The PROPHET YAHWEH, Maker of UFO's

[Beady]

Also, his clearly nutty wife ... among things believes that African-Americans, were the "original Israelites" mentioned in the Bible!

This is part of Afrocentrism and it's been around for a while.

These controversial views will make him the enemy of Christians in America. But he still will have a following.

It has failed to catch on in 50 or so years. Compare this with virtually any other intellectual movement, such as Christianity, Islam, Communism, National Socialism or Evolution.

For one thing, it has an extremely limited audience and, for another, it's ultimate message is one of frustration. Even if it were all true; it offers no remedies. The other movements either appealed to a wide audience or offered a remedy, or both.

Yes, Mr Prophet will always have a following, but so will John Edward and Uri Geller. Of the three, I think Yahweh is a very minor player.

 

[Francois Tremblay]

Sujay : In OT8, L. Ron Hubbard says that "Jesus" was a homosexual AND a pedophile, but that doesn't seem to rile Christians up much. I doubt anyone will pay attention to this Yahweh nutjob.

 

[Donn]

Oh cool: UFO's and Vegas ! I just have to summon the Pixies...

"I was driving doing nothing on the shores of Great Salt Lake
when they put it on the air I put it in the hammer lane
I soon forgot mysesf and I forgot about the brake
I forgot all laws and I forgot about the rain
They were talking on the 9 and all across the amy band
across the road they were turning around and headed south with me
it got so crowded on the road I started driving in the sand
my head was feeling scared but my heart was feeling free
the desert turned to mud it seems that everybody heard
everybody was remembering to forget they had the chills
then I heard the voices on a broadcast from up on the bird
they were getting interviewed by some good man whose name was Bill
I'm almost there to Vegas where they're puttin' on a show
they've come so far I've lived this long at least I must just go and say
hello."

Then the guitars go "Wooo woo wooo wooo"

 

[Sujay]

I am quite confused about this prophet. Is he a trickster or is he a deluded individual?

In his Yahoo group, he has been courageous enough to admit that his doctor has diagnosed him to be schizophrenic. Though he seems to be confused about his mental condition himself, he tends not to agree with his doctor. Nevertheless, he has admitted that he is on medicine at the moment.

If this individual were a trickster, why would he want to raise even raise a shadow about his ablities, to his believers?

My guess is that he SHOULD be aware that the UFO we see is a baloon. That this a trick. Yet, to me, this individual seems to COMPLETELY in belief of his capabilities.

Does he just FORGET that he has instructed someone to release the baloons? Is this a case of Multiple Personality Disorder? Or is he just a good actor?

But if he were out to trick people, I just do not get why he would admit to being under treatment for schizophrenia!

 

[Blue Bubble]

I am quite confused about this prophet. Is he a trickster or is he a deluded individual?

First of all, Prophet is his name, not what he is (whatever a prophet might be).

Secondly, he is probably both a trickster and a deluded individual.

Thirdly, the guy is quite simply insane. Seriously insane.

 

[IXP]

First of all, Prophet is his name, not what he is (whatever a prophet might be).

Secondly, he is probably both a trickster and a deluded individual.

Thirdly, the guy is quite simply insane. Seriously insane.

I am not so sure. If he is actually making a living off this charade, then who is insane, Prophet, or the rest of us who actually work for a living?

IXP

 

[TjW]

I am not so sure. If he is actually making a living off this charade, then who is insane, Prophet, or the rest of us who actually work for a living?
IXP

Ewww...
Can you imagine the lifestyle this guy must lead? Hanging out with people gullible enough to be taken in by bombast and scam? Makes me shiver. I'd rather wash dishes.

 

[Beleth]

I wonder how long it would take an average person to see some unknown tiny object in the sky if they really took the time to look.

It would not surprise me at all to find that they happen all the time, but that they usually are too faint or tiny to be visible without really looking hard for them.

 

[jmercer]

It's a good question, Beleth. I imagine that it's not often that people see such things, though, just based on "gut instinct". People look at the sky all the time - kite flyers, bird watchers, military spotters, and so forth - if the appearance of tiny things was common, I'd think we'd hear a lot of continual UFO reports with pictures showing tiny dots.

Strictly a guess on my part, of course.

 

[Gayle]

Tiny White Things in the Sky

During my free time, I enjoy sitting in the garden reading or just relaxing, looking at the sky. I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of free time for fun and relaxation.

On every clear day, I see various size white spots in the sky. UFOs of various sizes. Every sunny day.

The small white spots moving West to East and East to West are commercial airliners travelling between Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and Los Angeles. My house is directly under their daily flight path.

The larger white spots coming in low and travelling in circular directions are smaller private planes approaching our poorly located small airport.

I think.

