The "Carlos Swett affair"
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Sorry I do not have the capability to transcribe the video I have of the bird flying i front of the camera. I suppose I could go forth and learn how to do it but what would be the point? You won't admit you're wrong as it is. You aren't ever going to admit you're wrong. That's why JREF isn't going to deal with you further. In your first post to skeptic forum you lied to the group. You said you were a skeptic. You have amply demonstrated this is not so. Tomorrow you will perhaps get a chance to watch the WTC attack again. You will not see a paranormal object in any footage. You will say this is because the footage has been taken away or altered somehow. You will not admit that out of all the shots of the tradgedy the have been seen there is no paranormal object in any one of them. Out of all those angles there are only two you think did have the paranormal object in it. You can't even conceive of the possibilty that it was birds in both shots. That is MY prediction. I have psychic powers so if you spit out your typical "stupids" comments post I should get the million dollars. Randi?
Sorry I do not have the capability to transcribe the video I have of the bird flying i front of the camera. I suppose I could go forth and learn how to do it but what would be the point? You won't admit you're wrong as it is. You aren't ever going to admit you're wrong. That's why JREF isn't going to deal with you further. In your first post to skeptic forum you lied to the group. You said you were a skeptic. You have amply demonstrated this is not so. Tomorrow you will perhaps get a chance to watch the WTC attack again. You will not see a paranormal object in any footage. You will say this is because the footage has been taken away or altered somehow. You will not admit that out of all the shots of the tradgedy the have been seen there is no paranormal object in any one of them. Out of all those angles there are only two you think did have the paranormal object in it. You can't even conceive of the possibilty that it was birds in both shots. That is MY prediction. I have psychic powers so if you spit out your typical "stupids" comments post I should get the million dollars. Randi?
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A small sample taken from this thread:
(Please note that the first two quotes are not direct quotes from Randi and Harter, but are taken from a post that claims to quote them.)
"What you presented is nothing mysterious. Your application is closed." -James Randi
"You have no claim. There is nothing supernatural taking place." -Andrew Harter
"I looked at the "movie". How anyone can classify such a video as "paranormal" is beyond me." -Ipecac
"If you think you can submit a video tape you copied off of television and collect a million dollars, you are an idiot." -Yahzi
"I don't know about anyone else's opinion on this, but I'm very tired of the Carlos Swett malarky." -Sauron
"Swett has proven himself an individual who neither answers questions nor listens to opposing arguments..." -Smiley01
"Another Paul Bethke/Bigfig/Aforce1 has arrived... The JREF Loonies List(tm) is getting long." -gabriel
"...you do not qualify for the JREF prize!" -rwald
"...has been pointed out by many posters, you simply do not have a claim that satisfies the challenge." -ThirdTwin
"You have not provided any evidence of anything paranormal..." -ThirdTwin
"For the nth time, merely making an observation is not enough for the JREF prize!" -rwald
"...even if Randi believed you, it woudln't matter, since your claim does not qualify for the JREF challange." -rwald
"Randi has no intention of paying you or anyone else money for merely showing that a paranormal event has occured..." -rwald
"Your observation of this supposed "paranormal" event does not qualify you for the million dollar prize." -Mr. Skinny
"Since you do not claim to be able to do anything paranormal, your claim was never valid." -rwald
"...you do not have extraordinary proof for your extraordinary claim..." -rwald
"You will not convince anyone here of your veracity without further evidence." -rwald
"S&S. Its time to go away now. People have been polite and patient with you but you refuse to accept the obvious. Your video does not amount to proof of anything. You are wasting your time. now please go away....." -The Fool
"...this has, sadly, turned into a circular argument." -Third Twin
"There's nothing to be tested, there's no valid claim in your application..." -Patricio Elicer
"I think that any skeptic and rational person will find your evidence very weak, and consecuently won't bother to take your claim seriously." -Patricio Elicer
"...in my opinion, your claim is not valid for the challenge." -Patricio Elicer
"Do everybody a favor and stop wasting your time here." -Wyrd1
(Please note that the first two quotes are not direct quotes from Randi and Harter, but are taken from a post that claims to quote them.)
