The PROPHET YAHWEH, Maker of UFO's

[KRAMER]

Kramer, what are you thoughts on what I just posted? I'd love an expert's opinion.

Then ask Randi. I've only been doing this for 18 months.

Randi's the expert.

 

[Azrael]

Then ask Randi. I've only been doing this for 18 months.

Randi's the expert.

Randi, wherever you are, what do you think?
I wouldn't mind getting anyone else's opinion either though.

edit: I need to learn propper English...

 

[Beady]

On the right hand side of the frame however you see the unidentified flying object jumping upwards in the sky and back again. This happens almost instantaneously (or at very high speed).

Yeah, you're right, and no, I can't explain it. However, like the dog that didn't bark in the night time, I direct your attention to the curious remarks these guys make about the jumping UFO.

 

[KRAMER]

Go to the Applications thread, people.

Just go. Go there NOW.

 

[The Mighty Thor]

Just how crazy (and potentially dangerous) is this guy?

I know that there are two meanings to 'blown away', but I'd be concerned by his statement:

If Randi comes out here, he is going to be blown away!

Check the dude out carefully Kramer.

 

[Azrael]

I direct your attention to the curious remarks these guys make about the jumping UFO.

The guys in the video you mean? Yes, what they say doesn't make much sense in relation to what is shown at that moment in the video.

However, the audio part of the footage doesn't IMO have much significance since parts of it are voiced over by the reporter afterwards and I wouldn't be surprised if much of the comments are not exactly in their original time frame in relation to the video. Maybe even some cut and paste in the audio.

The jumping object in the video on the other hand, is much less likely to be a case of cut and paste because the rest of the shot looks unedited. Since everything else (the pole with the lights, the cloud, the sky etc.) in that shot is continous it would require a very local and very deliberate attempt at forgery (or a really peculiar/unlikely glich).

Go to the Applications thread, people.

Just go. Go there NOW.

That email is nothing remarkable for him. Having subscribed to his mailing list for 'news' I already know his insanity has no limits...

 

[jmercer]

Go to the Applications thread, people.

Just go. Go there NOW.

Now I'm having trouble deciding if he's a fraud or a nutcase. Or both. Sheesh!

But I think Thor has a good point - might be appropriate to have a cop or two around for "crowd control", especially if they stick near this guy...

 

[Beady]

The guys in the video you mean? Yes, what they say doesn't make much sense in relation to what is shown at that moment in the video.

No, no, no. "The curious incident of the dog that didn't bark in the night time" is a fairly famous reference to an incident in one of the Sherlock Holmes accounts ("Silver Blaze," specifically). The guard dog did not bark when it clearly should have, the implication being that the crime didn't occur the way it appeared on the surface.

In the video, the incident you are asking about, if it truly occured as seems seems apparent, would have caused a major "WTF" reaction from everyone present. Yet, it did not. It therefore seems probable that what appears to happen on film did not happen outside the camera.

Further than that I can't go. Like you, I hope someone else can pick it up from there.

 

[Gayle]

Duelling Conjurers

I can't comment on what's in the video. But I do have an opinion about this whole application. Just an opinion.

1. Randi recognizes a whizbang act with built-in publicity when he sees it.

2. It's right there in Las Vegas, ready for TAM4. Duelling conjurers. I personally love it. I was not considering attendting TAM, not even for a moment. That's changed. This sounds like so much fun I want to be there.

3. When it comes to conjuring and a good show, Randi knows what he's doing.

4. Let's let him do it, without asking him or Kramer to reveal their hands or what they know about these kinds of tricks. As it says in Conjurer's Corner, "NOT TO INCLUDE THE DISCLOSING OF SECRETS." Randi has more secrets up his sleeve than we can guess.

5. You can bet that Mr. Yehweh is reading this forum. Please take that into consideration. It would be good if he did not find a reason to back out of his tests scheduled for TAM4. Perhaps too much ridicule or too much revelation might insult the aliens who control the spaceships. Understand?

6. Randi, through Kramer, has made it clear that he has taken a personal interest in this application. He wants the tests to take place at TAM4. Let's support Randi in achieving his goal.

When Kramer first said he did not think this was an application worthy of serious consideration, I agreed with him. I haven't changed my mind. However, Randi wants to move ahead and that's all right with me.

Let's all have fun and let's hope it leads to a good time for all at TAM4. Maybe I'll even see you there, thanks to Prophet Yahweh.


Gayle

 

[Beleth]

Just one comment.

