asydhouse
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The General Theory of Stellar Metamorphosis
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sts60
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Hi, jefferyw. I had asked before about your response to someone saying you didn't think radioactivity was real. Is that right?
bobdroege7
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Being a Positron merchant, if radioactivity isn't real, then I am a charlatan and a fraud.
The Man
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"KING CRANK!!!"???? Sorry jeffreyw, you ain't even close.
http://timecube.2enp.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Cube
Why is it cranks always overestimate the significance of their speculations, apparently even about being a crank?
Actually, most IgNobels these days go to research that is unusual but useful.
ferd burfle
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Aw, c'mon man, how can you not like a concept of planetary development that includes raining diamonds?
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asydhouse
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Bad poetry is bad.
If it was a science fiction story it would be pathetic rubbish.
Maybe it would make a fun Dr Who children's adventure which doesn't really try to be sound sf, or something in Star Wars, pulp fiction Saturday morning serial dashing off daft make believe, but as an undroll piece of shambling trollery it is as mundane and boring as any crap amateur zombie fiction.
(Here "undroll" plays poetic with "undead", geddit?)
ETA: PS, Just noticed your avatar referencing Steely Dan! Nice one! I walk between raindrops to this day
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ferd burfle
Graduate Poster
Bad poetry is bad.
If it was a science fiction story it would be pathetic rubbish.
Maybe it would make a fun Dr Who children's adventure which doesn't really try to be sound sf, or something in Star Wars, pulp fiction Saturday morning serial dashing off daft make believe, but as an undroll piece of shambling trollery it is as mundane and boring as any crap amateur zombie fiction.
(Here "undroll" plays poetic with "undead", geddit?)
ETA: PS, Just noticed your avatar referencing Steely Dan! Nice one! I walk between raindrops to this day
Apologies; this needed an ironic or sarcastic smiley to make it clear. And yes, that tune is as close to perfection as any mortal could hope achieve.
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Reality Check
Penultimate Amazing
jeffreyw: Cites RationalWiki describing the "stellar metamorphosis" delusion
People know what the Ig Nobel Prizes are and that they is not awarded to random internet physics cranks.
The EMPEROR OF CRANK was and always will be the rather insane Time Cube guy.
The EMPEROR OF YOUTUBE CRANK is a position contested by many people. I would vote for the rope delusions of Bill Gaede.
27 September 2016 jeffreyw: The rather dumb act of citing RationalWiki describing the "stellar metamorphosis" delusion proposed by ignorant people.
Stellar metamorphosis
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jeffreyw: 58 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
You do not understand the real world, jeffreyw, where screeds of ignorant and deluded YouTube videos are easily recognized by anyone with basic knowledge of science, e.g. what stars and planets are.
People know what the Ig Nobel Prizes are and that they is not awarded to random internet physics cranks.
The EMPEROR OF CRANK was and always will be the rather insane Time Cube guy.
The EMPEROR OF YOUTUBE CRANK is a position contested by many people. I would vote for the rope delusions of Bill Gaede.
27 September 2016 jeffreyw: The rather dumb act of citing RationalWiki describing the "stellar metamorphosis" delusion proposed by ignorant people.
Stellar metamorphosis
This is a quite long description of the many delusions held by the main 6 cranks proposing this "theory", including the idiocy that stars are "electrochemical, thermochemical reaction chambers"
!jeffreyw: 58 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: The ignorance of exoplanets can be seen by eye when the "exo" part means outside of the Solar System!
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: A "The closed minded dogmatists (which are probably very, very many) on this forum..." post
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: The ignorant assertion that stellar system formation is "dark matter, spacetime warping, big bang creationism".
- 27 June 2016 jeffreyw: Unable to support his idea rationally with evidence so he has to resort to gibberish and insults.
- 6 July 2016 jeffreyw: Typical Internet crank paranoia about a "cabal"
! - 6 July 2016 jeffreyw: Typical Internet crank ranting about "dogma", "narrow minded", "weird crap", etc. !
