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Looks like a bunch of pure, unadulterated idiocy to me.
It's Childlike Empress quoting Sibel Edmonds. What else could it have been?
Looks like a bunch of pure, unadulterated idiocy to me.
AFP said:Mr. President, what do you expect from the Geneva conference?
President Assad: The most basic element, which we continuously refer to, is that the Geneva Conference should produce clear results with regard to the fight against terrorism in Syria. In particular, it needs to put pressure on countries that are exporting terrorism, - by sending terrorists, money and weapons to terrorist organisations, - especially Saudi Arabia and Turkey, and of course the Western countries that provide political cover for these terrorist organisations. This is the most important decision or result that the Geneva Conference could produce. Any political solution that is reached without fighting terrorism has no value. There can be no political action when there is terrorism everywhere, not only in Syria but in neighbouring countries as well. From the political side, it is possible for Geneva to contribute to a process of dialogue between Syrians. There has to be a Syrian process within Syria and whilst Geneva could support this, it cannot be a substitute for it.
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This while the Syrian Kurds have fired up several Twitter storms and real life demonstrations demanding a seat at the table, apparently without reactions from both the US and Russia. Word is that they are going to declare self-rule this night. I hope that's just a rumour because while I support their struggle, my feeling is that the timing couldn't be worse.
There is clear evidence that Syria has systematically tortured and executed about 11,000 detainees since the start of the uprising, a report by three former war crimes prosecutors says.
Those who are pro-Assad will probably write all of this off as Western propaganda but.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-25822571
Of course the Islamist members of the opposition would probably do worse if they got into power.
Zionist lies I'm sure. Just like the UN finding from a couple years ago that the Assad regime was torturing children.
DER SPIEGEL said:Syriens Regierung hat sich bislang nicht zu den Vorwürfen geäußert. Die Reaktion ist jedoch vorhersehbar: Das Regime wird den Bericht als ausländische Verschwörung zurückweisen, die von Katar gesteuert wird. "Caesar" hatte sich mit seinem Material an eine syrische Oppositionsgruppe gewandt, die von dem Golfstaat unterstützt wird. Anschließend beauftragte Katar eine Londoner Anwaltskanzlei damit, die Glaubwürdigkeit des Informanten und seiner Bilder zu prüfen.
Why?
You take control of situations when they are in flux.
I would also support a Kurdish state and I think they'll do better than either Assad's fascist torture state or the Islamist hellholes.
Plus, if the Islamist militias decide to screw with the Kurds, they will probably get a replay of the ass-kicking they received from Hezbollah.
And a Kurdish state would have a good chance of becoming an actual democracy.
Theoretically, that could a be faction we (the West) could actually back with money and weapons without running the risk of supporting the Muslim version of Pol Pot.
Of course we won't because Erdogan would raise hell.
Al Monitor said:[...] After explosives-detecting dogs gave appropriate signals, the prosecutor allowed steel containers in the trucks to be opened. In six metal crates, concealed among medical supplies, were mortar shells, rockets and various other ammunition. While the trucks were being moved to nearby Seyhan Town Gendarmerie Command for a detailed search, the trucks were blocked by MIT personnel from their Adana regional office. At that point, the governor, Adana Huseyin Avni Cos, the provincial police chief and the MIT regional director arrived at the scene accompanied by 200 policemen. Cos tried for one hour to persuade the prosecutor not to go ahead with the search but couldn’t. Then Cos wrote to the Ceyhan district governor and the Adana Provincial Gendarmerie Command, warning that the MIT was attached directly to the prime minister and searching MIT vehicles without the permission of the prime minister’s office would be an offense. The vehicles then were released under the governor’s instructions and continued on their way toward Syria. [...]
Sibel Edmonds has written a very pointed and read-worthy piece about Erdogan's fall from grace. He seems to be toast but is a fox and always good for a surprise. Maybe he'll apologize to Assad and kick NATO out? Who knows. He's still responsible for countless dead Syrians and will be a minor figure standing in the coming new Nürnberg trials.
Take your anti-semitism elsewhere.
DER SPIEGEL has an interesting prediction in its report about the report:
They predict that "Assad" will reject the report as part of a foreign conspiracy coordinated by Qatar. Why? Because "Caesar"'s material came through "an opposition group supported by Qatar" and Qatar was it who payed a "London law firm" to check the credibility of the informant and his material. Are they running for the million or is this a message to the reader?
Anyway, we as Skeptics know of course that this is crazy talk and the fine humanitarians in Doha are just acting selflessly to help the poor people of Syria. And HRW never ran with faulty "intelligence" to demonize enemies of Empire. Or if they did, we can't remember, can we?
They predict that "Assad" will reject the report as part of a foreign conspiracy coordinated by Qatar. Why? Because "Caesar"'s material came through "an opposition group supported by Qatar" and Qatar was it who payed a "London law firm" to check the credibility of the informant and his material. Are they running for the million or is this a message to the reader?
Anyway, we as Skeptics know of course that this is crazy talk and the fine humanitarians in Doha are just acting selflessly to help the poor people of Syria. And HRW never ran with faulty "intelligence" to demonize enemies of Empire. Or if they did, we can't remember, can we?
Is it your assertion that the Assad regime doesn't torture dissidents and that the evidence is fabricated ?
No, and not unlikely. Is it your assertion that this "report" should be taken at face value given the circumstances?
I'm confused, maybe something got lost in the translation. Your response indicated that it it not your assertion that the Assad regime does not torture dissidents (i.e. you believe that it does) - I thought you held the opposing view, that it does not.
Still confused.....
So is your position that the Assad regime tortures dissidents but the evidence in the report referred to is likely to be fabricated ?
There's a vast difference between what this report alleges (it's Hitler all over, see Eddie's "syrische_holocaust.html" link)
and what the Syrian police state is known for - not least because of their service in the "war on terror" -, which is pretty much on par with the conventions in the region.