"What you presented is nothing mysterious. Your application is closed." -James Randi
"You have no claim. There is nothing supernatural taking place." -Andrew Harter
"I looked at the "movie". How anyone can classify such a video as "paranormal" is beyond me." -Ipecac
"If you think you can submit a video tape you copied off of television and collect a million dollars, you are an idiot." -Yahzi
"I don't know about anyone else's opinion on this, but I'm very tired of the Carlos Swett malarky." -Sauron
"Swett has proven himself an individual who neither answers questions nor listens to opposing arguments..." -Smiley01
"Another Paul Bethke/Bigfig/Aforce1 has arrived... The JREF Loonies List(tm) is getting long." -gabriel
"...you do not qualify for the JREF prize!" -rwald
"...has been pointed out by many posters, you simply do not have a claim that satisfies the challenge." -ThirdTwin
"You have not provided any evidence of anything paranormal..." -ThirdTwin
"For the nth time, merely making an observation is not enough for the JREF prize!" -rwald
"...even if Randi believed you, it woudln't matter, since your claim does not qualify for the JREF challange." -rwald
"Randi has no intention of paying you or anyone else money for merely showing that a paranormal event has occured..." -rwald
"Your observation of this supposed "paranormal" event does not qualify you for the million dollar prize." -Mr. Skinny
"Since you do not claim to be able to do anything paranormal, your claim was never valid." -rwald
"...you do not have extraordinary proof for your extraordinary claim..." -rwald
"You will not convince anyone here of your veracity without further evidence." -rwald
"S&S. Its time to go away now. People have been polite and patient with you but you refuse to accept the obvious. Your video does not amount to proof of anything. You are wasting your time. now please go away....." -The Fool
"...this has, sadly, turned into a circular argument." -Third Twin
"There's nothing to be tested, there's no valid claim in your application..." -Patricio Elicer
"I think that any skeptic and rational person will find your evidence very weak, and consecuently won't bother to take your claim seriously." -Patricio Elicer
"...in my opinion, your claim is not valid for the challenge." -Patricio Elicer
"Do everybody a favor and stop wasting your time here." -Wyrd1
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Oh, and by the way, Carlos. It looks like you lost a couple of stars.
I know you lost one of them right after I placed my one vote. Which would indicate that not many people have voted on this thread.
I imagine if a fair number of people did vote on this thread, you would probably loose even more stars.
I know you lost one of them right after I placed my one vote. Which would indicate that not many people have voted on this thread.
I imagine if a fair number of people did vote on this thread, you would probably loose even more stars.
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Hi Pyrro2000:
You posted twice that argument.
I already answered that inquire before., but you deserves a long explain.
"The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was the most documented EVENT in history" HBO special (2002 Sept)
As you see they were documenting a terrorist attack (terrible, criminal, etc.), their minds were focused in another angle, the attack.
The difference is that I made only an "extra observation" which I put in my notharized applicattion to JREF challenge. I am the one who did the observation of a paranormal activity during that terrible and criminal EVENT.
I send JREF a tape with the same shot and image broadcasted by differents networks of the world (USA, Spain; Germain; Chile, Ecuador, etc.). As you see "everybody" was receiving that image in their homes, the news were focused in the crash of the plain; I did not.
I recommended JREF to analyze the shot using the correct or best technical method, but Mr. Harter(JREF) studied the tape "frame by frame" in a tape available on the internet and gave me a poor answer based on a poor method. Was not my fault, was Harter's mistake. No a single word from him about that my application was not valid.
By the way, do you see "events " of different type on your t.v.?
Do you think the Apollo 11 landed on the moon and Neil Amstrong was the first man walked on the moon?Have you checked the original tape and video tape recorder to be sure ?
Is the same with the broadcast of sports "live", sometimes are something else in the images that nothing have to do with the sports they are transmmiting.
