Titanic tourist sub missing

[Mike!]

I wonder if any of the passengers figured it must be safe if the CEO himself is willing to go in it.

I imagine it played some role in the decision process.

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

They were pushing the frontiers of human knowledge concerning whether you could build a deep ocean submersible cheaply enough to meet the threshold where rich tourists could make it commercially viable.

Turns out the answer is no, not yet.

I'd like to think this "incident" has killed the deep-sea tourist business forever but I suppose that it only has for a week or two.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Next time on cheapskate challenge: 3D printing - how deep do you think they'll dare to go with this one?

 

[Dr.Sid]

I'd like to think this "incident" has killed the deep-sea tourist business forever but I suppose that it only has for a week or two.

Nonsense. The chance of dying is part of the deal. Also lot of people didn't even know something like that is a thing. The business will boom.

 

[Mike!]

Nonsense. The chance of dying is part of the deal. Also lot of people didn't even know something like that is a thing. The business will boom.

Do implosions go boom? I assumed it was more of a moob.

 

[Dismember]

I wonder if any of the passengers figured it must be safe if the CEO himself is willing to go in it.

My guess is that it probably had a lot to do with it. Rush was very intelligent, charismatic, and like any good salesman, he truly believed in his own product.

I don’t think this has been posted yet — journalist David Pogue was invited to go on the Titanic expedition last year. At the 2:40 mark, he answers the question “Why would anyone get in that thing?”

https://youtu.be/1eObme9OUr8

In addition to what he says here, all the negative things— the people and organizations who warned him that he was taking too many risks— were not known to the public at that time. If someone was searching for info on Rush and OceanGate Expeditions, they’d have been more likely to find the neutral-to-positive article in the Smithsonian, or OceanGate’s own well-made marketing videos. Imo it all gave a pretty convincing illusion of being risky (in the sense that mountain climbing or bungee jumping are risky) but ultimately “safe” in the sense that with proper equipment and following proper precautions & protocols, you’re not likely to come to harm.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Do implosions go boom? I assumed it was more of a moob.

No, some symposium, I think about cartoons, decades ago agreed that an implosion goes

GNAB!

Hans

 

[Dr.Sid]

Do implosions go boom? I assumed it was more of a moob.

Sure, the size isn't exactly the same .. but I guess the sound would be .. I'd go with "thunk".

https://youtu.be/8tW4zfTeJqM?t=392

I also suggest this video form some glass objects imploding:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD7CfnQC5HQ

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Do implosions go boom? I assumed it was more of a moob.

I'm sure some physicist could calculate the sound energy involved.

We need a metric, like the noise from X number of sticks of dynamite, or at least cherry bombs..

 

[lobosrul5]

I'm sure some physicist could calculate the sound energy involved.

We need a metric, like the noise from X number of sticks of dynamite, or at least cherry bombs..

The US Navy could probably calculate a pretty good estimate on how loud it was in decibels. They did pick it up on hydrophones after all. Then that could be compared to something an average person could understand, like a Ted Nugent concert or something even louder, like a BTS concert.

 

[newyorkguy]

Innovative filmmaker James Cameron described the implosion of Titan as a "loud bang."

“We got confirmation within an hour that there had been a loud bang at the same time that the sub comms were lost. A loud bang on the hydrophone. Loss of transponder. Loss of comms. I knew what happened. The sub imploded,” Cameron told the Reuters news agency. Guardian news link

Cameron added:

He was skeptical when he heard OceanGate was making a deep-sea submersible with a composite carbon fibre and titanium hull. “I thought it was a horrible idea. I wish I’d spoken up, but I assumed somebody was smarter than me...

 

[Azrael 5]

Can you explain how this topic has anything to do with " looting " the Titanic?

It's connected to The Titanic so I thought Id ask whilst I was here,ok?

 

[Dude111]

Originally posted by Jack by the hedge
They were pushing the frontiers of human knowledge concerning whether you could build a deep ocean submersible cheaply enough to meet the threshold where rich tourists could make it commercially viable.

Turns out the answer is no, not yet.

 
I feel bad about what happend but the titanic sinking WAS NOT A JOKE AND IS NOT SHOW AND TELL... I dont know why anyone wants to go see it....... Let those ppl rest in peace!!!!

 

[Myriad]

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I feel bad about what happend but the titanic sinking WAS NOT A JOKE AND IS NOT SHOW AND TELL... I dont know why anyone wants to go see it....... Let those ppl rest in peace!!!!

I think they've already had plenty of rest. After 111 years, if they're not reincarnated yet, maybe they need to be poked a bit.

 

[arthwollipot]

Steve Novella:

Titan Disaster and Risk vs Benefit

There has been a lot of discussion regarding the recent disaster of the Titan submersible. Was the risk justified? Who should be responsible for the safety issues? Who should be on the hook for the millions of dollars the rescue effort took? And why did this tragedy garner more media coverage than 600 people dying off the coast of Greece when an overcrowded fishing crawler capsized?...

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Uh, because people are more worried the closer to home it is than about what happens on the other side of the globe? Like, I'm pretty sure I was more interested in Ukraine at the time than about either. And even there I was more interested in when I can shopping before it starts raining, than in Prigozhin's march even while it was happening

Yeah, I don't pretend I'm not an ass

 

[zooterkin]

Uh, because people are more worried the closer to home it is than about what happens on the other side of the globe?

Well that’s not it, because the coverage in the UK was the same.

 

[Orphia Nay]

The 500 dead migrants was a top story on Australian ABC News for 2 days, which is something, but I didn't see any top stories about the 30 dead migrants.

But sadly, OceanGategate was top story for several days.

I'd say that OceanGategate was top story because of the 96 hours of oxygen and the race to find them, but there was also a time factor with the migrants. The migrants were in the ocean too and how long does a person last in the ocean without a life vest?

 

[SpuriusMaximus]

Well that’s not it, because the coverage in the UK was the same.

You had Hamish Harding on board, though.

 

[jeremyp]

You had Hamish Harding on board, though.

I’d never heard of him until the story broke.