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The Name Jesus = 666?

Kimpatsu said:

No, it was implied. When you give it, it's implying. When you take it, it's inferring.
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Okay, so what about the implications to you inferrence? The excerpt below is from Chapter 6 of my book by the way ...


CHAPTER 13, VERSE 18: "Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is six hundred threescore and six." This verse refers to the false prophet and his number, which is 666. And indeed I had a very unusual experience on January 18, 1990. It was in the morning as I lay in bed, and I had just fallen back asleep, when I was startled and roused awake. A red swastika, within an orange circle, was staring me in the face! And although I didn't sense anything sinister about it, it was bold and remained a few seconds before dissipating.

74 Though the swastika has been equated with the Nazis, it was originally a Greek cross, with four equal sides. While at the time I equated it with the Church of Smyrna, the second church or church of false doctrine (what I equate with Roy Masters' church and speak of in chapters 11, 12 and 13). And so illustrates how the Church of Smyrna is not grounded in its wisdom: i.e., with all sides being equal no side is grounded, and yet an extension is to be made, so all receive the same extension, hence forming a swastika. This is contrasted with the Church of Philadelphia, and the earlier version of the cross and the number 34.

75 The swastika isn't necessarily bad, for to the Greeks it was a good luck symbol. Perhaps it corresponds to a man's will (2), before he's engaged to be married (6), thus alluding to my experience in chapter 12, which occurred shortly after my 34th birthday. But certainly this wasn't the case with the Nazis! "... where no one could buy or sell, except he who had the mark of the beast." ~ Revelation 13:17 I give a more significant example of this verse in chapter 13.
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By the way, are you familiar with the Godwin's law?
 
Iacchus said:
Okay, so what about the implications to you inferrence?
By the way, are you familiar with the Godwin's law?
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Godwin's Law states that whoever first compares the opposition in a debate to the Nazi loses. What's your point?
Don't confuse the ramifications of an inference (note spelling!) with implying something.
 
Kimpatsu said:

Godwin's Law states that whoever first compares the opposition in a debate to the Nazi loses. What's your point?
Don't confuse the ramifications of an inference (note spelling!) with implying something.
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Just want to make sure we understand who brought it up first, that's all. :p
 
"Most people, I believe, think that you need a God to explain the existence of the world, and especially the existence of life. They are wrong, but our education system is such that many people don't know it. "--Richard Dawkins
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Well no one can argue that we all exist.

Well maybe....

But....

It might be that Science will explain, and that science is in fact tool which god uses to 'explain' existence of life.

The existence of life is indisputable. what causes conflict is the various reasons for life existing.

And Science is not about giving reason for existence of life. other than saying that 'this' cause created 'this' effect.

Which only gives a physical account of life, rather than a reason.

A reason for life is an individual thing.

This is where personal power come into play.

Some don;t need reason for life - it is enought that they are experiencing a life.

others need a reason in order to feel purpose and often this may equate to contributing personal energy to the fact of life, in order to assist it along to something other than extinction of life.

Still others need an Intelligent Designer of Life, and then attribute 'reasons' why this designer decide to create the universe.

Still others take advantage of gullibility and fear and uncertainty to promote their personal bank balances.

Oh well...Life is not only a reality, it is real humor - with the addition of emotions which create states of mind which fail to see the humor because of the conflict and general bad arsed behaviour form all sorts of individuals.

individuals who don;t see the humor...

But there is another side to this 'life' -

Science doen't see the humor either does it?

Well maybe there is a branch of science studing the branch of life which is humor...

Then again "life" is not limited to our globular shores....and thus might not have much to do with how we see life from this particualr sphere a floating and a speeding through the cosmos...

It might actually be much more expanded an awareness elsewhere...assuming of course that 'we' are not alone.

That their are 'other' biological life bearing planets somewhere else in the awesomely expansive Universe.

And that these other life experiences might even differ totally to how the drama is unfolding on our own planet.

But until we each get our own personal alien to disect, I guess our science remains oblivous to speculation and imagination. Just cold hard facts if you please.

Science is god in this fashion - in it's own box. but god nonetheless.

:)

Thou shalt be no gods which science cannot measure and proclaim prooved.

Thus spake science...and it is so.

ho ho and ho.

:)
 
Doctor X said:
Beats a god who demands child sacrifice.

--J.D.
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Ya no humor in that I 'spose - but then again...science does offer abortion.

But this is not directly attributed to the command of some diety, but rather the personal decision of those involved....and of course someone gets paid handsomly - but not in the name of any deity.

So we could surmise then, that taking away the 'diety' aspect. we are free to partake in human sacrifice fo r humane reasons rather than to appease any particular demand from diety -

Nice touch!

Funny how by removing diety from the equation. we retain the practices, and delegate these to the authority and insturmentation of science.

Thus by removing the diety, we make something nice out of something terrible, like human sacrifice.
 
