The Oklahoma City Bombing Coverup

CptColumbo said:
And they were actual badge carriers. I knew my knowledge of obscure events would come in handy someday.

You know that whole "no ATF agents dying" thing sounds a lot like the "no jews died at the WTC." I'm not saying conspiracybeliever is anti-semitic, I'm saying the tactic would work on the street, or in a bar, because you would not have immediate access to the information.
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BATF Agent Steve Willis was killed at Waco, not OKC, I believe.
 
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The following entries from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol’s radio dispatch logs:

– 10:29 a.m. "There is another bomb on the south side of the bldg. Need to get away as far as possible.... Evacuate the area of the bldg immediately, evacuate the S. side of the bldg immediately."

– 10:33 a.m. "Adv CP [Advise Command Post] we poss [possibly] have another device." "If it is the one on the S. side we have already gb’d [grabbed] it." "Okay." "Did you have anything further beside the one on the S. side?" "Neg [negative]."

– 10:37 a.m. "OC Fire Dept. confirms they did find a second device in the bldg." "O.K." "Cont. [contact] all troopers and have them move all civilian personnel back 1 more block."

– 2:00 p.m. "Unable to contact ATF." "Keep tring [trying] they think they have found another device. Have one of there [sic] people contact HQ48 on the northside of the bld."

• A Forces Command, Fort McPherson, Georgia, log entry for April 19, 1995 at 11:57 a.m. which states: "Two more explosive devices were located vicinity the explosion site. Evidently intended for the rescuers."

• A DoD Atlantic Command memo from Norfolk, Virginia on April 20, 1995, which states: "A second bomb was disarmed, a third bomb was evacuated."

• A Federal Emergency Management Agency Situation Report for April 20, 1995 which reads: "A second and third bomb were located in the building. The second bomb was disarmed and the third bomb was evacuated."
 
conspiracybeliever said:
The following entries from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol’s radio dispatch logs:

– 10:29 a.m. "There is another bomb on the south side of the bldg. Need to get away as far as possible.... Evacuate the area of the bldg immediately, evacuate the S. side of the bldg immediately."

– 10:33 a.m. "Adv CP [Advise Command Post] we poss [possibly] have another device." "If it is the one on the S. side we have already gb’d [grabbed] it." "Okay." "Did you have anything further beside the one on the S. side?" "Neg [negative]."

– 10:37 a.m. "OC Fire Dept. confirms they did find a second device in the bldg." "O.K." "Cont. [contact] all troopers and have them move all civilian personnel back 1 more block."

– 2:00 p.m. "Unable to contact ATF." "Keep tring [trying] they think they have found another device. Have one of there [sic] people contact HQ48 on the northside of the bld."

• A Forces Command, Fort McPherson, Georgia, log entry for April 19, 1995 at 11:57 a.m. which states: "Two more explosive devices were located vicinity the explosion site. Evidently intended for the rescuers."

• A DoD Atlantic Command memo from Norfolk, Virginia on April 20, 1995, which states: "A second bomb was disarmed, a third bomb was evacuated."

• A Federal Emergency Management Agency Situation Report for April 20, 1995 which reads: "A second and third bomb were located in the building. The second bomb was disarmed and the third bomb was evacuated."
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Ah the classic "Post the same mince over and over again in the hope no-one will notice I had my ass spanked on this issue a million times over" response.

Seen it before. Still as boring as ever
 
conspiracybeliever said:
Interesting way you played the race card, comparing me to "anti-semites", whatever that means. I gotta remember that tactic. Oh yea, I know, you weren't comparing me to one. I know. You were just saying, right?:)
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I said you were using the same tactics. "Tell me the names of all six million who died, or they didn't."

Anyway, I know this hardly the evidence you were looking for, but...

I just called the field office in OKC, and asked a couple of questions about the bombing (to clear up some questions I had). The BATF office was in the building (I didn't know for sure). No BATF agents were killed, but they were in the building or nearby at the time. Two were in the office, and the rest were getting coffee, across the street (it was 9:03 am). One secretary was trapped under debris for some time.

The agent I spoke to admits he wasn't with the agency at the time, but has been asked enough questions about it over the years that he is familiar with the BATF's roll in that incident.

BTW it is only a resident agency (not very large) it's division is in Dallas.

You can look them up and call at:
http://www.atf.treas.gov/field/dallas/ok.htm
 
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conspiracybeliever said:
The following entries from the Oklahoma Highway Patrol’s radio dispatch logs:

– 10:29 a.m. "There is another bomb on the south side of the bldg. Need to get away as far as possible.... Evacuate the area of the bldg immediately, evacuate the S. side of the bldg immediately."

– 10:33 a.m. "Adv CP [Advise Command Post] we poss [possibly] have another device." "If it is the one on the S. side we have already gb’d [grabbed] it." "Okay." "Did you have anything further beside the one on the S. side?" "Neg [negative]."

– 10:37 a.m. "OC Fire Dept. confirms they did find a second device in the bldg." "O.K." "Cont. [contact] all troopers and have them move all civilian personnel back 1 more block."

– 2:00 p.m. "Unable to contact ATF." "Keep tring [trying] they think they have found another device. Have one of there [sic] people contact HQ48 on the northside of the bld."

• A Forces Command, Fort McPherson, Georgia, log entry for April 19, 1995 at 11:57 a.m. which states: "Two more explosive devices were located vicinity the explosion site. Evidently intended for the rescuers."

• A DoD Atlantic Command memo from Norfolk, Virginia on April 20, 1995, which states: "A second bomb was disarmed, a third bomb was evacuated."

• A Federal Emergency Management Agency Situation Report for April 20, 1995 which reads: "A second and third bomb were located in the building. The second bomb was disarmed and the third bomb was evacuated."
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As Manny said Gravy responded

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1569591&postcount=110

Now you get to respond, see how it works?
 
I'll respond for him.
You people are such simpletons. All that "evidence" you presented just means that the 4 bomb squads, hundreds of rescue workers, Controlled Demolitions, Inc., and local, state and federal investigators were in on the conspiracy. Do I really have to post my links again?

p.s. Can someone be a guest on my podcast?
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Belz... said:
You underestimate explosives, my friend.
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conspiracybeliever also fudged the bomb sizes. The University of Wisconsin bomb was 2,000LB ANFO bomb, the Murrah building bomb was, according to FEMA 4,000-5,000LBS ANFO bomb, which had the destructive capacity of 20,000LBS of TNT according to globalsecurity.org.

I have pointed this out to him several times, he has yet to respond.
 
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