I saw yesterday the HBO special, was based on the work of 16 news organizations. The only shot not included was the one we are talking about here.(???)
I am still waiting the answer here or in the home page of Mr. Randi (JREF) saying I am a troll , idiot, stupid and similars, but also the reasons why and with the honesty of publishing my notarized application and the answer his researcher gave me.There are more than 2000 visitors that deserves a little respect
Until then..........
Thanks
S&S
P.S: The same answer to "thatgaywhojuggles", but I guess he said last week he will never write anymore in "the Carlos Swett affair". Perhaps he is worried abot the rating ( the stars) so he decided to vote. I tell you that my "rating" are the more than 2000 visitors to this case in only two weeks. For them are my respects , not for the stars.
Sorry for my English.
pyrrho2000 said:
Hi Pyrro2000:
You posted twice that argument.
I already answered that inquire before., but you deserves a long explain.
"The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was the most documented EVENT in history" HBO special (2002 Sept)
As you see they were documenting a terrorist attack (terrible, criminal, etc.), their minds were focused in another angle, the attack.
The difference is that I made only an "extra observation" which I put in my notharized applicattion to JREF challenge. I am the one who did the observation of a paranormal activity during that terrible and criminal EVENT.
I send JREF a tape with the same shot and image broadcasted by differents networks of the world (USA, Spain; Germain; Chile, Ecuador, etc.). As you see "everybody" was receiving that image in their homes, the news were focused in the crash of the plain; I did not.
I recommended JREF to analyze the shot using the correct or best technical method, but Mr. Harter(JREF) studied the tape "frame by frame" in a tape available on the internet and gave me a poor answer based on a poor method. Was not my fault, was Harter's mistake. No a single word from him about that my application was not valid.
By the way, do you see "events " of different type on your t.v.?
Do you think the Apollo 11 landed on the moon and Neil Amstrong was the first man walked on the moon?Have you checked the original tape and video tape recorder to be sure ?
Is the same with the broadcast of sports "live", sometimes are something else in the images that nothing have to do with the sports they are transmmiting.
I saw yesterday the HBO special, was based on the work of 16 news organizations. The only shot not included was the one we are talking about here.(???)
I am still waiting the answer here or in the home page of Mr. Randi (JREF) saying I am a troll , idiot, stupid and similars, but also the reasons why and with the honesty of publishing my notarized application and the answer his researcher gave me.There are more than 2000 visitors that deserves a little respect
Until then..........
Thanks
S&S
P.S: The same answer to "thatgaywhojuggles", but I guess he said last week he will never write anymore in "the Carlos Swett affair". Perhaps he is worried abot the rating ( the stars) so he decided to vote. I tell you that my "rating" are the more than 2000 visitors to this case in only two weeks. For them are my respects , not for the stars.
Sorry for my English.
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QUOTE]Originally posted by pyrrho2000
Do you have the original videotape? Do you have the original videotape recorder? Nothing else will suffice for any kind of analysis.
If you do not have the original tape and the original video recorder, you have nothing upon which to base a claim. [/QUOTE]
Hi Pyrro2000:
You posted twice that argument.
I already answered that inquire before., but you deserves a long explain.
"The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was the most documented EVENT in history" HBO special (2002 Sept)
As you see they were documenting a terrorist attack (terrible, criminal, etc.), their minds were focused in another angle, the attack.
The difference is that I made only an "extra observation" which I put in my notharized applicattion to JREF challenge. I am the one who did the observation of a paranormal activity during that terrible and criminal EVENT.
I send JREF a tape with the same shot and image broadcasted by differents networks of the world (USA, Spain; Germain; Chile, Ecuador, etc.). As you see "everybody" was receiving that image in their homes, the news were focused in the crash of the plain; I did not.
I recommended JREF to analyze the shot using the correct or best technical method, but Mr. Harter(JREF) studied the tape "frame by frame" in a tape available on the internet and gave me a poor answer based on a poor method. Was not my fault, was Harter's mistake. No a single word from him about that my application was not valid.
