Telekinesiologist now at JREF!
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MRC_Hans
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Ahh, interesting! I had one of these things a few years back (accidentially dropped it in the floor one fine day
). And a thing that intrigued me was that the rotational speed appeared to be more or less proportional to the light intensity. This should not be the case if radiation pressure drove it (it would then keep accelerating, only checked by the friction of the rarified gas inside), but it is in accordance with a thermomechanical effect.Hans
No TK necessary. In vegas you're allowed to touch the dice. If this is possible then Vegas only manages to pay the bills because the mug punters significantly outweigh the wise guys. If it's not possible then how much extra benefit would enough TK to spin a PSI wheel be?
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/LightMill/light-mill.html
Wow. Thanks for the link. I did a search for that but did not find your link, very helpful.
"It was also conclusively proved that convection currents due to slight temperature changes were the cause."
- Cuddles
"One last incorrect explanation which is sometimes given is that the heating sets up convection currents with a horizontal component that turns the vanes. Sorry, wrong again."
- Philip Gibbs
This is one reason why I am skeptical of stuff people write. Anybody can just say stuff, I like to see evidence, or at least a reasonable authority who knows stuff.
Wow. Thanks for the link. I did a search for that but did not find your link, very helpful.
"It was also conclusively proved that convection currents due to slight temperature changes were the cause."
- Cuddles
"One last incorrect explanation which is sometimes given is that the heating sets up convection currents with a horizontal component that turns the vanes. Sorry, wrong again."
- Philip Gibbs
This is one reason why I am skeptical of stuff people write. Anybody can just say stuff, I like to see evidence, or at least a reasonable authority who knows stuff.
Ah but da gubberment can track you by the elevated alphaparticle coming from your brain ;-)
No seriously the government don't need your powers - they can already move much heavier objects from a distance - by shooting them.
If spinning paper on a needle ever turns out to have military application then you might want to start worrying - for all sorts of reasons.
I'll take you up on that bet. What's your stake and odds?
The Atheist
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First we have to agree on what conditions will satisfy the bet.
Someone moving anything with the power of their mind alone.
Count me in. I already have a million that says nobody can do that.
That was my point, I bet a there are some kids somewhere moving psiwheels that would apply for the challenge. And this is something that a protocol actually could be worked out, so they could see at home if they can do it. I'm thinking of linking to the MDC on YT.
What fun.
What fun.
juryjone
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No, you actually stated:
That particular combination of words means that you think telekinesis is true, and that some of the practitioners would enjoy using that talent to attempt to win the million dollars. Not that there are people who believe they could win the million dollars that are moving paper balanced on a pin by some other means.
If you stick to the bet you first expressed, i want a piece of that.
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That's nothing. Check out Ali's thread over the in MDC forum. Over two years, and still haggling over a test procedure with attack dogs.
That's because every time Ali is presented with an option that he knows will show his ability is nonsense, he invents an excuse to back out.
That is because you don't know me. It means that the kids believe they are moving it with their mind, and would like the million dollars. Notice that nobody else jumped on the statement, because after a while, the irony and sarcasm is understood, without having to explain it.
It would be like this statement, Somewhere there is a guy who no lion will attack that would like a million dollars.
The implied truth is understood as irony. But to beat the dead equine a few more times, imagine this comment, Somewhere there is an alchemist turning lead into gold, who would like the million dollars.See? It is a matter of intent, not semantics.
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I understood it perfectly and so did you. You're being deliberately obtuse because you think it's funny and otherwise this thread will die.
juryjone
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I'm sorry, was that pointed at me or robinson? 'Cause you quoted me, but the comment seems to fall in line with what I thought of robinson's comment.
robinson, you said "I bet there are people who are turning psiwheels with their minds that would like a million dollars." If you mean "I bet there are people who believe they are turning psiwheels with their minds that would like a million dollars", why didn't you just say so in the first place? That would be a non-controversial staement, and wouldn't extend the conversation, I guess.