The Oklahoma City Bombing Coverup

fowlsound said:
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Originally Posted by Huntster :
In Oklahoma. Moussaoui was reportedly trying to hack into the University of Oklahoma system by using Berg's email.
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To what end? What does the University of Oaklahoma have on its "system" that is of need to Moussaoui? What information did he need that isn't readily available to the public?

2) It's a public university. Chances are there are much easier ways to get onto the computer network than attempting to "hack an email account."

3) How exactly do you hack into a large WAN of a university by using an email account? At best it gives you access to simply an email account.

The contention is specious for two reasons:

1) Knowing a bit about computer/network security it seems implausible anyone would attempt to access information from a network such as OU by using an email account.

2) There's no need to hack anything. There is no conceivable information that isn't publicly available otherwise or easily obtained by walking to the university's library or computer lab.
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You may be right. Note I wrote "reportedly" to hack into the university system.

But it may have been much simpler.............

Like, buy a plane ticket under a name that wouldn't raise flags with the FBI......

....And there are many other unanswered questions about Oklahoma City's terror ties.

Who was the man at the OU library, who purchased a ticket for the official Sep11th hijackers?

In the fall of 2001, INN Correspondent Michael P. Wright, was talking to an OU library employee who told him that she was present when an FBI agent was interviewing her colleague. From this encounter she learned that an OU library computer terminal had been used for an online purchase of an airline ticket for a 9/11 hijacker who was on the plane which crashed in Pennsylvania.....
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Huntster said:
You may be right. Note I wrote "reportedly" to hack into the university system.

But it may have been much simpler.............

Like, buy a plane ticket under a name that wouldn't raise flags with the FBI......
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Which terrorist was that purchased for, was the plane ticket for one of the 9/11 flights? Were there any indications this terminal was anything but one fo the public terminals available in the library or computer lab? Is there independant verifacation of this other than that news report?

It would seem if Moussouoi lived in Oaklahoma and needed a public computer to do work difficult to trace the university is a good choice. That someone used it isn't evidence of anyone at the university being complicit in the conspiracy. What account login was used on that machine when it was purchased? Does the University keep those records in log files on teh server?

This seems like a game of telephone casting suspicion but no real evidence of anythiing other than a computer terminal being used (reportedly) to purchase a plane ticket.
 
I found a link anyway. It's Bush Sr's resignation letter to the NRA in which he names two agents who died at OKC. Steve Willis of the BATF and Al Whicher of the Secret Service.

http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Books a ... e%20Bush's%20Letter%20to%20NRA

You won't believe some of the white supremecist garbage I had to look at to find it. Including Holocaust deniers. Ugh.
 
Gravy said:
Gee, the U.S. sure has been busy blowing up buildings from the inside while pretending to blow them up from the outside.

Look at all that messy debris in the streets! Don't the conspirators know that cleanliness is next to wooness?

U.S. Embassy, Beirut, Lebanon

Marine Barracks, Beirut Lebanon

Khobar, Saudi Arabia

Colombo, Sri Lanka

Istanbul. Turkey

Volgodonsk, Russia

Gurlanova, Russia

Nairobi, Kenya

People, Roxdog (conspiracybeliever) is a troll who doesn't have any arguments, just links. I do feel bad for him, though. He seems to have a medical condition that prevents him from typing more than a sentence or two. Respond to him if you will, but don't expect anything more than links in return.
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Here is a BBC article, with some pictures of the result of the 1996 bombing near South Quay in London. That was a "half-tonne" bomb (no idea what that'd be in poundage and can't say I know what explosive was used, but it was probably some sort of nitrate and petroleum job, that's what the IRA was hot for).
 
Bikewer said:
I'm not familiar with the radio traffic from the concerned police units in this case, but being in the biz myself it is standard procedure to be aware of, and to check for "secondary" (and even tertiary) explosives, designed specifically to cause casualties among first responders and rescue personel.

Traffic from commanders to be aware of or to search for additional "devices" would have been standard operating procedure, and may, to the layman, have sounded like evidence that there were, in fact, such devices.
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Absolutely, that is the SOP in London, too. Check the area you're evacuating to, don't have the RVP for emergency services in the obvious place, search the RVP, if in doubt about an object treat it as a bomb. We do have some experience in these matters...

Hey, look at the roof on this building - must have been blown up from the inside!
 
Dragon said:
Absolutely, that is the SOP in London, too. Check the area you're evacuating to, don't have the RVP for emergency services in the obvious place, search the RVP, if in doubt about an object treat it as a bomb. We do have some experience in these matters...
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Lets not count our chickens Dragon. How long will it be till we see the famous picture of the double decker blown up on 7/7 being subjected to the same "analysis" by Loose Change and the like...?
 
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Don't doubt it. I've already seen them call the USS Cole an inside job. I haven't specifically seen them address the embassy bombings or Madrid or Bali or Dhahran or any of the other suspected al Qaeda attacks. Perhaps someone should ask.
 
Dragon said:
Absolutely, that is the SOP in London, too. Check the area you're evacuating to, don't have the RVP for emergency services in the obvious place, search the RVP, if in doubt about an object treat it as a bomb. We do have some experience in these matters...
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What does RVP stand for?
 
CptColumbo said:
I found a link anyway. It's Bush Sr's resignation letter to the NRA in which he names two agents who died at OKC. Steve Willis of the BATF and Al Whicher of the Secret Service.

http://www.hoboes.com/pub/Firearms/Books a ... e%20Bush's%20Letter%20to%20NRA

You won't believe some of the white supremecist garbage I had to look at to find it. Including Holocaust deniers. Ugh.
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Good find that.
 
J. Arthur Hastur said:
Good find that.
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And they were actual badge carriers. I knew my knowledge of obscure events would come in handy someday.

You know that whole "no ATF agents dying" thing sounds a lot like the "no jews died at the WTC." I'm not saying conspiracybeliever is anti-semitic, I'm saying the tactic would work on the street, or in a bar, because you would not have immediate access to the information.
 
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I'll really take my hat off to you if roxdog/conspiracybeliever actually owns up to your facts, he's ignored all the other facts so far.
 
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