Telekinesiologist now at JREF!

latent aaaack said:
You mean what you claim you can do is balance a piece of paper on top of a pin and make the piece of paper rotate around the pin?

What holds the pin upright? Does the pin go through the paper or does the paper just rest on top of the pin?
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The paper just rests on the pin. You can put the pin through an eraser or some clay to hold it up. If you wan't to try this, don't put your hands close to the paper. The body heat coming from your hands can sometimes interfere or make you apear to be doing telekinesis. I sugest, having your hands a few feet away from it and ensure that there are no gusts of wind coming from anywhere including you.

If you are a beginner, do not put a cup over it to block wind. This will, for some reason interfere with all telekinesis results by 80% or more. As you get better your energy will be able to penetrate the cup.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
The paper just rests on the pin. You can put the pin through an eraser or some clay to hold it up. If you wan't to try this, don't put your hands close to the paper. The body heat coming from your hands can sometimes interfere or make you apear to be doing telekinesis. I sugest, having your hands a few feet away from it and ensure that there are no gusts of wind coming from anywhere including you.

If you are a beginner, do not put a cup over it to block wind. This will, for some reason interfere with all telekinesis results by 80% or more. As you get better your energy will be able to penetrate the cup.
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How large is the piece of paper usually, by width and height? I find it hard to imagine how you'd balance a small sheet of paper on top of a pin.

Have you succeeded at moving the paper around even with a cup placed over the pin and paper?
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
If you are a beginner, do not put a cup over it to block wind. This will, for some reason interfere with all telekinesis results by 80% or more. As you get better your energy will be able to penetrate the cup.
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What do you think is the nature of the "energy" that is being transmitted?
 
Many years ago, I worked for my cousin the witch in her New Age shop / worship center. All kinds of seekers used to come through (there's one born every minute, y'know), and every one of them claimed some special ability. None of them were able to demonstrate anything of any consequence, and they all seemed to use the same excuses.

Here's a checklist of excuses used by the alledged TK's I've met and worked with:


[ ] Caffeine and other stimulants limit the ability to perform, even if those substances are consumed by witnesses.
[X] Doubt cancels all effects; you must have faith, and so should your witnesses.
[X] Monetary gain or greed inhibits the ability, so anyone, witness or practitioner, seeking to profit by the ability will limit success.
[X] Physical barriers hamper the results, especially if the target item is not allowed to 'breathe.'
[X] Questions cancel all effects (There is no "how." There is no "why." There is only "do.")
[ ] Stress factors interfere with the ability to perform.
[ ] The presence of technology dampens the effects.
[ ] There are "Dark Forces" at work to inhibit independent effort. These forces do not exist on the physical plane, bbut are very real, nonetheless.
[X] What works for one person won't work for another ("We all create our own realities..." et cetera.)
[ ] You have a closed mind.
[ ] You have not enough or too many crystals.
[ ] You have not enough or too many pets or plants.
[ ] You live too close to or too far from open water.
[X] You may be too old / young to learn.
[X] You may not have the potential to begin with.
[ ] You're distracted by external events.
[ ] You're distracted by internal mind chatter.
[X] You're too reliant on technology.
[ ] You're too reliant on your senses.


You've cited, directly or indirectly, all the items I've marked with an X.

Now, having worked in the 'Psychic Counseling' field myself, let me give you some advice...

1) Be ready to prove your assertions. This means that if you claim to move objects with your mind, be ready to make a video of your feat or provide a live feed.

2) Don't waste anybody's time on claims that can not be supported by verifiable facts.

3) Prepare a step-by-step account of "How I Did It" so that others may at least verify that you are following the same procedure each time.

4) Clearly state what conditions will enhance or diminish your success rate.

5) Clearly state what 'target' items (the items you move with your mind) you use, as well as any 'focus' items (an item used to focus your thoughts or 'energies').

6) Produce results, not excuses. People are not interested in excuses, unless they need a few new ones. People are interested only in results.

7) Read the entire JREF challenge, and give serious consideration to being tested. 1M$ could go a long way towards maintaining a comfortable lifestyle, without distractions, so that you might develop your abilities even further.

If you'd like, I will help you design a fair and equitable test for your abilities - one that will give clear results beyond any reasonable doubt.

-Fnord-
 
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Is this your Youtube video? (I've found several similar. So this "ability" is apparently widespread and common)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt00PcAmgO4

Initial thoughts: The top of the glass jar is likely open to air currents, which is why it is always framed out of the shot. Also, slightly nudging the table, or even leaning on it, would cause subtle vibration that sets the paper to spinning.
 
TheTelekinesiologist,

I see a problem with your methods, as described. Allow me to explain.

If I put a piece of paper on a pin in a room, and don't try to do anything special, just sit there and watch it, it just kind of spins back and forth.

Now, suppose I randomly wrote down on a padr a series of "lefts" and "rights". Now, I sit there and just watch the paper, again not trying to do anything with my mind. Suppose the first thing on the pad is "left". Well, sooner or later the paper will spin left. Then, say the next thing on the pad was left. Well, if the paper keeps spinning, I will say what is written on the pad matches what happened. Suppose the paper stopped spinning, but then started spinning to the left. Again, a hit. Suppose it starts turning to the right, but then goes back to the left. Once again, a hit.

