The Oldest Religious Structures & Ancient Aliens?

MG1962 said:
One has to wonder how in 1000 years - Shuttle launches will be viewed
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No clue.
I hope they will look back and say things like 'Wow! they went into space in those? They must have been brave!'
What I hope does not happen is something like 'We cannot explain how those rockets could get into space, therefore .... aliens!'
 
edge said:
Plus is dowsing relevant to this discussion?
I can tie it with what Zecharia Sitchin and Erich von Däniken have written about, so yes, but it will be a long read.
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No Zecharia Sitchin! I have not even finished my morning tea.
Do we really have to pay attention to the 12th planet nonsense?
It's already been proven many, many times that he had no idea what he was talking about.
For instance, if aliens did talk to those ancient people, why did they not explain that the sun and moon were not planets?
If the aliens did teach moons are planets why are there not 175 of them?
 
Akhenaten said:
Which people?
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:whistling

wait for it, wait for it,





go on Edge, you're dying to dazzle us with your knowledge of "Sumerian cylinder seals" aren't you

btw you missed out the "Mayan golden aircraft"
:D
 
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edge said:
Up until the 14th century people thought the world was flat.
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No, they didn't.

Your ignorance really is voluminous, isn't it?

ETA: and if you're talking about Columbus, that was the fifteenth century (just like we're now in the 21st century.)
 
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Maddparrot said:
No clue.
I hope they will look back and say things like 'Wow! they went into space in those? They must have been brave!'
What I hope does not happen is something like 'We cannot explain how those rockets could get into space, therefore .... aliens!'
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I was think more of the explosive developement of technology. Astronauts went from pioneering trailblazers to glorified truck drivers in a generation
 
Don't you find all of the arguments, in this video, claiming "religious significance" to be a form of "Arguing from Ignorance"?
 
edge said:
That's right in yellow.
I have worked as a loader with cranes and I seriously can't see them dragging these blocks through sand or even dirt with rollers, I am sure they did but when you get to blocks that are 40 to 400 hundred tons, well I got to wonder?
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Wally Wallington - google is your friend.
 
MG1962 said:
I was think more of the explosive developement of technology. Astronauts went from pioneering trailblazers to glorified truck drivers in a generation
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Oh! I understand now.
I do not know what people of the future will think, but there are people now that think most modern inventions are reverse engineered alien tech.
I don't want to get into that woo, but if you want I can find links to them.
(Still relevant to this thread, I think.)
 
I have worked as a loader with cranes and I seriously can't see them dragging these blocks through sand or even dirt with rollers, I am sure they did but when you get to blocks that are 40 to 400 hundred tons, well I got to wonder?
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This is textbook Argument from Personal Incredulity. edge can't figure it out, therefore goddidit ETdidit. :rolleyes:

Here's the thing, edge--YOU DON"T MOVE STONE BLOCKS BY HAND FOR A LIVING. In caps because it's important to remember that. You use certain technologies, and understand them. You've never had to figure out how to move stone blocks by hand. There's a world of knowledge you've never considered. It's not necessarily bad--we have a finite span, and can't know everything--but you have got to acknowledge the limits of your own understanding. Until you do, you just make yourself look foolish.
 
Edge read the bit about your next attempt on dowsing. If you do submit it prepare to have your application denied... again.
 
edge said:
Up until the 14th century people thought the world was flat.
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Wrong for Europe at least. Since the time of the Greeks and Romans it was accepted that the world was round. Certainly in 900 C.E. (A.D.), it was accepted in Europe and in the middle east that the world was round. In India and China although it did not think of the world as round they didn't think it was flat.

This hoary old myth is getting tiresome.
 
Marduk said:
go on Edge, you're dying to dazzle us with your knowledge of "Sumerian cylinder seals" aren't you

btw you missed out the "Mayan golden aircraft"
:D
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I'm kind of bummed that we haven't been schooled on vimanas yet. :mad:
 
Marduk said:
:whistling

wait for it, wait for it,





go on Edge, you're dying to dazzle us with your knowledge of "Sumerian cylinder seals" aren't you

btw you missed out the "Mayan golden aircraft"
:D
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I posted it a couple of posts back.

The invention fits with the needs caused by the general development of city-states. Inscriptions are mostly carved in reverse, so as to leave a positive image on the clay with figures standing out. Some are directly carved and leave a negative imprint.

Stamp and cylinder seals for identifying ownership of property, and tokens for recording commodities, were other possible sources.

Plus the were also used as dildos.
 

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pakeha asks:

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Up until the 14th century people thought the world was flat. In bold:
There was so much for me to learn about the negative reasons on how to do a fair test that it was time consuming, I should have waited to apply.
It was near the time they rejected me for a new test that I finally figured it out.
The test I did with SezMe was where I finally had it down to a tee.
It was about measuring the effect with a target and with out a target that made it possible and I proved it in a test with him there in northern California I was able to get the correct numbers for a chance.
Up until then I tried many different tests, I tried there since it was there in the field that it worked so well. I tried many ways and I failed to get in a controlled test even close to what it would take.
One negative flaw that the most brilliant of physicists stated was that the force was impossible to measure that stuck in my mind, was it that they over thought it?
I found out that they did.

Here’s a link that will show you what we did.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85571

Plus is dowsing relevant to this discussion?
I can tie it with what Zecharia Sitchin and Erich von Däniken have written about, so yes, but it will be a long read.
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So Columbus thought he was going to sail off the edge of the world?
 
Maddparrot said:
I thought that myth involved Columbus using his voyage to prove the earth was round?
It was the one I heard in school, and in some TV shows.
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Its complicated - Everyone, including Columbus knew the world was round. His argument was its less round than we think. He needed to do that to get funding for the voyage. He knew he would be pushing technology further than was possible at the time. If the America's were not where they where, effectively every member of the expedition would have died.

But............Did Columbus actually discover exactly what he expected to discover?
 
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