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asydhouse
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Oh I realised the spirit in which you alluded to raining diamonds, but I'm just not amused by the rubbish spouting from Jeffreyw, even in sarcastic form. It's trite, self-indulgent and boring, however you look at it. I'm not criticising self-indulgence per se, because if you don't indulge yourself occasionally you're not living! But wanking in public is not amusing for the majority of onlookers, I'd think.
But maybe to help out Jeffreyw you do need a sarcastic smiley there to let him know you were not seduced by any aspect of the tripe he's serving up and calling diamonds.
Jeffery,
It does not require more than a perusal of the précis or abstract of your Stellar Metamorphosis theory to instantly see that you are a student and purveyor of crank 'science.' In breathtaking ignorance of even the rather basic foundation of a number of disciplines you casually brush aside firmly established theory and grasp at the most outlandish notions to 'support' a wild hypothesis.
You are the antithesis of the scientist. For you to think you are in such August company of the persecuted as, e.g., Galileo is an insult to great minds.
Why do I make such a stern rebuke? Because you don't even deign to engage in the quantification afforded by mathematics, let alone acquire data. And most damning of all, you cannot countenance the slightest possibility of your being wrong on a single point, in the face of the skepticism of all but a cadre of other like minded cranks.
Your 'published research' appears to me to be nothing more than the widely shotgunned, glory-seeking drivel that any reputable outlet avoids like the plague. You rail against so-called "Established" science as outmoded protectionist group-think that must be discarded lest it continue to poison minds.
On the contrary, if not so laughably and transparently inept, you and your ilk would present the danger. Like the 'Creation Science' crowd who want our school kids to have fairy tales given equal time (full time, if they could have their way) with evolutionary biology. Not to suggest that *you* yourself represent even a scintilla of the level of threat posed by the Creationists, so you shouldn't derive any of the martyr's satisfaction from that quarter.
It does not require more than a perusal of the précis or abstract of your Stellar Metamorphosis theory to instantly see that you are a student and purveyor of crank 'science.' In breathtaking ignorance of even the rather basic foundation of a number of disciplines you casually brush aside firmly established theory and grasp at the most outlandish notions to 'support' a wild hypothesis.
You are the antithesis of the scientist. For you to think you are in such August company of the persecuted as, e.g., Galileo is an insult to great minds.
Why do I make such a stern rebuke? Because you don't even deign to engage in the quantification afforded by mathematics, let alone acquire data. And most damning of all, you cannot countenance the slightest possibility of your being wrong on a single point, in the face of the skepticism of all but a cadre of other like minded cranks.
Your 'published research' appears to me to be nothing more than the widely shotgunned, glory-seeking drivel that any reputable outlet avoids like the plague. You rail against so-called "Established" science as outmoded protectionist group-think that must be discarded lest it continue to poison minds.
On the contrary, if not so laughably and transparently inept, you and your ilk would present the danger. Like the 'Creation Science' crowd who want our school kids to have fairy tales given equal time (full time, if they could have their way) with evolutionary biology. Not to suggest that *you* yourself represent even a scintilla of the level of threat posed by the Creationists, so you shouldn't derive any of the martyr's satisfaction from that quarter.
asydhouse
Master Poster
Well said! And welcome to the boards!
Unfortunately, as you will find if you stay here for awhile, people like Jeffreyw are impervious to the sort of reasoned argument you have so articulately delivered here. They aren't here to discuss things, nor to learn, but are just seeking attention, and gaining some perverse pleasure in imagining themselves to be maverick and superior.
Their ignorance of science and scientists enables them to imagine that the practioners of science are sheep, while they themselves are original thinkers (despite jumping on any old anti-science bandwagon, often riding contradictory wagons at the same time, all oblivious of the cognitive dissonance such splitting of their foundations should give rise to in any honest and rational mind). They waggle their mooning tralalalas in our faces and imagine some success in tweaking the Establishment, oblivious of the fact that they are making laughing stocks of themselves.
