Cont: Today's Mass Shooting (part 3)

[Darat]

Assault Weapons and other rifles were responsible for around 3% of all gun deaths in the USA. I guess getting rid of assault-weapons is a false-solution to our problems.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/04/26/what-the-data-says-about-gun-deaths-in-the-u-s/

And how many mass shootings and woundings?

 

[Hercules56]

Actually, it would likely save the lives of at least some of those 3%, and many in the mass shooting category. And what's the trade off? Americans don't have a certain kind of weapon that they have no non-mass-shooting reason to have in the first place.

And I'm talking ZERO ******* reason to have an AR or AK or similar. Those guys can play Army on a paintball range if they like. Beyond some competitive shooting events, you really don't have a civilian application for a thousand dollar beer can pinker.

Then ban public carry of handguns, and start weeding out the semis, till we are down to revolvers carrying up to six rounds, with a similar magazine restriction on long guns.

ARs and AKs are responsible for only 3% of gun deaths, handguns a much larger percentage. If you want to save lives focus on handgun restrictions.

 

[Nessie]

ARs and AKs are responsible for only 3% of gun deaths, handguns a much larger percentage. If you want to save lives focus on handgun restrictions.

If you want to save lives, focus on who has a gun. If someone is responsible, it does not matter what type of gun they have.

 

[Thermal]

ARs and AKs are responsible for only 3% of gun deaths, handguns a much larger percentage. If you want to save lives focus on handgun restrictions.

You forgot to read the post you were responding to, and instead repeated yourself.

 

[sackett]

If you want to save lives, focus on who has a gun. If someone is responsible, it does not matter what type of gun they have.

Well, we all like to say that. But I'm not plumb sure that we can recognize responsibility that accurately. Human nature is a dangerous substance. I'd rather put temptation out of the reach of most people altogether.

Little Karl Rottenass's mom considered him responsible enough. That's not quite good enough for me, though. How 'bout you?

 

[Trausti]

May I remind everybody that El Salvador did a deal with the largest drugs gang to deliver votes for him and isnow engaged in a strategy of kidnapping random civillians off the street while leaving known murderers and drug gang leaders go scot free.

Bukeke is also the man who replaced his country's currency with bitcoin which left El Salvadoreans engaging in economic activities solely through US dollars.

Fasinating how upset lefties get when people are no longer subjected to criminal abuse and misery. I'm sure Salvadorians are really hating on Bukeke.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Fasinating how upset lefties get when people are no longer subjected to criminal abuse and misery. I'm sure Salvadorians are really hating on Bukeke.

How many suns are there on your planet?

 

[Trausti]

How many suns are there on your planet?

Is it the left or the right criticizing Bukele for showing that the root cause of crime is criminals? Safe, low crime, societes can be achieved if you throw a lot of leftie assumptions in the trash.

 

[Norman Alexander]

Is it the left or the right criticizing Bukele for showing that the root cause of crime is criminals? Safe, low crime, societes can be achieved if you throw a lot of leftie assumptions in the trash.

Of course! Then you get the biggest gangster becoming pseudo-legitimate, which gives him the ability to eliminate his gangster opposition and terrorise the whole country instead of just his local victims. Doesn't make him any less a gangster, just a bigger one. Also, he gets lots of Bitcoin. Mini-Trump.

But this has no bearing on US mass shootings.

 

[Nessie]

I suspect gangs are the biggest single cause of mass shootings. Drive by shootings are pretty much always mass shootings.

 

[Andy_Ross]

The UK took the common sense action of banning rapid fire, multiple shot weapons, no matter their type. That makes a mass shooting much harder as the shooter has to constantly reload.

You can still have a semi automatic in .22 rimfire.

 

[Nessie]

You can still have a semi automatic in .22 rimfire.

But you can only fire three bullets before you need to reload. Americans when they mass shoot can just spray bullets for minutes on end. UK mass shooters have lots of pauses.

 

[Norman Alexander]

I suspect gangs are the biggest single cause of mass shootings. Drive by shootings are pretty much always mass shootings.

Gangs who can get guns. Otherwise it is West Side Story, or a dance fight.

 

[Andy_Ross]

But you can only fire three bullets before you need to reload. Americans when they mass shoot can just spray bullets for minutes on end. UK mass shooters have lots of pauses.

That is a restriction on shotguns, not rifles.
My semi auto .22 Ruger had two magazines, a short 10 round and an extended 20 round.
My Lee Enfields in both .303 and 7.62 and had 10 round magazines.

 

[arthwollipot]

I have been arguing it will never happen. The USA will forever more allow guns that mean deer and children can be pumped full of bullets, as a sport, till they are dead.

"Never" doesn't exist. "Forever" doesn't exist. Everything changes.

Is it the left or the right criticizing Bukele for showing that the root cause of crime is criminals? Safe, low crime, societes can be achieved if you throw a lot of leftie assumptions in the trash.

Only by means of wholesale violations of human rights.

 

[Nessie]

"Never" doesn't exist. "Forever" doesn't exist. Everything changes.

You say that and then...

Only by means of wholesale violations of human rights.

You say one of the various reasons why the USA will never solve its mass shooting problem.

 

[Trausti]

Only by means of wholesale violations of human rights.

What rights for extortionists / murders are you speaking of? Does the victimized public factor into this discussion of "rights"?

 

[Nessie]

More Americans value the right to bear arms, than the right to life.

 

[Blue Mountain]

There's been a mass shoointg here in Winnipeg: Four people dead in Langside Street shooting.

Strict gun laws don't necessarily prevent mass shootings, but they certainly seem to reduce the instances.

 

[Steve]

There's been a mass shoointg here in Winnipeg: Four people dead in Langside Street shooting.

Strict gun laws don't necessarily prevent mass shootings, but they certainly seem to reduce the instances.

Indeed. This was the 5th Canadian mass shooting in 2023. Total of 10 dead and 17 injured in those 5. Our "onerous" gun laws seem to be preventing a lot of grief.