even a majority of athiests would have been conspiracy theorists and wanted and emanded answers. And yet that is the most amzing revelation HERE.

Supposed thinkers not thinking and accepting every lie of their governments is prevalent HERE. maybe it is an over reaction because on conspiracy boards, they are hooted and howled upon. I don't know.

But Panda can not POST here even though a devout born once athiest. For he is a discerning conspiracy theorist. So I would agree with him if he would post against conspiracies. But he can;t because he would lose the athioest bond, with his congregation.



You are talking to yoursef.
 
Hmmm, so when you said some people would turn on him if he stated things they did not like, you were actually referring to yourself. I find it kind of funny that you hate governments so much, yet love an institution (religion) that certainly could compete with any government in the "we wouldn't know the truth if it bit us on the behind" category. Interesting brand of skepticism you practice.

Welcome to the discernment between true skepticism and false skepticism...Miles.

For the damnable church is just like the damnable governments because they are in bed together and both are into power and control. SEE Religion Board concerning CHURCHES are DANGEROUS.

But what I am getting at with Panda, is that even though he opposes me on sexuality and Christianity, I would totally back him up if he had the balls to state his true convictions about the conspiracies of Britiasn and America.

But because of group pressure here among non thinking athiest a thinking athiest like Panda when it comes to conspiracies, will be silenced and intimidated into NOT POSTING.

Panda is in deep trouble with his honesty and conviction....and hence is shocked that avowed supposed intelligent athiests would not be able to see the blatant conspiracies being done in the name of the giovernment. I mean it is as obvious as the blatant SINS of the worldly church.

So you see panda is in a skeptic bind, between true skepticism and becoming a false skeptic just to save face among his religious peer group of athiests.

Panda surely doesn;t know what to do... unless he denies all conspiracies and becomes an anti-conspiracist theorist

an ACT , put on an ACT
 
The Good Lord gave you the CHOICE to use the brain, He gave you. And then discern truths and CHOOSE your path.

But you choose to be foolish and flippant
So my God-given right to choose is somehow a problem for you? You talk of choice, but imply that the only correct "choice" is to believe in your God.

Interesting... Ignorant, too.
 
Welcome to the discernment between true skepticism and false skepticism...Miles.

For the damnable church is just like the damnable governments because they are in bed together and both are into power and control. SEE Religion Board concerning CHURCHES are DANGEROUS.

But what I am getting at with Panda, is that even though he opposes me on sexuality and Christianity, I would totally back him up if he had the balls to state his true convictions about the conspiracies of Britiasn and America.

But because of group pressure here among non thinking athiest a thinking athiest like Panda when it comes to conspiracies, will be silenced and intimidated into NOT POSTING.

Panda is in deep trouble with his honesty and conviction....and hence is shocked that avowed supposed intelligent athiests would not be able to see the blatant conspiracies being done in the name of the giovernment. I mean it is as obvious as the blatant SINS of the worldly church.

So you see panda is in a skeptic bind, between true skepticism and becoming a false skeptic just to save face among his religious peer group of athiests.

Panda surely doesn;t know what to do... unless he denies all conspiracies and becomes an anti-conspiracist theorist

an ACT , put on an ACT

Wow, and I thought I lived in a fantasy world of my own making (I do). I bow to a true master.
 
If a digital computer worked the way is math works (I know work is a not good word for it) we would not be writing about this now, it wouldn’t even get off the ground.

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Paul

:) :) :)

still not happy about that avatar
 
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Interesting commentary on morality from Mr. "Married But Looking"
Yes, it's very interesting that a liar, coward, and adulterer would comment on someone else's morality, isn't it?
I think it's time Mr. DavidJayJordan climbed down off his high horse and admitted he's a fraud! Might as well admit it, the evidence is overwhelming, loser!

Later!
Your Conscience
 
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Isn’t it funny that those who beat the morality drum the loudest usually have the most to hide.

Paul

:) :) :)

DJJ just go away before even more of the real you comes out, we don't need to see it.
 

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