The Truth Movement: Finally, Lost in Space

I'm here since before this subforum was created, Sabretooth. I have participated in many threads on factual topics, and I know the players in this subforum inside out. Many of them don't deserve the slightest respect. The "tell us your theory" nonsense is an age old routine tactic here and done to everybody who dares to question even little aspects of the "OCT". And pretending that "nobody has done it before", in full knowledge that this is a lie, goes on to this day, as you have seen. They should know that it doesn't work with me, but they do it anyway because it's all they have and at least it makes people like you and dafydd think i'm running away from a genuine challenge. Same old, same old.

These days i'm mostly active in other parts of the forum and only come here to visit my old duhbunkie buddies when I see something interesting in the "new posts" list. In this thread I participate because Mackey had me fooled, too. And I really don't like getting fooled. He was my favorite debunker for some years.

I don't know your history...all I know is what I've seen to this point.

But, generally, after whittling through the wordy BS, here's what I see when you enter a thread:

Poster: There is no evidence of "X".
CE: It doesn't matter, you won't admit your wrong anyway.
Poster: Tell me why I'm wrong.
CE: I don't feel like it.

You complain about tactics, but your's are some of the most childish I've seen. I'm given the impression you never intend to do anything here other than balloon your post count.

For the record, I don't believe you. I don't believe you have a theory, hypothesis, story, etc...and if you do, you won't reveal it because you know it won't stand up in any factual debate. Calling it "feeding the debunkers" if that makes you feel better. But blurting out that "the LIHOP has been proven" and similar garbage filling statements and then refusing to back them up makes you look like a coward at best.
 
I'm here since before this subforum was created, Sabretooth. I have participated in many threads on factual topics, and I know the players in this subforum inside out. Many of them don't deserve the slightest respect.
Don't excuse you being childlike and petulant.

The "tell us your theory" nonsense is an age old routine tactic here and done to everybody who dares to question even little aspects of the "OCT".
That's basic debating, not some kind of trick. If you claim to have a theory, why not post it and let it be criticized? It's like trying to play a poker game without letting anyone else see your cards; people are going to think you're cheating.

And pretending that "nobody has done it before", in full knowledge that this is a lie, goes on to this day, as you have seen. They should know that it doesn't work with me, but they do it anyway because it's all they have and at least it makes people like you and dafydd think i'm running away from a genuine challenge. Same old, same old.
You are. They challenge you to produce a theory you claim you have, you BS about how you don't have to. Same old, same old.
 
How can one claim LIHOP while at the same time believing the plane flew over the Pentagon and landed at Reagan? While making it happen they let it happen? I just don't get it.

The thought processes,such as they are,of truthers are difficult to follow.
 
Show some guts and talk to me directly, Mackey. Tell me that my statement above is wrong and you started this rocket science challenge with open outcome. If you do so, i'll deliver something new and insightful.

Show some guts and tell us the details of your hypothesis. Perhaps you could team up with Java Man. He seems to be stuck.
 
I'm here since before this subforum was created, Sabretooth. I have participated in many threads on factual topics, and I know the players in this subforum inside out. Many of them don't deserve the slightest respect. The "tell us your theory" nonsense is an age old routine tactic here and done to everybody who dares to question even little aspects of the "OCT". And pretending that "nobody has done it before", in full knowledge that this is a lie, goes on to this day, as you have seen. They should know that it doesn't work with me, but they do it anyway because it's all they have and at least it makes people like you and dafydd think i'm running away from a genuine challenge. Same old, same old.

These days i'm mostly active in other parts of the forum and only come here to visit my old duhbunkie buddies when I see something interesting in the "new posts" list. In this thread I participate because Mackey had me fooled, too. And I really don't like getting fooled. He was my favorite debunker for some years.

Nice footwork. No theory.
 
Don't worry guys, I already debunked CE's hypothesis in the spirit realm where it resides. I just don't want to tell anyone about it.
 
For the record, I don't believe you. I don't believe you have a theory, hypothesis, story, etc...and if you do, you won't reveal it because you know it won't stand up in any factual debate. Calling it "feeding the debunkers" if that makes you feel better. But blurting out that "the LIHOP has been proven" and similar garbage filling statements and then refusing to back them up makes you look like a coward at best.


