Rolfe
Adult human female
Here's further confirmation that this was an insurance issue. Sharron Davies is magnificent.
Transwomen are not Women - Part 15
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Rolfe
Adult human female
Sorry, I just saw that. I'm not sure which events Thomas was known to have given his all in, and which he is suspected of only competing in when he was pulling back to damp down the controversy. I think there was one particular race, very early on, where he finished so far ahead he could practically have showered and changed before the second-placed competitor finished. This seems to have shocked him. He may not have realised how far ahead he was going to finish if he gave it everything he had. Everything after that event is suspect.
Emily's Cat
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Common among pretty much everyone, most commonly when referring to breast implants in females. Particularly the gravity-defying at full-attention type of low grade implants.
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Emily's Cat
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According to my spousal unit, females have it easier as we don't have to worry about having a penis hit the bowl. So apparently we poop a bit differently after all.
Emily's Cat
Rarely prone to hissy-fits
No.
We don't each have our own personal reality, we all share the same reality. Reality exists independent of their interpretation of it. If a person's errant brain wiring leads them to perceive a dog as a cow, that doesn't turn the pup into a calf.
And it certainly doesn't obligate anyone else to pretend that their terrier just mooed.
Emily's Cat
Rarely prone to hissy-fits
No, it's not a rock-solid analogy, Thermal. Most blatantly, it swaps the roles of who is disadvantaged. It inanely presents females as being the powerful group with privileges, who are excluding a disadvantaged group and keeping them from full participation in society. But females are NOT the powerfully privileged group from a historical perspective - males are. And refusing to allow males to appropriate female sex-specific spaces and services does not prevent them from full participation in society, as males already have that. And there is literally nothing at all that keeps a male who prefers to present in stereotyped female attire from continuing to participate fully in society.
Emily's Cat
Rarely prone to hissy-fits
Because there aren't any transmen competing against biological males.
Emily's Cat
Rarely prone to hissy-fits
It's "nerfing", and a huge amount of animals do it too. It's extremely common among puppies and kittens that the stronger male juveniles will hold back so that the weaker females can play without harm.
Emily's Cat
Rarely prone to hissy-fits
Hi WAB!Hello, new to the thread. I know that the story I am linking to was brought up here, in this thread, but I don't recall seeing much discussion about it.
Deerfield middle school administrators force teen girls to change in front of boy in school locker room - Lake County Gazette
Deerfield School District 109 administrators forced teen girls at Shepard Middle School to change in front of a boy in the school locker room.lakecountygazette.com
I don't ordinarily join in the transgender discussion, but this story urged me to participate, because if it's true, it is really, deeply disturbing. If the story is not true, my apologies; but if true, then I believe it ought to be discussed.
My opinion is that these women, if indeed they did it, should not only be fired, but criminally charged and prosecuted. I'm really interested in finding out how such a thing could be defended.
I looked around to see if this story was debunked, but haven't found evidence of that. Please believe me, if it is the case that this is not true, or has been unduly exaggerated, I'd be greatly relieved.
There's never 100% certainty these days. What I will say is that I haven't seen any reporting that contradicts it. I've seen individual people asserting that it's not true, but that's not the same. Usually (not always) if something is actually false, there will be reporting from at least one source referencing witness statements or similar that contradicts the original claim. For this case, there hasn't been any contradictory reporting at all.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that after the event in which he thrashed those girls (the Zippy Invitational in Ohio) where he recorded 1:41.93 for the 200 yards freestyle, finishing almost 3/4 length ahead of the first biological (i.e. real) woman to finish, he must have realised the jig would be up if he continued to win by such big margins, so he started sandbagging... only doing what he needed to in order to win, as well as throwing some unimportant races. In his next favoured event, the 500 yard freestyle, he won with a time of 4:37.32... winning only by about a body-length. That time was a seven seconds slower than his qualifying time (which he set before his 200 yard win) and even more short of his PB. Ask any top level swimmer and they will tell that is a suspiciously large drop in performance that would be very difficult to explain unless he was sandbagging. I watched that 500 yard swim... he was not trying very hard, hardly kicking at all.
Rolfe
Adult human female
You recall the detail better than me, but that's what I broadly remember. Every time of his after that event where he won by the stupid margin is suspect in my opinion. Look at him. He's enormous compared to the girls he's competing against, and while he may not be top-notch in the male division he's not bad. He's not Veronica Ivy, middle-aged, overweight and unfit, and still beating fit young women. He's a man in his prime, fit and trained, and with an impressive physique. He should be finishing at least half a length clear every time.