Scot C. Trypal said:

Sloppy back-o-the-envelope calculation again but:

Average length of a US name = 5.946 characters.

Average numerical value of the letters = 13.5.
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It might be interesting to note that including the letter frequencies into the equation, the weighted average numerical value of a letter is only 11.7 as very frequent 'E' and 'A' have small values and most of the very rare letters ('J', 'Q', 'X', and 'Z') have large values.
 
Navigator:

Save with a deity it was mandatory.

With people it is a choice.

It is also far more humane.

--J.D.
 
Doctor X said:
Navigator:

Save with a deity it was mandatory.

With people it is a choice.

It is also far more humane.

--J.D.
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Let's all bow down to Big Brother! ;)
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LW:
It might be interesting to note that including the letter frequencies into the equation, the weighted average numerical value of a letter is only 11.7 as very frequent 'E' and 'A' have small values and most of the very rare letters ('J', 'Q', 'X', and 'Z') have large values.
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You’re very right (there’s also the question of the frequency of names which could alter the average length).

Anyway, thanks for finding that; I was too lazy. That makes the multiplier 9.57, which makes 9 even more necessary by the choice of method. The only other significant option is really 18.

Is using 9 and the explanation behind it an example of looking for evidence after choosing a conclusion?
Iacchus:
No, because I hadn't even considered it until someone else brought it to my attention. Also, it only corroborates what I already know about the Reformation and the number 666 (according to certain reference books). So in that respect I didn't have to lift a finger to do anything.
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You strike me as a person who’d know something special about any digit with respect to any event. :)

Wouldn’t 6 be even more special? Should we be looking for the false Raymundo, come to lead us all into the pits of Hell?

Maybe I’m not following well but I’m not seeing how a number deemed neat by adherents to Artemis’ cult plays a role in finding a multiplier for the English spelling of Jesus. What exactly did you already know about the Reformation that led you to 9?

Also, how did that link to locusts, then to wasps, which are the same color as uniformed firefighters, and an acronym for White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestants? Oh my, I’m getting dizzy.
 
Navigator said:


...science does offer abortion.
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Science didn't "offer" abortion- terminating an unwanted pregnancy is a concept that goes back to the beginning of history.

Medicine made it safer for the woman - no poisonous herbs to swallow, assaults to the belly, digging around blindly with coat hangers.

There is no "Abortion quota" that the Great God Science needs to meet to keep the sun in the sky, or to keep the gears of it's "progress machine" going.

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Well put Piscivore.

Iacchus, did you know Hades also meets your test (with 18 though)? Gaia too. And Ostara, Germanic goddess of spring. And Bragi, the Norse God of "poetry and eloquence". :)

Anyway, just doing my part.
 
Further Corroboration of Number 9

Just some further corroboration regarding the number 9 here ...

09-90 .. 18-81 .. 27-72 .. 36-63 .. 45-54 .. 54-45 .. 63-36 .. 72-27 .. 81-18 .. 90-09

Notice the symmetry between each set of numbers and how they all add up to 99? e.g., 81 + 18 = 99.

Also, look at the 63-36 set where, you can add 630 + 036 to get 666 or, you can divide 63 by 9 and 36 by 9 and get 7 and 4 or, 74. Hence 74 x 9 = 666. Now isn't that strange? And notice it only works with this one set.

By the way, 70 x 9 = 630 and 04 x 9 = 036. Whereas 630 + 036 = 666. So this is where you get your extra 0's ... in case anyone needs to know.
 
Scot C. Trypal said:

You strike me as a person who’d know something special about any digit with respect to any event. :)
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Well I've started my own numbering system in case you're interested. And, if you would like to discuss it further, maybe you would care to post something on my forum?
 
Re: Further Corroboration of Number 9

Iacchus said:
Just some further corroboration regarding the number 9 here ...

09-90 .. 18-81 .. 27-72 .. 36-63 .. 45-54 .. 54-45 .. 63-36 .. 72-27 .. 81-18 .. 90-09

Notice the symmetry between each set of numbers and how they all add up to 99? e.g., 81 + 18 = 99.

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Just a quick observation before my bed time…

Any number, not just 9, can meet these criteria. The last digit in any base will do this. For example, base 5 (base 10):

04 (4) + 40 (20) = 44 (24)
13 (8) + 31 (16) = 44 (24)
22 (12) + 22 (12) = 44 (24)
31 (16) + 13 (8) = 44 (24)

Now, the “one set” set thing with 63 and 36 is interesting, but for another day.
 
Doctor X said:
Navigator:

Save with a deity it was mandatory.

With people it is a choice.

It is also far more humane.

--J.D.
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Certainly...now we don;t have to pretend we are powerless.

A bit like when after the WWII War Criminals trails - one major reason used by those under hudgement was that they were 'only following orders'

It aint 'big brother' who is making the choices, but merely offering the tools and service.

Drafting might be seen as mandatory, and thus as questionable as any diety demands.
 
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