Three Professors of Psychiatry call for "neuropsychiatric evaluation"

[mijopaalmc]

It's a stupid argument. Sorry you and Bob don't like the GOP taint right now. Libertarians certainly have more values that align with the right wing at the moment.

When did I ever support "States' Rights"?

I just think that your the argument with respect to "States' Rights" being a right-wing position is hopelessly vague. Support for "States' Rights" on the right doesn't mean that arguments supporting states rights are necessarily right-wing.

 

[BobTheCoward]

States rights only seems to be a left right issue to the extent it matters to affecting policy. My support for it is that states rights is the end, not the means to an end.

 

[logger]

That doesn't make it right-wing by definition.

This new left isn't the old left.

 

[Ziggurat]

Proving someone in unfit to serve doesn't undo the election results; it just demonstrates that someone unfit to serve was elected.

Keep telling yourself that. Plenty of people thought Trump was unfit, and voted accordingly. So why the request for a psych eval now, after the election? What's the point, if it isn't going to change anything?

 

[BobTheCoward]

Also, if I am right wing, can you please let logger know? He is calling me a leftist.

 

[Aepervius]

No. The point is that the time to consider this is before the election, and the people to consider it are the voters. And voters came to a conclusion already. This is yet another attempt to undo the results of the election, nothing more.

No it does not. Because no matter what would happen, IIRC he would still have been elected, and there is a process in case the president is declared incompetent : use the vice president.

 

[logger]

The GOP can't taint me because I have never supporters then.

If you want to argue that libertarians are mostly right wing, despite all the anti right wing positions, that is fine.

Is it a 50/50 split?

 

[logger]

Also, if I am right wing, can you please let logger know? He is calling me a leftist.

No, I just appreciate the strange bed fellows leftists and libertarians make.

 

[ChrisBFRPKY]

Trump may be crazy, but crazy like a fox. What a great time to be in the GOP! We control the Presidency, House, Senate, and a majority of state governments. If there was ever a time to doubt the policies of the Democrat party, that would be now. The Democrat party has not been this powerless since reconstruction after the Civil War. The Democrat philosophy has been rejected nationwide by the majority of states. What more does it take to see it as the catastrophic failure it has proven to be? Chris B.

 

[mijopaalmc]

Keep telling yourself that. Plenty of people thought Trump was unfit, and voted accordingly. So why the request for a psych eval now, after the election? What's the point, if it isn't going to change anything?

*sigh*

I didn't say that determining Trump was unfit to serve would have no effect. I said that it wouldn't undo the election results insofar as Trump will have still been elected but his election will have been contravened.

 

[tyr_13]

They're just trying to work through the bargaining phase. Don't interfere with their self-therapy.

This is an ad-hom. You're attributing their argument not to good faith conclusion based on their view of the evidence, but on the characteristic you're assigning to them. This is an attempt to give your criticism of their argument the appearance of validity, but it doesn't actually address the argument they've put forth.

One might as well dismiss your claims as 'the stages of grief' over the hijacking of your movement and party. It doesn't make what they're arguing false.

Trump really does display ever warning of this disorder. It would take an in person evaluation to determine if he really has this disorder, or if he just plays a brittle narcissist on TV. The people making this determination being liberal, or conservative, or French, doesn't change the merit of this argument.


*Note I'm not defending them sending this letter and publishing it, which I still view as foolish. I'm just defending the arguments therein, and opposing fallacious thinking.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Also, if I am right wing, can you please let logger know? He is calling me a leftist.

Sometimes logger's political synapse seems to misfire.

 

[fuelair]

Yes you did:







Whatever.

It's a stupid argument. Sorry you and Bob don't like the GOP taint right now. Libertarians certainly have more values that align with the right wing at the moment.

Too true - at the risk of the truth being told, One person one vote and areas/voting districts should be randomly computer generated by an agency with no ties to any party, with voting locations required to be sufficient for the population and open daily, early and late in every district with very simple and non- biased requirements for voting for at least one month prior to the election. And an automatic prison sentence of 10 to 15 years for violating any part/s of same. Execution for anyone found messing with the involved computers.

 

[Giz]

*sigh*

I didn't say that determining Trump was unfit to serve would have no effect. I said that it wouldn't undo the election results insofar as Trump will have still been elected but his election will have been contravened.

That is undoing the election results.

(And is a terrible precedent )

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

That is undoing the election results.

(And is a terrible precedent )

What solution would you suggest if (not saying these are currently the case but they are certainly within the realm of possibilities):

The POTUS elect was mentally ill and unfit?

Found to have colluded with Russia to cheat?

Turned out the voting machines were seriously tampered with?

 

[Giz]

What solution would you suggest if (not saying these are currently the case but they are certainly within the realm of possibilities):

The POTUS elect was mentally ill and unfit?

Found to have colluded with Russia to cheat?

Turned out the voting machines were seriously tampered with?

I'd say, calm the hysteria and follow Obama's lead.

As opposed to creating civil war.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

I'd say, calm the hysteria and follow Obama's lead.

As opposed to creating civil war.

So a mentally ill POTUS, a rigged election, a POTUS that was caught in a Watergate level cheating in his election, they should be POTUS rather than upsetting the applecart?

Wow, that's scary.

 

[Giz]

Sure. And a coup that destroys 2 centuries of constitutional transfer of power is just "upsetting the applecart ".

You know, there have been important elections before. But the losers were a bit more mature.

 

[Wolrab]

I wonder who they voted for.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Sure. And a coup that destroys 2 centuries of constitutional transfer of power is just "upsetting the applecart ".

You know, there have been important elections before. But the losers were a bit more mature.

How many times in our history have we been led into a neofascist plutocracy by an authoritarian narcissistic demagogue who appears to be coming more unhinged every day?

"Wake up, Sheeple!!!"