Ok. Frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not, or what I look like you you. I was talking to Mackey and he knows what i'm talking about. Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven. On the Pentagon you can read here, where you'll find over 350 posts of mine. Have fun. And think about who you associate with.
 
What CE doesn't get, and will never get, is that debating has two sides. Sometimes one side wins...sometimes there is no "winner".

If I had a theory on a subject...any subject...I wouldn't be afraid to post it. From there I would defend or concede points where the facts and evidence lead. I've done that in any debate I've had, including those here in JREF.

My perception is that CE doesn't want to be shown that he/she is wrong, period. Being wrong means...well...I don't know. What is so bad about being wrong? Why relate yourself as a "truther" when you want no part of the "real" truth? Why sit in your corner and pout? It's a freakin' internet forum! Who gives a **** if you're right or wrong? I joined JREF to find the facts, not postulate some preconceived delusion. If I'm wrong, tell me I'm wrong, so I can get it right going forward.

But if you think "tell me I'm wrong" is going to fly without facts, evidence, science, experience, and/or real life, that is just ridiculous. Taking for granted that someone should listen to your opinion "just because" makes you the deluded one, not me, pal.


Zero substance, zero evidence = zero credibility. You made your bed...etc...
 
Ok. Frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not, or what I look like you you. I was talking to Mackey and he knows what i'm talking about.

I know you don't care. This is an anonymous internet forum.

Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven.
I'm not wading through 6 pages of long winded garbage. You want to make a point, you are going to have to gimme the crib notes.

On the Pentagon you can read here, where you'll find over 350 posts of mine.

tl;dr
 
Ok. Frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not, or what I look like you you. I was talking to Mackey and he knows what i'm talking about. Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven. On the Pentagon you can read here, where you'll find over 350 posts of mine. Have fun. And think about who you associate with.

Interesting LIHOP thread. You cannot say that it is proven, though, as that would require the actors admitting their intentions, but most psychologically normal people should be suspicious.
 
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... , i'll deliver something new and insightful.
When? Soon?



... Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven. ...
paloalto makes up fiction about 911, lies. ? lol, you believe the moronic claptrap conclusions he makes up from his cut and paste nonsense? Go ahead take this to the FBI, or CBS, break the big news paloalto makes up fictional claims about 911. What a story.


... On the Pentagon you can read here, where you'll find over 350 posts of mine. Have fun. And think about who you associate with.
Flight 77 was not on a different flight path, the OP failed, CIT failed. CIT have no evidence. More lies. Did you fail to take this to the authorities too?

When is the new insightful stuff coming? never
 
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And think about who you associate with.

Wow, this coming from someone that belongs to a lunatic fringe cult, infested with dishonest idiots, paranoid delusional freaks, Jooo haters and such. Who run around internet forums and such and give out crap on street corners, constantly trying to recruit and claiming everything and everyone is out to get them because they alone (like every other cult) have "the truuuuth"... LOL

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Damn it, there goes another irony meter blown...
 
Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven.
You have no posts on the first page of that thread.

From reading its first post, I assume you're saying that the following allegation has been "proven":
The documents at the Moussaoui trial also show that the FBI HQ agents who shut down this FBI criminal investigation of Mihdhar and Hazmi knew full well that they were acting illegally to criminally obstruct this investigation, and knew that their criminal actions would allow the al Qaeda terrorists to murder thousands of Americans.
To my knowledge, that allegation has not been "proven".
 
Ok. Frankly, I don't care if you believe me or not, or what I look like you you. I was talking to Mackey and he knows what i'm talking about. Here you can read about what I meant with the LIHOP part being proven. On the Pentagon you can read here, where you'll find over 350 posts of mine. Have fun. And think about who you associate with.

Why do truthers always get so narky? Frustration that almost nobody takes them seriously?
 
Why do truthers always get so narky? Frustration that almost nobody takes them seriously?

How would you feel if 90% of people thought you and your ideas were irrelevant and retarded? They must get immune to the constant rolling of eyes.
 

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