Three Professors of Psychiatry call for "neuropsychiatric evaluation"

[WilliamSeger]

Is Trump Mentally Ill?

Dear President Obama,



We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect. Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office. We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.

 

[Beerina]

Is Trump Mentally Ill?

Dear President Obama,



We are writing to express our grave concern regarding the mental stability of our President-Elect. Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless, his widely reported symptoms of mental instability — including grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality — lead us to question his fitness for the immense responsibilities of the office. We strongly recommend that, in preparation for assuming these responsibilities, he receive a full medical and neuropsychiatric evaluation by an impartial team of investigators.

Who does he think he is? A TV star billionaire who just got elected president against all odds?

 

[theprestige]

Professional standards do not permit us to venture a diagnosis for a public figure whom we have not evaluated personally. Nevertheless [...]

Ha.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Don't think you need a formal eval to conclude the obvious. He has a pathologic narcissistic personality disorder.

He'll never submit to an eval unless it is rigged with a doctor paid to conclude what Trump dictates. That is part of the illness.

 

[Upchurch]

Who does he think he is? A TV star billionaire who just got elected president against all odds?

Who knows more than the generals, is the only one who can save the country, and doesn't need up-to-date security information because he's "smart". Not to mention the continued "Cher for me!" rallies and the uncontrolled 3 AM twitter rants.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Who does he think he is? A TV star billionaire who just got elected president against all odds?

It's the "apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality" that has always bothered me the most, particularly since it seems to be highly contagious. Viral, even.

 

[Dumb All Over]

Not to mention the continued "Cher for me!" rallies and the uncontrolled 3 AM twitter rants.

At Republican Headquarters on election night they played "Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves" and "Half-Breed" over and over and over again. Crazy.

 

[TragicMonkey]

That's nothing. I got three veterinarians calling for him to be put to sleep.

 

[tyr_13]

They should have addressed the letter to Congress. I don't believe President Obama can actually do anything about it.

 

[The Big Dog]

Wait, are we just repeating any *********** morons' claims now?

Dear president USA, I am doctor! Please test mr trump!

Man, this used to be a skeptics site.

 

[theprestige]

Don't think you need a formal eval to conclude the obvious. He has a pathologic narcissistic personality disorder.

If you don't need a formal eval, then you're already going to get the answer you need: The majority of voters in the majority of states have evaluated him as fit for office. In two days, the Electors will make the same evaluation. There you go: No need for formal evaluation? Then the conclusion is that Trump is fit for office.

But while we're here, please remind me: Why is it evil for foreign powers and FBI directors to try to influence US elections; but it's not evil for psychiatrists, acting contrary to the professional standards of their practice, to try to influence US elections?

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

That's nothing. I got three veterinarians calling for him to be put to sleep.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Wait, are we just repeating any *********** morons' claims now?

Dear president USA, I am doctor! Please test mr trump!

Man, this used to be a skeptics site.

Well, I guess it still is: you're skeptical of Harvard Medical School professors, and I was already extremely skeptical of DJT's mental health. Anyway, the "*********** morons' claims" are simply that he needs to get his head examined. Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

 

[theprestige]

Well, I guess it still is: you're skeptical of Harvard Medical School professors, and I was already extremely skeptical of DJT's mental health. Anyway, the "*********** morons' claims" are simply that he needs to get his head examined. Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

There is not a single peer reviewed study that correlates social media activity with mental disorder. There is not a single peer reviewed study that correlates media representations with mental disorder. There's a reason the mental health community has adopted the professional standard of not diagnosing people--no matter how important they might be--without a proper clinical examination.

You're damn right I'm skeptical of these Harvard Medical School Professors. I'm skeptical of them precisely because they have exchanged the standards of their profession for amateur-hour stunts. They are appealing to authority because other than that, they have nothing. They have nothing, and you have nothing. Figure it out.

 

[The Big Dog]

Well, I guess it still is: you're skeptical of Harvard Medical School professors, and I was already extremely skeptical of DJT's mental health. Anyway, the "*********** morons' claims" are simply that he needs to get his head examined. Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

Snerk. Say, welcome to the site.

My favorite part was when the mutts said they could not diagnose him and wrote a letter to Barack Obama.

Hee hee!

 

[Loss Leader]

They're professors of psychiatry, yet they couldn't be bothered to investigate whether the President has any authority whatsoever to order anyone to submit to a psychiatric evaluation.

It's either a hoax or just plain stupid.

 

[WilliamSeger]

Snerk. Say, welcome to the site.

My favorite part was when the mutts said they could not diagnose him and wrote a letter to Barack Obama.

Hee hee!

Thanks, but I'd seriously like an answer to my question: Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

 

[WilliamSeger]

They're professors of psychiatry, yet they couldn't be bothered to investigate whether the President has any authority whatsoever to order anyone to submit to a psychiatric evaluation.

It's either a hoax or just plain stupid.

Same question to you: Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

 

[WilliamSeger]

Obama can't do anything, but after the Boy King it coronated and it becomes inescapably apparent that he is unhinged, Section 4 of the 25th Amendment comes into play:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.
Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.

 

[theprestige]

Thanks, but I'd seriously like an answer to my question: Are you suggesting that DJT has not demonstrated an astonishing amount of "grandiosity, impulsivity, hypersensitivity to slights or criticism, and an apparent inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality," or do you believe that's normal behavior and perfectly acceptable for our president?

False dilemma, begging the question, and subjective opinion anyway. And also appeal to authority.

You're quoting these guys like it means something. But without an actual clinical diagnosis, it doesn't mean anything. Without an actual clinical diagnosis, it means the same as your own subjective opinion. So let's evaluate it on that basis: William Seger says Donald Trump demonstrates "an astonishing amount of bla bla bla". So what? Is your astonishment supposed to mean something?