Moderated The NYPD and Molten Concrete

yankee451 said:
It's a tough position to be in, I know.

So were the fires hot enough to melt concrete or not?
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You should open a new thread with a poll on that :)


I think you will find that pretty damned near 100% of all here who would self-identify as "debunkers" (or whatever label you prefer) think that indeed there was no molten concrete, nor bulk amounts of molten steel; and neither was ever "flowing like lava" on 9/11.
 
yankee451 said:
I didn't put up a stinking museum exhibit, the police did that - you'd think THEIR lab analysis would be enough for you.
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Can you cite the lab results for us? Are they published anywhere?

Do they exist?

Is this in evidence?
 
Perhaps truthers have confused the 'plane crashes with seeing the concrete being poured when the TwinTowers were built?
 
Wow. Yankee posts a ramble, and his reply to criticism is that we did not address his "evidence" - What Evidence???????
 
yankee451 said:
Sure - if I were to make such an "innocent" mistake, you'd be just as forgiving. ...
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It looked like it was melted. You know what a simile is? Is that covered in the School of Hard Knocks, aka, Google U.?

You sure do include a lot of BS with your failed OP. Looks like you have a lot of hate. You sound like McVeigh.
 
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Where, in any of the official reports and investigations does it say that there was molten steel or molten concrete?
 
yankee451 said:
Mine is in my own words, but despite all these threads, you still can't address the evidence.
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what's this word "evidence" that you keep using.

I know the meaning of the word, but not in the way that you appear to be using it.

ETA - and no, it's not in your own words at all. It's regurgitations from 5-6 years ago. Please catch up.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Where, in any of the official reports and investigations does it say that there was molten steel or molten concrete?
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Where are the official records period; and why would the NY Police Museum make a statement that "Fire temperatures were so intense that concrete melted like lava"? Don't they "do physics"? Don't they "do science"?

Its obvious they were piling-on with the whole "molten metal" meme that was being spread about by the fire department and the police. It doesn't take a forensic scientist to notice that most people still believe the B.S. about intense fires burning for months after 9/11, but now no one has any proof to sustain that nonsense, it was all an officially propagated rumor. There's your official record for you.
 
yankee451 said:
Where are the official records period; and why would the NY Police Museum make a statement that "Fire temperatures were so intense that concrete melted like lava"? Don't they "do physics"? Don't they "do science"?

Its obvious they were piling-on with the whole "molten metal" meme that was being spread about by the fire department and the police. It doesn't take a forensic scientist to notice that most people still believe the B.S. about intense fires burning for months after 9/11, but now no one has any proof to sustain that nonsense, it was all an officially propagated rumor. There's your official record for you.
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lol, 11 years of fail

You hate police, you like Rodney King, and don't like FDNY. What is new?

Fires did burn for months, because there were over 220 acres of office material in less than 19 acres below.

No official reports said there was melted steel, or melted concrete; are you using your silly quote-mining effort to spew hate and nonsense on the firefighter, police and others? You seem full of hate like McVeigh, against authority. Why do you hate firefighters, police and your own government?

Is this your own hate thread? What is your point?
 
Side question: How long do trolls last before Mods make them go away?

Yanker, where were YOU on 9/11/2001? If you were in Manhattan, and saw the attacks with your own eyes, great. If not, you're a liar.

You demonstrate why Troofers are the worst of the conspiracy loons. You start with a premise that has nothing to do with anything, then use the failed premise to construct a theory that gets worse the more you write.

You have no clue how the police work. This lack of basic knowledge is amplified when you talk about a large department like the NYPD. So let me clue you in on the basics:

1. Nobody kills a cop and gets away with it. Everyone wearing a badge, or who used to wear a badge makes it their mission to catch the d-bag and make them scream.

2. Nobody kills 23 NYPD, and 37 Port Authority cops and gets away with it. NOBODY. There is no cabal, agency, or Army that will make the NYPD turn their backs on their fallen.

3. The larger the police department, the larger role politics comes into play, and for each step in the command structure there are dozens of cops who want those jobs just waiting for the cop behind that desk to screw up. Read the NY Times and you see a department that leaks like a sieve.

Couple #3 with #2 and the FACT is it would have been impossible for anyone inside NYPD to have faked any part of their end of the investigation.

The NYPD has its share of problems, but catching bad-guys has never been one of them. They have an intelligence unit that rivals our national intelligence agencies, and those of other countries. It is the single reason ALL of the 9/11 conspiracies are lies, because if anything had not gone the way the official story says it did, the NYPD would be leading the charge with the (actual) truth.

We do not come to the JREF for "truth", we come here for the facts.

You don't have any.
 
yankee451 said:
Where are the official records period; and why would the NY Police Museum make a statement that "Fire temperatures were so intense that concrete melted like lava"? Don't they "do physics"? Don't they "do science"?
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Are you suggesting "they" do physics?
Are you suggesting "they" do science?
Well, then show us the physics and the science they have done on those museum exhibits!
Where is the lab report?

yankee451 said:
Its obvious they were piling-on with the whole "molten metal" meme that was being spread about by the fire department and the police.
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It's a meme.
Not a fact.
Learn the difference!

yankee451 said:
It doesn't take a forensic scientist to notice that most people still believe the B.S. about intense fires burning for months after 9/11, but now no one has any proof to sustain that nonsense, it was all an officially propagated rumor. There's your official record for you.
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Good you noticed this Truther meme is just a meme, not a fact.
Although, actually, it's some fact spun by Truthers (not official onvestigators) into a stupid meme.

Of course you had fires burning long after 9/11.
What's "intense"? Judgement call, eh?
Underground fires. Don't melt steel, don't melt concrete.
And neither the NYPD nor the FDNY claim they did.
Where is your evidence that these memes were "an officially propagated rumor"? Citation?
What does "official" mean in your world, anyway?
 
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