The "Carlos Swett affair"

[De_Bunk]

Dear spanish speaking f*ckwit, who thinks he observed something paranormal in the WTC murders...

You have got to be one of the biggest, delusional jackasses i have ever read...

You are truly insane....and your father won the award for being Spanish "Idiot F*ckwit" of the year...and it looks like you're trying to win this year..in his honour....

I reckon it was a rocket fired from an F18 to bring down the plane...but the F18 pilot hesitated...and only fired when it was inevitable that the plane was going to impact the Tower...

Yeh...

Thats what it was....

 

[Guest]

THE BRAINLESS CLOWNS ARE LAUGHING

OK, I'm not saying this proves or disproves anything (Carlos, please don't tell me your video was originally broadcast live to everyone in the world, and couldn't have been edited; I already know this); I just think it is funny.

[edit]
Yes, I know this is gallows humor, at best. I mean no disrespect to those who died on 9/11/01. I'm just making fun of the Swett video. Please don't turn around and say I'm anti-American; that simply isn't true. I'm just taking the existing video, and trying to find some humor in it.
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Hi rwald:
I am a little dissapointed of you. All your questions or interpretations you made me before are already answered and solved, but this thing you are posting here puts you in the same category of the brainless clowns that are before you, lyke thatguy and the scotch.

If you don't have more arguments lyke the rest of clowns to defeat the reality of my true notarized application to the challenge and a poor answer from the JREF, please stay in silence, too. It is better.

As you see, in your"gallows humor" is a fact that internet is not the correct method to analize the video, it can be tricked.
Sorry for the big favor you did to Andrew Harter and the JREF (The Amazing Randi) proving they used the stupid , antitechnical and poor method , That is a fact.

I don`t know if U:S: people aprooves your humor, perhaps some stupids yes (they will think lyke you: is about "SWETT`S VIDEO),
but the rest I am sure they will not.

I protest myself in name of the more of 30 ecuadorians that were working in the towers and died , and I protest in name of all the victims of the stupidity (past , present and future) . Please don`t put yourself in that side. I hope you were a little "high" when you did it.

It is time , as I said before, to open your mouth "Amazing Randi and Amazing Harter", besides only I know that those e-mails between us are true. The rest of the members and guess of this thread have the right to think the e-mails are edited.

Your members of this forum , Mr. Randi, want your help, they can`t defeat me , have no more reasons, and are transforming the JREF forum in a circus. Fire the clowns.

Thanks.
S&S

 

[De_Bunk]

Whoo, Whoo.....All aboard...

This has got to be a joke...

I bet its another one of "Grenard's attempt to get revenge...

or Bethke....or the jokers behind Agur, or any one of the other fruitcakes out there...that have had their delusional claims laughed off the face of the planet...

Its yet another case of.."My Eeeenglish is wery bade"....

But somehow they understand it and are able to read it perfectly....

Yeh..

Right...

 

[Guest]

Dear spanish speaking f*ckwit, who thinks he observed something paranormal in the WTC murders...

You have got to be one of the biggest, delusional jackasses i have ever read...

You are truly insane....and your father won the award for being Spanish "Idiot F*ckwit" of the year...and it looks like you're trying to win this year..in his honour....

I reckon it was a rocket fired from an F18 to bring down the plane...but the F18 pilot hesitated...and only fired when it was inevitable that the plane was going to impact the Tower...

Yeh...

Thats what it was....

Hi leader of the stupids clowns :

No., it was a bird ;said Harter(JREF) in his answer.
You are missing one thing (because you can`t read): "it can be see in trough the smoke of the tower with some difficulties, but it is there"(Harter`s words).

The only thing your father won was your mother, and you are the result.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[De_Bunk]

I lyke you wery much...

You reckon im a clown...

Im not the one claiming there is something paranormal about a load of dust, with bits of debris floating about.... and then asking for $1,000,000 for it...

Go figga...

Hurry up...the trains leaving the station...

( PS...you are nothing but another troll..who's been lurking and suddenly trying to replace Bethke...)

 

[Guest]

Hi De_Bunk:

The only thing your father won was your mother, and you are their result. Sorry for your mother( double lost)

Thanks,
S&S

 

[rwald]

Carlos, I know that the internet video can be edited, as I proved. I never said that Randi and Harter did the best possible review of your case; I know that it would have been better had they looked at the original video. My argument has always been that you ignored the rules of the challenge, and should be disqualified solely based on that. As we were discussing on IRC last night, because you did not clearly state how your claim could be disproven, you broke rule #1 of the application rules, and therefore are disqualified automatically. It doesn't matter what Randi and Harter do; if you break the rules, you are disqualified.

And again, I mean no disrespect to anyone. I was just trying to be somewhat funny. If you are offended, I am sorry. However, my picture was not trying to prove a point; my point has never been based on pictures.

 

[De_Bunk]

S&S...

My.... how your english is improving...in such a small space of time as well...you must be a quick learner...

And im really cut up about my father winning my mother and me being the result...?????

I lay prostrate, in honour, at your cutting wit...and totally understandable humour....

The winter nights must fly by in your household...