By the way, do you see "events " of different type on your t.v.?
Do you think the Apollo 11 landed on the moon and Neil Amstrong was the first man walked on the moon?Have you checked the original tape and video tape recorder to be sure ?
Is the same with the broadcast of sports "live", sometimes are something else in the images that nothing have to do with the sports they are transmmiting.
I saw yesterday the HBO special, was based on the work of 16 news organizations. The only shot not included was the one we are talking about here.(???)
I am still waiting the answer here or in the home page of Mr. Randi (JREF) saying I am a troll , idiot, stupid and similars, but also the reasons why and with the honesty of publishing my notarized application and the answer his researcher gave me.There are more than 2000 visitors that deserves a little respect
Until then..........
Thanks
S&S
P.S: The same answer to "thatgay", but I guess he said last week he will never write anymore in "the Carlos Swett affair". Perhaps he is worried abot the rating ( the stars) so he decided to vote. I tell you that my "rating" are the more than 2000 visitors to this case in only two weeks. For them are my respects not for the stars.
Do you have the original videotape? Do you have the original videotape recorder? Nothing else will suffice for any kind of analysis.
If you do not have the original tape and the original video recorder, you have nothing upon which to base a claim. [/QUOTE]
Hi Pyrro2000:
You posted twice that argument.
I already answered that inquire before., but you deserves a long explain.
"The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was the most documented EVENT in history" HBO special (2002 Sept)
As you see they were documenting a terrorist attack (terrible, criminal, etc.), their minds were focused in another angle, the attack.
The difference is that I made only an "extra observation" which I put in my notharized applicattion to JREF challenge. I am the one who did the observation of a paranormal activity during that terrible and criminal EVENT.
I send JREF a tape with the same shot and image broadcasted by differents networks of the world (USA, Spain; Germain; Chile, Ecuador, etc.). As you see "everybody" was receiving that image in their homes, the news were focused in the crash of the plain; I did not.
I recommended JREF to analyze the shot using the correct or best technical method, but Mr. Harter(JREF) studied the tape "frame by frame" in a tape available on the internet and gave me a poor answer based on a poor method. Was not my fault, was Harter's mistake. No a single word from him about that my application was not valid.
By the way, do you see "events " of different type on your t.v.?
Do you think the Apollo 11 landed on the moon and Neil Amstrong was the first man walked on the moon?Have you checked the original tape and video tape recorder to be sure ?
Is the same with the broadcast of sports "live", sometimes are something else in the images that nothing have to do with the sports they are transmmiting.
I saw yesterday the HBO special, was based on the work of 16 news organizations. The only shot not included was the one we are talking about here.(???)
I am still waiting the answer here or in the home page of Mr. Randi (JREF) saying I am a troll , idiot, stupid and similars, but also the reasons why and with the honesty of publishing my notarized application and the answer his researcher gave me.There are more than 2000 visitors that deserves a little respect
Until then..........
Thanks
S&S
P.S: The same answer to "thatgay", but I guess he said last week he will never write anymore in "the Carlos Swett affair". Perhaps he is worried abot the rating ( the stars) so he decided to vote. I tell you that my "rating" are the more than 2000 visitors to this case in only two weeks. For them are my respects not for the stars.
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S&S said:
You have 2000 views because people think you are a loon. It's funny, like watching the Muppet Show or something.
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Shaun from Scotland said:
Hi Shaun:
So you are a Muppet Show fan? Your answer said so.
You do not have arguments for the rest of my reply only that juvenile quote?
Go see the Teletubbies, do not miss them.
Thanks.
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S&S said:
Hi Pyrro2000:
You posted twice that argument.
I already answered that inquire before., but you deserves a long explain.
"The terrorist attack on the World Trade Center was the most documented EVENT in history" HBO special (2002 Sept)
As you see they were documenting a terrorist attack (terrible, criminal, etc.), their minds were focused in another angle, the attack.