And that's a problem. You can sort of talk yourself into almost any behavior being a hit. Not ANYTHING, but just about, if you see what I mean.

Then you have other ways of fooling yourself. Suppose it is spinning to the left, and you notice it is slowing down. So you think to yourself, "okay, maybe it is time to make it spin to the right". Well, it's slowing down because there is air convection that is pushing it the other way, so, it is almost probably going to go right. I'm not saying you are doing this consciously. Think about it - you do best when you are tired and half asleep, when you are almost in a dream state.

Another thing is that you are sitting there and watching the paper, and can get a feel for patterns. For example, if it has been spinning left for 10 seconds, and that is a long time for it to go in a single direction, you will probably decide to try to make it go right. And it will probably go right anyway, all on it's own, because so much time has gone by.

Again, I'm not accusing you of cheating, but pointing out how our normal skills of pattern recognition would lead you to correctly predict the movement of the paper much better than you think you could.

Now, a way to fix this is to write down on a pad of paper what you are going to do ahead of time. IE: 30 seconds spin left, 30 seconds spin right, 30 seconds no movement. You have to define what will contitute a success or failure. - If the paper normally wavers back and forth every 5 seconds then of course you will see it go left at somepoint in that 30 seconds, and you are guaranteed a 'hit' just from random movements from the paper. So, account for that.

Finally, run some sessions where you aren't trying to control it using the test above, and record the result. Just let the normal room air currents move the paper around.Then, do the tests again where you try to influence the paper with your mind. Do it several times each way, and try to have everything the same - same time of day, heat turned to the same level, etc.

Let us know what you find out. I think you will learn a lot about how we are fooled by the pattern recognition pathways in our brain.
 
Tele said:
TIP:
If anyone is trying to learn telekinesis, you might have better luck at night. I mean late (2:00-3:00) because I feel the more tired I get, the more my mind wanders into creativity...
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Are you sure you're not halucinating when you're that tired?

~~ Paul
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
I'm not here to prove myself to anyone. You just dont get it.
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If you're not here to prove your magic ability, then just why are you here? What is it that we don't get?

We've seen this time after time. A new poster comes to this board and makes a claim about some extrordinary ability that defies the known laws of physics then comes up with all kinds of lame excuses why his ability can't be tested. They always claim not to care if they are believed. No evidence offered, no proof offered, no testing offered. Why should we care?

So, I have to ask again; What is the purpose of your posting here? What is it that we don't get?
 
THIS IS TO ALL PEOPLE:

Anyone who thinks I'm a fraud will get their proof sooner or later. Even if I have to learn how to use youtube I'll give you PROOF. I don't own a camcorder or anything of that sort so I'll have to borrow one from a friend. As far as the $1 millon challenge goes, there are things way more important. Your asking me if I wan't a million dollars when University's are sending applications to me? Srry but I don't want to be on tv and be some freak teen! Bad things happen to people that can do stuff. That's right. Instead of alien autopsy it'll be teen autopsy!
 
TK -

Welcome to the forum. Believe me, I would be very happy to learn that your talents are real. It would change everything I thought I knew about the universe.

My question is: The things you've been practicing with (paper, spoons) are items that are very often the subject of magic tricks. James Randi, decades ago, debunked a telekenesis by spreading some foam peanuts around a phone book to prove the gentleman was blowing on the paper. Have you considered trying to move an item that is Not generally moved in magic tricks?

Paper can be moved by wind - and can even stop and change direction due to normal currents in room air. Have you tried something heavier?

We have many members in the Toronto area who would be glad to drive over and spend an hour with you. Please let us know if you would give these people some of your time.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
THIS IS TO ALL PEOPLE:

Anyone who thinks I'm a fraud will get their proof sooner or later. Even if I have to learn how to use youtube I'll give you PROOF. I don't own a camcorder or anything of that sort so I'll have to borrow one from a friend. As far as the $1 millon challenge goes, there are things way more important. Your asking me if I wan't a million dollars when University's are sending applications to me? Srry but I don't want to be on tv and be some freak teen! Bad things happen to people that can do stuff. That's right. Instead of alien autopsy it'll be teen autopsy!
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1. You don't have to be on TV if you don't want to. You have a choice. You could shun publicity. A million dollars is certainly enough to hire a legal team to keep the media off your back.

2. You have said "I have made up my mind that I will only use this ability for mostly educational purposes". By using your "ability" to pass the JREF challenge, you could "educate" hundreds of skeptics and scientists! You could take the million dollars and set up an "educational" foundation to study Psi powers!

3. As I mentioned previously, there are many examples of "psywheel" videos on YouTube. Unfortunately, adding yours would not constitute "proof" of anything. Videos are too easily faked.

4. It sounds like you don't understand how the JREF challenge works. YOU specify exactly what you can do, and under what conditions you can do it. The test is based on YOUR claims and abilities.
 
CLD said:
Is this your Youtube video?