Stick to pretending you dont "Speeaka da eeenglish"..thats funnier than thinking i give a ◊◊◊◊ what you say about me...

 

[thatguywhojuggles]

Small sample of this thread (Part II)

And the Troll STILL doesn't get the message!!!

If you missed Part I, check back on the previous page....



"...people think you are a loon." -Shaun from Scotland

"...you have nothing upon which to base a claim." -pyrrho2000

"Yet another Troll feeding thread." -Testudo

"It has not been established that what you saw on TV was paranormal activity." -pyrrho2000

"Harter told you that it was not a paranormal event. It follows that your claim is not valid." -pyrrho2000

"You cannot use uncertainty as evidence that your claim is correct." -pyrrho2000

"You still haven't adequately answered the most basic question..." -Wyrd1

"It has been pointed out to you several times that the reason you saw something could be explained by any number of reasonable causes not dependent on supernatural/paranormal events." -Wyrd1

"YOU have to prove it could NOT have been anything but paranormal." -Wyrd1

"You have never made any reasonable reponse to anyone pointing out these things to you." -Wyrd1

"You have got to be one of the biggest, delusional jackasses i have ever read..." -De_Bunk

"You are truly insane...." -De_Bunk

"This has got to be a joke..." -De_Bunk

"you are nothing but another troll.." -De_Bunk

"...you ignored the rules of the challenge, and should be disqualified solely based on that. " -rwald

"...you broke rule #1 of the application rules, and therefore are disqualified automatically." -rwald

 

[Shaun from Scotland]

Small sample of this thread (Part II)

And the Troll STILL doesn't get the message!!!

If you missed Part I, check back on the previous page....



"...people think you are a loon." -Shaun from Scotland

"...you have nothing upon which to base a claim." -pyrrho2000

"Yet another Troll feeding thread." -Testudo

"It has not been established that what you saw on TV was paranormal activity." -pyrrho2000

"Harter told you that it was not a paranormal event. It follows that your claim is not valid." -pyrrho2000

"You cannot use uncertainty as evidence that your claim is correct." -pyrrho2000

"You still haven't adequately answered the most basic question..." -Wyrd1

"It has been pointed out to you several times that the reason you saw something could be explained by any number of reasonable causes not dependent on supernatural/paranormal events." -Wyrd1

"YOU have to prove it could NOT have been anything but paranormal." -Wyrd1

"You have never made any reasonable reponse to anyone pointing out these things to you." -Wyrd1

"You have got to be one of the biggest, delusional jackasses i have ever read..." -De_Bunk

"You are truly insane...." -De_Bunk

"This has got to be a joke..." -De_Bunk

"you are nothing but another troll.." -De_Bunk

"...you ignored the rules of the challenge, and should be disqualified solely based on that. " -rwald

"...you broke rule #1 of the application rules, and therefore are disqualified automatically." -rwald

Yeah but we are obviously all wrong..........

Dipsy sends her regards S&S by the way............

 

[Guest]

ABC (ASSOCIATION OF BRAINLESS CLOWNS)

Small sample of this thread (Part II)

And the Troll STILL doesn't get the message!!!

If you missed Part I, check back on the previous page....



"...people think you are a loon." -Shaun from Scotland

"...you have nothing upon which to base a claim." -pyrrho2000

"Yet another Troll feeding thread." -Testudo

"It has not been established that what you saw on TV was paranormal activity." -pyrrho2000

"Harter told you that it was not a paranormal event. It follows that your claim is not valid." -pyrrho2000

"You cannot use uncertainty as evidence that your claim is correct." -pyrrho2000

"You still haven't adequately answered the most basic question..." -Wyrd1

"It has been pointed out to you several times that the reason you saw something could be explained by any number of reasonable causes not dependent on supernatural/paranormal events." -Wyrd1

"YOU have to prove it could NOT have been anything but paranormal." -Wyrd1

"You have never made any reasonable reponse to anyone pointing out these things to you." -Wyrd1

"You have got to be one of the biggest, delusional jackasses i have ever read..." -De_Bunk

"You are truly insane...." -De_Bunk

"This has got to be a joke..." -De_Bunk

"you are nothing but another troll.." -De_Bunk

"...you ignored the rules of the challenge, and should be disqualified solely based on that. " -rwald

"...you broke rule #1 of the application rules, and therefore are disqualified automatically." -rwald

hi thatguywhocries:

Thanks for posting the list of your Association of Brainless Clowns(ABC). That will help to make a difference into the members of this thread.

Keep on going, Randi and Harter are proud of you all, maybe you all get a t-shirt free.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Guest]

Carlos, I know that the internet video can be edited, as I proved. I never said that Randi and Harter did the best possible review of your case; I know that it would have been better had they looked at the original video.

And again, I mean no disrespect to anyone. I was just trying to be somewhat funny. If you are offended, I am sorry. However, my picture was not trying to prove a point; my point has never been based on pictures.

Rwald: First put your brain in working, then your fingers will type reasonable on the keyboard.
You made a mistake , lyke Harter and Randi; the difference is that now you are recognizing your error; the "amazing duo" are still in silence.