The difference is that I made only an "extra observation" which I put in my notharized applicattion to JREF challenge. I am the one who did the observation of a paranormal activity during that terrible and criminal EVENT.
I send JREF a tape with the same shot and image broadcasted by differents networks of the world (USA, Spain; Germain; Chile, Ecuador, etc.). As you see "everybody" was receiving that image in their homes, the news were focused in the crash of the plain; I did not.
I recommended JREF to analyze the shot using the correct or best technical method, but Mr. Harter(JREF) studied the tape "frame by frame" in a tape available on the internet and gave me a poor answer based on a poor method. Was not my fault, was Harter's mistake. No a single word from him about that my application was not valid.
By the way, do you see "events " of different type on your t.v.?
Do you think the Apollo 11 landed on the moon and Neil Amstrong was the first man walked on the moon?Have you checked the original tape and video tape recorder to be sure ?
Is the same with the broadcast of sports "live", sometimes are something else in the images that nothing have to do with the sports they are transmmiting.
I saw yesterday the HBO special, was based on the work of 16 news organizations. The only shot not included was the one we are talking about here.(???)
I am still waiting the answer here or in the home page of Mr. Randi (JREF) saying I am a troll , idiot, stupid and similars, but also the reasons why and with the honesty of publishing my notarized application and the answer his researcher gave me.There are more than 2000 visitors that deserves a little respect
Until then..........
Thanks
S&S
P.S: The same answer to "thatgay", but I guess he said last week he will never write anymore in "the Carlos Swett affair". Perhaps he is worried abot the rating ( the stars) so he decided to vote. I tell you that my "rating" are the more than 2000 visitors to this case in only two weeks. For them are my respects not for the stars. [/QUOTE]
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S&S said:
When you consistently display the intelligence level of La-La what do you expect?
Do you think Tinky Winky could also claim the JREF prize? I mean bloody hell, a talking puppet, that MUST be supernatural.....
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JEFF:
Only in this thread?????????????????????????????
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????
Jeff said:
Only in this thread?????????????????????????????
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??????????????
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Come on over to the JREF chat room on IRC...some shlub nick'ed ijral is trying to defend Swett, and doing a damn poor job of it. We've been accused of ...SPECULATING...(gasp!)...
Come on over here and help us put this clown out of our misery...
Come on over here and help us put this clown out of our misery...
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S&S said:
If you haven't noticed, what I said was that I would not comment on your STUPID "paranormal" claim (because you are a troll and don't listen to what people say!.) And I haven't. All my energies have been spent on pointing out that YOU are a TROLL.
Why do you have 2000+ views? I think Shaun from Scotland said it best!
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"Tinky Winky, Dipsy, La La, Po
S&S, S&S say haaaaaaaallo"
S&S, S&S say haaaaaaaallo"
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In fact, I think I WILL claim the JREF prize. My niece has this Teletubbie video, right, and theres a talking hoover in it. If this isn't evidence of the Supernatural I dont know what is.........no one else spotted the talking hoover because they were focused on La La's handbag. I dont have the original videotape, but did you ask for the original when Bambi got lost in the forest?
Do I get a million dollars?
Do I get a million dollars?
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Shaun from Scotland said:
I don't know Shaun, I think we have exhaustively pointed out that you need more than a video tape to prove the paranormal. But, I am willing to bet your paranormal sighting is at least in focus!
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thatguywhojuggles said:
I don't know Shaun, I think we have exhaustively pointed out that you need more than a video tape to prove the paranormal. But, I am willing to bet your paranormal sighting is at least in focus!
Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew I should have got her Rugrats........................
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Shaun from Scotland said:
Dammit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I knew I should have got her Rugrats........................
I know what you mean about the characters on that show, though... there have been times when I wake up at 6:00am, and turn the TV on, and find those furry creatures bouncing around, rolling in the grass, and looking up at a sun that has a baby face in it while rabbits bounce across the grass. It makes me wonder if I am on some kind of weird acid trip!
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el mundo entero sufre las concecuencias de la violencia,
no a las guerras.
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no a las guerras.
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