I don't actually know that for a fact, but that's how I explain the spots. They don't look like airplanes. They look like white spots or colored spots, they twinkle and shine and sometimes the lower flying spots look as if they are standing still. Lights flash in several colors. UFOs!

On cloudy days, I can't see the commercial jets. But without the sunshine, the small planes look exactly like ... small planes. Without bright sunshine, the UFOs become identifiable.

The small local air field is about a mile from my house. It's surrounded by hills and sometimes pilots have to circle several times to get the proper approach to the landing strip.

Unless it's a small jet, the engine noise of a small plane is not detectable over the sound of traffic a half mile away and the river about a third of a mile away.

I even saw one of those secret black government helicopters once. It looked exactly like the ones in the Conspiracy movie with Mel Gibson. It was flying in from the West with the setting sun behind it. As it came close, it suddenly turned into the camo colored National Guard helicopter that's always stationed at the field. What a disappointment!

With the right location and bright sun, the sky is filled with unidentified flying spots. I've never given it a second thought. I live in a valley, surrounded on all sides by hills. Maybe that's what creates the optical illusion. I'm not sure. But I do know that seeing is not believing.


Gayle

 

[Francois Tremblay]

I am not so sure. If he is actually making a living off this charade, then who is insane, Prophet, or the rest of us who actually work for a living?

IXP

No one's insane. Like everyone else, he found a niche and filled it. The only difference is that most skeptics on this board are too dogmatic to appreciate what he does.

 

[Sujay]

First of all, Prophet is his name, not what he is (whatever a prophet might be).

Secondly, he is probably both a trickster and a deluded individual.

Thirdly, the guy is quite simply insane. Seriously insane.

But my question is : Is he aware himself that the UFO's he is seeing are nothing but baloons?

Is he a trickster, trying to fool people? If so, it seems unlikely that he would admit to being treated for schizophrenia, because it might put off many of his believers.

Or is he genuinely deluded, and actually, believes those baloons to be UFOs? This surely cannot be, because I am sure, HE is the one who instructs his accomplice (perhaps his wife), to release the baloons.

Or this is a case where he is trying to fool HIMSELF? (Wherein, one part of him wishes and believes that he is actually a Prophet, and another part actually does these baloon-releasing tricks to keep the other part convinced?)

 

[Beleth]

Or is he genuinely deluded, and actually, believes those baloons to be UFOs? This surely cannot be, because I am sure, HE is the one who instructs his accomplice (perhaps his wife), to release the baloons.

Oooo...

But what if he isn't the one who coordinates the balloon releasing?

What if he has accomplices/followers/whatever who know where he'll be, and release the balloons without his knowledge?

 

[sf108]

Oooo...

But what if he isn't the one who coordinates the balloon releasing?

What if he has accomplices/followers/whatever who know where he'll be, and release the balloons without his knowledge?

So...you're saying there are losers out there that follow this Prophet every hour of the day and release balloons? Wow...must be a great hobby I'm missing out on.

 

[rjh01]

Do you not see? Prophet Yahweh is playing a joke on you all. Of course, they are all balloons. But when the test comes, he will produce two real spaceships full of green people. Then Randi will have to pay up.

But do not despair. The green people will then arrest him for saying there are such things as spaceships and return the money.

 

[delphi_ote]

So...you're saying there are losers out there that follow this Prophet every hour of the day and release balloons? Wow...must be a great hobby I'm missing out on.

As the old Fark cliche quoting the South Park underwear gnomes goes...

Step 1. Follow lunatic around with weather balloons and release them whenever he thinks he is summoning an E.T. spacecraft.

Step 2. ...

Step 3. PROFIT!

 

[Beleth]

So...you're saying there are losers out there that follow this Prophet every hour of the day and release balloons?

It's a hypothesis which fits the data I'm aware of.

Wow...must be a great hobby I'm missing out on.

If it has no downside for for the follower/mastermind - Mr. Yahweh gets to play the patsy, and you are blocks away with no incriminating evidence on you - then it can become just another way to pay the bills for a few months, to a person with the right mindset.

Or maybe it's because I just got finished reading a political-intriguey book and that always makes me see conspiracy theories everywhere.

 

[john_v_h]

Ewww...
Can you imagine the lifestyle this guy must lead? Hanging out with people gullible enough to be taken in by bombast and scam?

It must be rather like living at the White House.

 

[Jekyll]

Oooo...

But what if he isn't the one who coordinates the balloon releasing?

What if he has accomplices/followers/whatever who know where he'll be, and release the balloons without his knowledge?

Maybe there should be free weather balloons for everyone attending the amazing meeting?

 

[Blue Bubble]

Free weather balloons

Maybe everyone at the actual test should take a bunch of weather balloons, and a bit before your man looks like he's about to start his incantations to summon the UFOs, start releasing them. Just imagine what Mr Yahweh's reaction to that would be ... hee hee.

Oh what fun !