Initial thoughts: The top of the glass jar is likely open to air currents, which is why it is always framed out of the shot. Also, slightly nudging the table, or even leaning on it, would cause subtle vibration that sets the paper to spinning.
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no this is not me. it's too smooth when rotating to be air. shaking the table definitly wouldn't do it.
 
CLD said:
1. You don't have to be on TV if you don't want to. You have a choice. You could shun publicity. A million dollars is certainly enough to hire a legal team to keep the media off your back.

2. You have said "I have made up my mind that I will only use this ability for mostly educational purposes". By using your "ability" to pass the JREF challenge, you could "educate" hundreds of skeptics and scientists! You could take the million dollars and set up an "educational" foundation to study Psi powers!

3. As I mentioned previously, there are many examples of "psywheel" videos on YouTube. Unfortunately, adding yours would not constitute "proof" of anything. Videos are too easily faked.

4. It sounds like you don't understand how the JREF challenge works. YOU specify exactly what you can do, and under what conditions you can do it. The test is based on YOUR claims and abilities.
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It's definitly something to think about. When is the deadline for this competition?
 
Loss Leader said:
TK -

Welcome to the forum. Believe me, I would be very happy to learn that your talents are real. It would change everything I thought I knew about the universe.

My question is: The things you've been practicing with (paper, spoons) are items that are very often the subject of magic tricks. James Randi, decades ago, debunked a telekenesis by spreading some foam peanuts around a phone book to prove the gentleman was blowing on the paper. Have you considered trying to move an item that is Not generally moved in magic tricks?

Paper can be moved by wind - and can even stop and change direction due to normal currents in room air. Have you tried something heavier?

We have many members in the Toronto area who would be glad to drive over and spend an hour with you. Please let us know if you would give these people some of your time.
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yes I have tried something heavier. And it gets alot harder. It takes weeks just getting used to a larger sized paper. Mabye I'm jumping the gun a little to quick? I dunno. The only thing that's always the same is that I can do it at any distance, as long as I can see it.

I don't think it would be possible for me to spend time with members right now. I dunno. Things can change. I might have a different mindset in the future. This ability might evolve into something more if I keep at it.
 
TheTelekinesiologist said:
It's definitly something to think about. When is the deadline for this competition?
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Oh please. Read the friggin rules and apply. Stop wasting our time.

And why do we feel we must reply so many times to some misguided teen that has wandered in off the street?
 
roger said:
TheTelekinesiologist,

I see a problem with your methods, as described. Allow me to explain.

If I put a piece of paper on a pin in a room, and don't try to do anything special, just sit there and watch it, it just kind of spins back and forth.

Now, suppose I randomly wrote down on a padr a series of "lefts" and "rights". Now, I sit there and just watch the paper, again not trying to do anything with my mind. Suppose the first thing on the pad is "left". Well, sooner or later the paper will spin left. Then, say the next thing on the pad was left. Well, if the paper keeps spinning, I will say what is written on the pad matches what happened. Suppose the paper stopped spinning, but then started spinning to the left. Again, a hit. Suppose it starts turning to the right, but then goes back to the left. Once again, a hit.

And that's a problem. You can sort of talk yourself into almost any behavior being a hit. Not ANYTHING, but just about, if you see what I mean.

Then you have other ways of fooling yourself. Suppose it is spinning to the left, and you notice it is slowing down. So you think to yourself, "okay, maybe it is time to make it spin to the right". Well, it's slowing down because there is air convection that is pushing it the other way, so, it is almost probably going to go right. I'm not saying you are doing this consciously. Think about it - you do best when you are tired and half asleep, when you are almost in a dream state.

Another thing is that you are sitting there and watching the paper, and can get a feel for patterns. For example, if it has been spinning left for 10 seconds, and that is a long time for it to go in a single direction, you will probably decide to try to make it go right. And it will probably go right anyway, all on it's own, because so much time has gone by.

Again, I'm not accusing you of cheating, but pointing out how our normal skills of pattern recognition would lead you to correctly predict the movement of the paper much better than you think you could.

Now, a way to fix this is to write down on a pad of paper what you are going to do ahead of time. IE: 30 seconds spin left, 30 seconds spin right, 30 seconds no movement. You have to define what will contitute a success or failure. - If the paper normally wavers back and forth every 5 seconds then of course you will see it go left at somepoint in that 30 seconds, and you are guaranteed a 'hit' just from random movements from the paper. So, account for that.

Finally, run some sessions where you aren't trying to control it using the test above, and record the result. Just let the normal room air currents move the paper around.Then, do the tests again where you try to influence the paper with your mind. Do it several times each way, and try to have everything the same - same time of day, heat turned to the same level, etc.

Let us know what you find out. I think you will learn a lot about how we are fooled by the pattern recognition pathways in our brain.
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You would be 100% right if I was actually doing that. What I usually do is draw an arrow on the paper and point it at objects. I can only hold it there for a maximum of 10sec or less. To solve this problem or reduce it, I use larger sheets of paper. That way, it is obvious that telekinesis is being used. It is obvious because even when I blow it, it still doesn't produce the smooth rotating result of telekinesis...

There is a period during the learning of TK where you can't distinguish between wind and your energy. As TK is developed, you will notice the difference.
 
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