So don't be down when you realise the futility of talking to them. There is still benefit for lurking readers who may have no established ideas about these subjects, and statements such as yours or actual information from knowledgeable posters can be beneficial to those "floating readers" (to play on the current spate of elections swirling in the zeitgeist).
Anyway, enjoy the forum… but watch out for the politics areas, it gets crazy and stupid in there!
jeffreyw
Critical Thinker
New video:
Five Laws of hot jupiters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVpS_8B3Mpg
How's the search for pebbles clumping together to form massive Earth or Mercury sized objects going? Find any yet? Find the pebbles clumping together? LOL.
Five Laws of hot jupiters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVpS_8B3Mpg
How's the search for pebbles clumping together to form massive Earth or Mercury sized objects going? Find any yet? Find the pebbles clumping together? LOL.
Nonpareil
The Terrible Trivium
For those unwilling to deal with YouTube nonsense, it's a minute-long amateur web graphic of Jupiter with the sun in the background while Jeffrey himself drones out the following drivel:
"The five laws of hot Jupiters.
The first law is hot Jupiters are intermediate-aged stars and are much older than stars that have strong, visible spectrums.
Second law: hot Jupiters do not form in situ, or even in orbit around their current host. They were adopted by their host from another part of the galaxy, or another galaxy entirely.
The third law: hot Jupiters are not related to their host star by any sort of singular formation construct, such as a protoplanetary disk and any of its variants, which strive to force them to be related by formation processes.
Fourth law: hot Jupiters can migrate towards or away from their hosts to speed up or slow down, respectively, the evolutionary timeline after they have been captured.
Fifth law: hot Jupiters have their thick atmospheres ripped away by their hosts, exposing more and more of their interiors."
That is the video in its entirety, assuming that anyone cares.
A word to jeffreyw: learn what a law is before posting again. I would ask you to also learn what "evidence" means, and to present some, but you have long since established that you don't care to do so.
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30 November 2016 jeffreyw: Five new ignorant fantasies about hot Jupiters.
More ignorance and delusions.
Part of the definition of planets is that they clear their orbits and we have images of the lanes the new planets have cleared. ALMA's Best Image of a Protoplanetary Disk
30 November 2016 jeffreyw: Ignorance of astronomy - that we have recently imaged new planets clearing their orbits.
The delusion that we can see "pebbles clumping together" in other stellar systems
!jeffreyw: 58 items of ignorance and delusion since 15th January 2015
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: The ignorance of exoplanets can be seen by eye when the "exo" part means outside of the Solar System!
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: A "The closed minded dogmatists (which are probably very, very many) on this forum..." post
- 29 December 2014 jeffreyw: The ignorant assertion that stellar system formation is "dark matter, spacetime warping, big bang creationism".
- 27 June 2016 jeffreyw: Unable to support his idea rationally with evidence so he has to resort to gibberish and insults.
- 6 July 2016 jeffreyw: Typical Internet crank paranoia about a "cabal" !
- 6 July 2016 jeffreyw: Typical Internet crank ranting about "dogma", "narrow minded", "weird crap", etc. !
- 27 September 2016 jeffreyw: The rather dumb act of citing RationalWiki describing the "stellar metamorphosis" delusion proposed by ignorant people.
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Obviously, gravity is just a hoax.
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jeffreyw
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Stellar Metamorphosis vs. Black Hole Nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiKtxMTPyi8
Just a short youtube video explaining that black holes have no place in stellar metamorphosis, because black holes violate two basic principles of stellar evolution:
1. They are 0D, and all stars are 3D oblate spheroids
2. They evolved to their current state without mass or energy loss (the star stops shining and giving off solar wind to form a "black hole")
That is all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZiKtxMTPyi8
Just a short youtube video explaining that black holes have no place in stellar metamorphosis, because black holes violate two basic principles of stellar evolution:
1. They are 0D, and all stars are 3D oblate spheroids
2. They evolved to their current state without mass or energy loss (the star stops shining and giving off solar wind to form a "black hole")
That is all.