The only timeframe Mr. Yahweh has mentioned is the pre-July 15, 2005 timeframe, whereas the only timeframe the JREF has agreed to is the TAM4 January, 2006 timeframe.

It might behoove the JREF to make sure that there is no confusion on this point - that nothing produced before TAM4 will count towards either test of the Challenge.

 

[SezMe]

Re: Duelling Conjurers

I was not considering attendting TAM, not even for a moment. That's changed. This sounds like so much fun I want to be there.

MEGA dittos. This is exactly where I am at.

 

[deathphoenix]

Mr. Yahweh need not worry. The folks at JREF, and Mr. Randi in particular, want to see this test carried out to its final conclusion, and I doubt any teams of Enemies can disuade them from this course of action.

 

[Hitch]

Go to the Applications thread, people.

Just go. Go there NOW.

Yes. Anyone reading this forum needs to avoid harrassing or intimidating Mr. Yahweh. We want this test to happen. I have great faith that Randi will make sure this test happenning is much better than anything that can come from Mr. Yahweh backing out.

 

[princhester]

Of course we'll agree to his request that no one smoke pot or drink whiskey with beer chasers or kick out the jams while he's doing his "summoning".

How are you going to enforce this? Isn't this just likely to give him an "out"?

 

[chillzero]

Yes. Anyone reading this forum needs to avoid harrassing or intimidating Mr. Yahweh. We want this test to happen. I have great faith that Randi will make sure this test happenning is much better than anything that can come from Mr. Yahweh backing out.

I agree.
And I had actually been thinking about this kind of response being probable when I read the entries from Mr 'Noweh'.

I understand the desire to uncover frauds, and people can be quite heated about it, but in this case I think it should all be kept as cool and civil as possible to ensure nothing external to the test jeapordises it.

I would hate to see Prophet Yaweh being able to refuse to put himself at risk, in attending an intimidating venue. He needs to feel that everything is being done to keep his safety in mind, and that he is handled with respect.

 

[Beth]

Just one comment.

The only timeframe Mr. Yahweh has mentioned is the pre-July 15, 2005 timeframe, whereas the only timeframe the JREF has agreed to is the TAM4 January, 2006 timeframe.

It might behoove the JREF to make sure that there is no confusion on this point - that nothing produced before TAM4 will count towards either test of the Challenge.

I disagree. If this guy can actually produce a verifiable alien spaceship at any time, I think that ought to qualify as passing the preliminary.


Beth

 

[Hitch]

I disagree. If this guy can actually produce a verifiable alien spaceship at any time, I think that ought to qualify as passing the preliminary.


Beth

Well, actually, his ability is to summon UFOs. Just pointing to one that happened to show up wouldn't qualify.

You wouldn't accept a rainmaker that tried to take credit for any old hurricane that happened. He'd need proof that he was responsible for the hurricane. (Of course, if he could, the insurance companies would probably end up with his million dollars.)

 

[Azrael]

No one else want to comment on what I mentioned about the video? Is everyone at a loss for words or what?

Or should I better post it somewhere else?

 

[edjunior]

I see it as a non issue concerning Prophet Yahwehs claims and the testing to take place in Jan of 2006.

If all of his videos would seem to have the "ufo" hopping around like that, than I would start feeling more concerned.

Ed

 

[Sujay]

Yes I have to agree with edjunior on Azrael's observations. The shot that you mentioned Azrael, is NOT a continous shot. It is two to three different shots put together, with Yahweh's voice added at the backdrop later. This is often done in editing newsclips. It could also be that it was a hitch while recording, when the camera froze for a second or so. In most likeliness, it seems to be a "video editing" job, done by the news crew to save some time.

BTW edjunior, your Prophet NOweh video was HILARIOUS!! LOL, you are a genial mimic, and I haven't had such a laugh in quite a while. I really recommend everyone to see that video :

http://wjrr.com/timages/page/media/prophetnoweh.wmv


As for Yahweh, I don't think he could get too popular. Atleast in America. I joined his official Yahoo club, where he, among other things claims that "Jesus was a homosexual", and apparently so are all Christian priests. Why so? Well, the Gospels contain statements made by Jesus to his disciples such as :

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another."

So he percieves this "love", to be a different kind of "love". He's also cited some other silly proof. And since most Christian priests follow his example of ummm "spreading the love", he believes that most Christian priests are homosexuals/child molesters.

Also, his clearly nutty wife, believes in polygamy, and it trying to start a movement trying to legalize it, and among things believes that African-Americans, were the "original Israelites" mentioned in the Bible!

These controversial views will make him the enemy of Christians in America. But he still will have a following.