I remind you all members and guess of this thread Mr. Harter¨s answer to my notarized application to the challenge:

From: "JREF" <[email protected]>
>To: "Carlos Swett"
>Subject: RE: JAMES RANDI´S CLOCK UPDATE (9 DAYS)
>Date: <st1:date Month="4" Day="15" Year="2002">Mon, 15 Apr 2002</st1:date> <st1:time Hour="15" Minute="0">15:00:44</st1:time> -0400
>
>We have received your application and video tape. I've seen this tape before and pointed out what was taking place to others.

>You have made two assumptions, one following the other. Both are incorrect.

>Your first assumption is that the object comes from behind the second tower.

>This is not the case. I've gone frame by frame through a copy of this video that's available on the Internet. You can clearly see that the object is IN FRONT OF THE TOWERS when you look at it frame by frame. The object is dark and difficult to see at some points against the smoke, but it is there. A bird could certainly be the culprit.
>You have no claim. There is nothing supernatural taking place.
>
>Andrew Harter
>Researcher
>James Randi Educational Foundation
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Rwald: please stop acting lyke JREF lawyer, they can defend themselves, I am still waiting them.

A)Can you tell me where is my "second assumption"?

B)Where are the words of Harter that my application is not valid ?

C)Do you know the link of the internet video that Harter studied "frame by frame"?

You better do merits in this test, so I will erase you from the list of the ABC (Association of Brainless Clowns )

Thanks,
S&S

 

[De_Bunk]

S&S...

You've been playing with the "Cybershamen" again ...havent you...

Kill John Lennon....

Isnt there a Peoples Liberation Army you can join or something...

I thought Ecuador liked a bit of revolution...

Kill John Lennon....

But anyway...you are definitely a candidate for trying Cybershamen and believing it will enlarge your penis through flashing lights and sounds...

Zombo.com...

Kill John Lennon....

I reckon your Bethke....or Agur...

De_Bunk

( Re-hashing the Ol' "subliminal message" gag again...)

 

[rachaella]

OK, I'm not saying this proves or disproves anything (Carlos, please don't tell me your video was originally broadcast live to everyone in the world, and couldn't have been edited; I already know this); I just think it is funny.

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Yes, I know this is gallows humor, at best. I mean no disrespect to those who died on 9/11/01. I'm just making fun of the Swett video. Please don't turn around and say I'm anti-American; that simply isn't true. I'm just taking the existing video, and trying to find some humor in it.
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Thanks

 

[rwald]

Carlos,

I didn't make a mistake; from the beginning I said my picture proved nothing, and I still say this. I'm sorry if you misinterpreted my first letter. However, there is still a problem. It is you who have made a mistake. The mistake is, your application is not valid. You did not comply with all the rules of the application, and therefore, you cannot be considered an applicant. It doesn't matter what Randi and Harter told you in their letters; if you did not follow their rules, you cannot win.

As to your complaints that Randi and Harter haven't told you any of this personally: They have already told you this. They told it to you, and the rest of the world, when they posted their rules online for everyone to see. If you choose to ignore what they have already said, than that is your choice. But do not pretend they have said nothing; to the contrary, they have already said enough.

 

[Guest]

To the other clown

S&S...You are truly insane....and your father won the award for being Spanish "Idiot F*ckwit" of the year...and it looks like you're trying to win this year..in his honour..

Hi virtual De-Bunk:

The only thing your father won in his life was your mother. You are the result of that.
Sorry for your mother, she lost twice.

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Guest]

Sorry Rwald: you got an F

Carlos,

I didn't make a mistake; from the beginning I said my picture proved nothing, and I still say this. ...................

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Rwald,

Sorry , you did not pass the simple test of the 3 questions(A,B,C) you were supposed to answer.

Your note : F

You can be the secretary of ABC ( Assiociation of Brainless Clowns) , so you can put your own rules.
To be President of ABC are disputing "thathellokittyguy" and De-Bunk. The others clowns are in silence, now.

Until the "Amazing Duo" don´t come in your defense, your replies are from loosers.

Another simple questions about "my first assumption"(as Harter said)

Did you compare it (Harter´s) with "mine" in the translated notarized application.? Who is lying?

First the first,

Thanks,
S&S

 

[Wyrd1]

Gee whiz

The others clowns are in silence, now.

We are ignoring you. Go visit the Skeptic's Forum. I posted something there for you that may help you. I figure if I help you find someone who may listen to you that you'll leave us alone.

 

[rwald]

I agree that Harter's response was not the best it could have been. But, the point is, since your application was flawed from the beginning, it doesn't matter what Harter said. If he said, "You're a poopy head, na, na, na na, na," it wouldn't matter. The problem occured before Harter said a word. Unless you can prove that your application was correct, it doesn't matter what Harter said.

And as the secretary of the Association of Brainless Clowns, I nominate you, Carlos Swett, as our patron saint. Do I hear any seconds?

 

[Guest]

I agree that Harter's response was not the best it could have been.

Your note : F

You did not answered a simple question.

You will be second by your friends of the ABC.
Mr. Randi was your saint patrol, why change him?

Thanks,
S&S