The Name Jesus = 666?

[Iacchus]

What is history without the mystery? Nothing but politics, and certainly not much room for religion is there? So, if you don't believe in the mystery, why don't you just come right out and say so, rather than continue to comment on that which you know nothing about.

 

[Dancing David]

What is history without the mystery? Nothing but politics, and certainly not much room for religion is there? So, if you don't believe in the mystery, why don't you just come right out and say so, rather than continue to comment on that which you know nothing about.

You know Iachuss that staement makes little if anysense. What does your looking at a Rorshack blot and saying it predicts the future have to do with mystery? There are two sides to Revelations, one the spiritual interpretation and the other the political interpretation. Jesus was a political figure.

I find plenty of mystery in the universe, and I am well versed and practised in spiritual matter, if you would like to engage in an 'occult' pissing contest I can piss father and harder than you would imagine.

If you would stop driveling your loose association and study that which I have pointed you in the direction of then you would understand the meaning of the book of Revealations. And you would know more of the mystery of the bible, like why are there two creations?

I believe in mystery Iachuss, so take your high school playground tactics and stuff them up Dionysius. Your last comment shows you as a poseur with no real understanding of initiation, mystery or the holy spirit.
(Go ahead I double dog dare you! )

 

[Iacchus]

I can see that you have the knowledge, but lack the genuine experience. That's where the real mystery comes in. And no, the last thing Jesus was was a politician, not of this world anyway.

33 Then Pilate entered into the judgment hall again, and called Jesus, and said unto him, Art thou the King of the Jews?

34 Jesus answered him, Sayest thou this thing of thyself, or did others tell it thee of me?

35 Pilate answered, Am I a Jew? Thine own nation and the chief priests have delivered thee unto me: what hast thou done?

36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

37 Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

38 Pilate saith unto him, What is truth? And when he had said this, he went out again unto the Jews, and saith unto them, I find in him no fault at all. ~ John 18:33-38

Yes, it is a shame when politics interfere with the truth. And that's exactly what happened, the politics, expedited by the betrayal of Judas Iscariot -- who, was trying to politicalize Jesus' teachings -- is what hung Jesus up on the cross. So yes, this was the only thing political behind Jesus' death.

 

[Iacchus]

From the thread, What is Discernment? regarding the notion that Jesus is the only true way to God ...

Didn't I already answer this? Wasn't the first answer good enough?

I suppose it was. I just didn't expect you to dismiss John 14:6 so easily.

And in case anyone doesn't know, this is what John 14:6 says ... "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

To which I responded to below ...

Well even if it were true, and I'm not saying it isn't, if the most people can do is profess it on their lips, as if that's all that was necessary, i.e., without any idea of what they're talking about, then that pretty much discounts the whole idea and basically puts everybody on equal standing. In which case it puts those who profess but don't understand at a distinct disadvantage, because what they've accepted they've accepted blindly. And as I understand, many gentiles are received into heaven much more readily -- due to their unbias -- than those who have accepted a false Christ who, justify everything they do (right or wrong) in the name of Jesus.

And of course you've had a chance to read the thread, The Name Jesus = 666? Because these are the people I'm talking about here. So in this respect you can't say the Christian God is playing favorites, because He's not, it just appears that way due to human nature. Which of course, is why it leaves such a bad taste in so many people's mouths.

Obviously since the number 666 represents the False Prophet who, comes in Jesus' name (like I said, take a look at your fundamentalist movement, beginning with The Reformation), then there's no reason why the number 666 can't also represent Jesus.

 

[Dancing David]

Iachuss,
What gave you the ability to judge my experience? I know the difference bewteen wishful thinking and delusion. Maybe you should examine your loose associations and you grandiosity. A truely wise person does not brag about mystery. If you were initiated then your are a shame to your teachers. Go ask them for guidance.

Your narcissistic assertion makes you a fool. Bray donkey, the words are still heehaw.

(Tell me my middle name and the middle name of my stepson and I will grant you that you have psychic powers.)

 

[Dancing David]

Yes, it is a shame when politics interfere with the truth. And that's exactly what happened, the politics, expedited by the betrayal of Judas Iscariot -- who, was trying to politicalize Jesus' teachings -- is what hung Jesus up on the cross. So yes, this was the only thing political behind Jesus' death.

The messiah is a politcal figure just as Aaron the brother of Moses was a politician. There is a spiritual side to the Book of revealations, much like alchemy it is about the personal journey towards enlightenment.

Did you really think that Jesus didn't ask to die? You don't understand the mystery of the passion play, the mystery is that he knows and asks Judas to betray him, because that is what god wants. If you are faithful then you understand that mystery. Judas is the chosen of the lord as much as Jesus.(You should study gnosticism as well Iachuss.)

God put Jesus in the world and god takes him out of it.

 

[Iacchus]

Iachuss,
What gave you the ability to judge my experience?

It's funny I should hear this coming from you, because you've done nothing but levy accusations towards me? You really have no business telling me what I know or what I don't know. And by the way, what makes "you" think you know everything? All this tells me is that we really have nothing to discuss.

The messiah is a politcal figure just as Aaron the brother of Moses was a politician. There is a spiritual side to the Book of revealations, much like alchemy it is about the personal journey towards enlightenment.

Well then, we must not have been reading the same book then.

 

[Dancing David]

Some people with enlightenment are like a child with a flashlight, they just shine it in thier face. I am sorry that the roots of the tree that produced the book of revealations are a subject you aren't interested in learning in. The Avignon papacy was the Antichrist beofre the reformation, I think that Peter is a good candidate as well.

You are very paranoid if you think I have 'levy accusations towards ' you, better luck next turn of the wheel Iachuss.

 

[Iacchus]

Some people with enlightenment are like a child with a flashlight, they just shine it in thier face.

Excuse me?

I am sorry that the roots of the tree that produced the book of revealations are a subject you aren't interested in learning in.

"Of their fruits ye shall know them" ... not their roots. Now that isn't to say you can't study it but, meaning is to be had in the here and now, and is much more readily discernable through taste. Neither am I without my sources, so you can't just say I'm spouting these things arbitrarily off the top of my head.

The Avignon papacy was the Antichrist beofre the reformation, I think that Peter is a good candidate as well.

So, just about the time that the Dragon, the Beast out of the Sea and the False Prophet are ultimately dealt with, lo and behold up pops Babylon which comes into remembrance, spoken of as if it had been there all along. ~ Revelation 16:16-21 So tell me, who does Babylon represent?

You are very paranoid if you think I have 'levy accusations towards ' you, better luck next turn of the wheel Iachuss.

Excuse me? Why do you insist on talking down to me?

 

[Dancing David]

If you feel that you are being spoken down to, that may be your issue, Iachuss.

babylon is babylon, it is one of the cultures surrounding the hebrai in ca'anan, it is most likely associatd with the lady of the sea.

I feel that there is no need to search an old text for new meaning, the world is all around. The world is not likely to end anytime real soon, but we each follow a different path.(Summed over history of course).

To search for the antichrist is like looking for christ, found within.