Today's Mass Shooting

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Cain said:
As much as I love ALL Americans regardless of race, gender or religion, I just love guns a little bit more.
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That love is not shared elsewhere, where fellow citizens are loved more than guns.
 
Stacyhs said:
Why bother even discussing the latest mass shooting? We'll hear the usual platitudes about 'hopes and prayers'. We'll hear the usual from both sides regarding gun control. But nothing, absolutely nothing, will be done about it. Unlike other countries, like New Zealand, we do not learn. We really are the stupidest country on Earth.
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The onion gets to put a new picture on their article about "‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"
 
quadraginta said:
Okay. This is a usage I wasn't familiar with. I have always thought of a silencer as a device one attached to a firearm. (Assuming it wasn't an integral part of the weapon design.)
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You are making a functional distinction, the issue being cited was legal not functional. Kind of like how the receiver is legally the gun in the US and many components are not regulated like barrels while in other countries like the UK it is pressure containing components that are legally regulated

What this means is that one must be able to legally make and sell NFA regulated firearms to make one and they must all be serialized. Unlike say a simple AR-15 that anyone can buy a 80% lower and finish it all nice and legal with out the need for serial numbers.
 
jimbob said:
How about Port Arthur in Australia.

Or the UK responses to mass shootings. At about 20% of the population of the US, if all else was equal, we'd expect about 20% of the mass shootings of the US. Instead the US dwarfs the whole of Europe, including Russia.
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Have you heard of the term population density? And if so do you understand its effects on violent crime.

Your posts seems to indicate you do not as it implies it is a simple math problem, not a more complex population based equation.

Give me ten people in an apartment building, I can probably guarentee little violence. Put those ten people in a bathroom and someone is getting hurt. ( as a very simple example for you)
 
quadraginta said:
Okay. This is a usage I wasn't familiar with. I have always thought of a silencer as a device one attached to a firearm. (Assuming it wasn't an integral part of the weapon design.)
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It is, but it's like how ecigarette parts in Canada have a " contains nicotine " warning on them.

They obviously contain no nicotine but so people don't skirt rules they are considered a product containing nicotine. (To be clear, as an example. When I buy a coil,which is cotton and steel. It contains said warning, as 1 example)
 
quadraginta said:
Okay. This is a usage I wasn't familiar with. I have always thought of a silencer as a device one attached to a firearm. (Assuming it wasn't an integral part of the weapon design.)
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It is a bit strange. Kind of like how bump stocks are legally machine guns in the USA. That is how Trump accomplished his first gun grab.
 
quadraginta said:
Okay. This is a usage I wasn't familiar with. I have always thought of a silencer as a device one attached to a firearm. (Assuming it wasn't an integral part of the weapon design.)
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Many folks may not know this, but suppressors are common enough that commercial airlines have written policies concerning traveling wqith suppressors:

https://www.alaskaair.com/content/travel-info/baggage/special-baggage/transporting-firearms

The following items may be included in your normal baggage allowance. Excess charges will apply for additional pieces of baggage. All items must be suitably packaged for transport.

One rifle case with rifles, scopes, one shooting mat, noise suppressors and small tools.

One shotgun case with shotguns.

One pistol case with pistols, noise suppressors, one pistol telescope and small pistol tools There is no limit to the number or type of firearms (rifles/shotguns/pistols) per case.

Different firearm types may be in the same case as long as each type is properly packed.
 
Baylor said:
Not this **** again. He was being sarcastic.
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I disagree. Amongst those who work to preserve gun rights and limit restrictions, there is more love for the gun than there is for fellow citizens.
 
sadhatter said:
Have you heard of the term population density? And if so do you understand its effects on violent crime.

Your posts seems to indicate you do not as it implies it is a simple math problem, not a more complex population based equation.

Give me ten people in an apartment building, I can probably guarentee little violence. Put those ten people in a bathroom and someone is getting hurt. ( as a very simple example for you)
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Yes I have heard about population density. I am not sure what your point is.

Vast parts of Australia are less densely populated than Texas. Large parts of Europe are very densely populated. Japan is far more densely populated than most of the US.

I don't think that population density is the explanation.



https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4wb9p3/mass-shootings-in-europe-in-2016

Europe including Russia: 53 dead, 169 injured

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdwpwk/mass-shootings-in-the-united-states-and-europe-in-2016

US: 392 dead, 1,502 injured
 
sadhatter said:
It is, but it's like how ecigarette parts in Canada have a " contains nicotine " warning on them.

They obviously contain no nicotine but so people don't skirt rules they are considered a product containing nicotine. (To be clear, as an example. When I buy a coil,which is cotton and steel. It contains said warning, as 1 example)
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This is an understandable measure, I think.

Consider the fact that we know bath-salts by the name "bath-salts" pricely because manufacturers of these products were able to skirt laws and regulations simply by pretending their product wasn't intended for consumption.
 
Lothian said:
Seems he didn't grab every gun.
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Nope. Just those that have been used for how many shootings? One? Had he grabbed them two years ago he would have saved how many lives? Zero?

Good thing Trump is a conservative, he might have done more damage to our gun culture than Obama. :)
 
Nessie said:
I disagree. Amongst those who work to preserve gun rights and limit restrictions, there is more love for the gun than there is for fellow citizens.
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Your ramblings have no bearing on whether or not he was being sarcastic.
 
jimbob said:
Yes I have heard about population density. I am not sure what your point is.

Vast parts of Australia are less densely populated than Texas. Large parts of Europe are very densely populated. Japan is far more densely populated than most of the US.

I don't think that population density is the explanation.



https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/4wb9p3/mass-shootings-in-europe-in-2016

Europe including Russia: 53 dead, 169 injured

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xdwpwk/mass-shootings-in-the-united-states-and-europe-in-2016

US: 392 dead, 1,502 injured
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In 2017, UK had over 700 acid attacks. US had zero. And the US has 6 times the population as UK

It's because UKians love acid more than their fellow citizens!
 
Nessie said:
He cannot. No one can deal with the shooting violence in the USA. It is an insurmountable problem.
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That means there are 700 times the acid attacks in the UK. With less than 1/5 the population. The UK acid attack rate is more than 3,500 times that of the US. It's because UKians love acid more than their own citizens!
 
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