So I have serious doubts that his loss to Henig was on the level. Good for her for producing a personal best, and there's no reason to think she was party to any shenanigans, but I think he has elevated throwing races to a fine art.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Swimming (and now Rugby Sevens of course) is pretty much the only sport I ever watch at the Olympics, so I have paid close attention to it for many years now, going right back to Mark Spitz, Michael Gross and our own Danyon Loader and Anthony Mosse. This is why I consider it such a travesty that this man was allowed to invade the women's events and tarnish them with his presence. Thank goodness World Aquatics put a stop to the madness.
Thomas did take a legal case against them in the Court of Arbitration for Sport, but they handed him his arse pretty quickly.
Rolfe
Adult human female
It shows how the tide is turning, at least. It was amazing to me from the start that what he was doing was barely remarked on. He was doing times that were completely off the charts for women's college events, then after that insane win, suddenly he wasn't. But all the trans-captured commentators were pointing to his poorer performance and his occasional losses as proof positive that whatever he was taking (probably intermittently) to lower his testosterone had crippled him to the point where he was indistinguishable from a woman. And look, he was beaten by a transman! Yeah, right.
He must be a bit dim. It was surely obvious even before he started this grift that the women's times were so much poorer than the men's, than what he was capable of, that he would have to take it easy. But he really went for it in that race. Three-quarters of a length!
To set a record that would never be broken?
Matthew Best
Penultimate Amazing
ECB says transgender women cannot compete in women's cricket with immediate effect
The England and Wales Cricket Board bans transgender women from women's cricket with immediate effect.
www.bbc.co.uk
ECB bars transgender women from women's cricket
angrysoba
Philosophile
I suspect the smartcooky is doing what I am doing Rolfe, which is to use a combination of Google and Chat GPT to find out what the times were and when the events were. I very much doubt that an interest in Olympic swimming means that he keeps up with relatively minor meets as the Zippy Invitational (for disclosure I asked Chat GPT if it is a prestigious event. It is not).
What was pointed out is that the Zippy event did indeed astonish a lot of people because of the very long distance between first and second in the one mile race. A time of 38 seconds more. This must be the race you were referring to when you said Thomas could have showered and changed before the next competitor even arrived.
So, does this mean that all the other races were thrown or deliberately laboured as "any top level swimmer" will tell you?
Not necessarily. According to Chat GPT, Thomas's time in the 1650 yrds of 15.59.71 was way off the eventual NCAA finals:
angrysoba
Philosophile
Look, for avoidance of doubt, I also support sex-segregation in sports.
But at least get the details right.
If one just makes stuff up with "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind" and "ask any top level swimmer" and then go on to say things that are just false, then it damages the credibility of the person saying it.
We may suspect that Lia Thomas has pulled a stunt or two, but in fact in many of the swimming events there are plenty of female swimmers who are legitimately much faster than Thomas.
The point that is best made is that Thomas is a wake-up call that there would be nothing to stop a legitimately better male swimmer from entering the pool and dominating.
But at least get the details right.
If one just makes stuff up with "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind" and "ask any top level swimmer" and then go on to say things that are just false, then it damages the credibility of the person saying it.
We may suspect that Lia Thomas has pulled a stunt or two, but in fact in many of the swimming events there are plenty of female swimmers who are legitimately much faster than Thomas.
The point that is best made is that Thomas is a wake-up call that there would be nothing to stop a legitimately better male swimmer from entering the pool and dominating.
smartcooky
Penultimate Amazing
Isn't all this just the worst kind of indictment of officials and politicians? Sports governing bodies for Pool, Football and Cricket have responded swiftly and decisively to the Supreme Court's clarification of the law, but in the mean time, officials and politicians are still hedging and equivocating, as the ruling party's ideologically captured members are squealing like stuck pigs while clutching their pearls.ECB says transgender women cannot compete in women's cricket with immediate effect
The England and Wales Cricket Board bans transgender women from women's cricket with immediate effect.
ECB bars transgender women from women's cricket
Its pure comedy gold - and Keir Starment STILL has not come out and directly stated his position.
Rolfe
Adult human female
ECB says transgender women cannot compete in women's cricket with immediate effect
The England and Wales Cricket Board bans transgender women from women's cricket with immediate effect.
ECB bars transgender women from women's cricket
That was being widely trailed yesterday. There is much rejoicing.
I do wish they would stop this "transgender women" thing. They're transgender men. But it may take some time to purge the language of the nonsensical forms that have been introduced and imposed by the trans lobby.
Rolfe
Adult human female
It was a college meeting. I'm not au fait with what was going on in respect of records, but maybe @smartcooky will know.