Ed Rob Menard's FOTL Claims

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http://www.buildfreedom.com/resplev.htm

It would appear that its true, there are 3 levels???
(a) Level 1 -- Basic. At this level, freedom activists learn about freedom philosophy, try to educate people, participate in Libertarian Party politics, try to change the system, etc.

(b) Level 2 -- Intermediate. At this level, freedom activists essentially learn how to withdraw material support from "coercive political systems" and they extricate themselves as far as practical from these "systems." They focus on aspects like personal empowerment, health, wealth, etc.

(c) Level 3 -- Advanced. At this level, freedom activists withdraw conceptual, intellectual, and semantic support from supposed "coercive political systems." They discover the most basic nature of pretended "coercive political systems." They cure themselves from Slavespeak (and "Slavethink").
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I cant see why you cant just go to level three immediatly, a hard knock on the head would do it.:D
 
Robs now posting random e-mails he has claimed to have recieved in the success stories section.
He obviously has been taking advice from steven1 :D
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95168&page=24
REPORT FROM EMAIL

Hey Rob,

How's it going, bud? I want you to know that, largely because of you and the light you've shared, I have won my mortgage case on default. Your guidance on "you have the right to say 'I don't understand this, this & that'," acquiescence, legalese, general private administrative processes, basic contract elements, the difference between law and statutes, how to claim rights, how to always be asking questions instead of making statements, basic maxims of law and the like have enabled me to follow a private administrative process and construct a pleading in district court so solid that I have won my case on default. The alleged lender, the alleged servicer, the alleged trustees, all other alleged parties of interest and representing attorneys have all tucked tail & run, handing me my property on default. Despite my constant contact with the attorneys after filing my suit, they didn't file an answer, didn't show up for any hearings and didn't file a shred of anything into the case. After they defaulted I contacted the lead attorney to inquire as to whether or not he was aware that his firm was now in default. His comment to me was, "You know, somehow I think you already knew we'd not be able to respond to your pleading." As a result, the debt must be released with no option to re-pursue in the future, the note/title/all related instruments irrevocably signed over to me and marked as "SATISFIED IN FULL," all negative credit marks must be removed and marked as "SATISFIED IN FULL," and all payments I ever made must be returned to me at the same interest rate I was paying. You should also know that the attorney firm I was facing is one of the largest debt collection firms in the nation with over 200 attorneys - and I handed them their asses with help mostly from you! You should also know that from day-one the court was already on the bank's side without hearing anything nor seeing any evidence from the defendant, and so I found my self fighting not only the bank, but the court as well (has to file for a judge's recusal along the way and stand my ground with a subsequent judge, which I could never have done without having been woken up as to how to claim my rights). The things I've learned from you are no longer theory - I've seen them work, and man did they!!!

Keep up the good fight and hurry the hell up with that book! I want copy #1!!! :-)
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Rob: Recently I got pulled over and denied the police consent to search me. They broke my window and pulled me out of my car at gun point, only to find crumbs enough to make a joint with. They brought me down to the station, and I'm 100% sure their supervisor ripped them a new *******. They couldn't get me out of jail fast enough. I owe it all to you, and your words of wisdom. Exercise your right to say nothing. do you understand? No. Do you want a lawyer? No response.

Andrew-Michael Beauchamp
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his fans appear to be lapping them up, i wonder why they didnt believe steven1s claims?
 
jargon buster said:
Robs now posting random e-mails he has claimed to have recieved in the success stories section.
He obviously has been taking advice from steven1 :D
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95168&page=24




his fans appear to be lapping them up, i wonder why they didnt believe steven1s claims?
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It must be jealousy, I see no difference in credibility.
The only other explanation is that steven1 wrote of his exploits in an coherent manner, that does mark him as a bit of an outsider. :D
 
There seems to be a few new posters, all with just a handful of posts, i wonder which one i might be
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mmmm.... yes i wonder which one I might be?;)
I cant make my mind up which way to take it, if i go all freeman they may think steven1 has decided to come back and if I go skepic they may think Im back on as Asky.
I bet the mods are in a bit of a fix, they will be banning everyone whatever their calling.

:D
 
jargon buster said:
his fans appear to be lapping them up, i wonder why they didnt believe steven1s claims?
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Rob is a vain person in love with himself, but I would not be surprised if the emails are real - the facts of the cases, of course, are never like the freeman claim though. Usually what I've found is all these people celebrating victory think that because they engaged in paperwork terrorism with a law firm and didn't get a response in whatever deadline they set that they now "win" - that was probably the case with the mortgage guy. Of course, when he goes to court he'll see that its not the case at all and his little self-imposed deadline means nothing and he'll lose the house as usual.

But he won't email Rob about that one.
 
jargon buster said:
mmmm.... yes i wonder which one I might be?;)
I cant make my mind up which way to take it, if i go all freeman they may think steven1 has decided to come back and if I go skepic they may think Im back on as Asky.
I bet the mods are in a bit of a fix, they will be banning everyone whatever their calling.

:D
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It's the mods that i dislike the most. The posters are clearly stupid but the mods and icke are out to rip you off, pure and simple.
 
The mods dont seem to have an issue with Rob plugging his new book either.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95168&page=26
Originally Posted by rob menard
REPORT FROM EMAIL

Hey Rob,

How's it going, bud? I want you to know that, largely because of you and the light you've shared, I have won my mortgage case on default. Your guidance on "you have the right to say 'I don't understand this, this & that'," acquiescence, legalese, general private administrative processes, basic contract elements, the difference between law and statutes, how to claim rights, how to always be asking questions instead of making statements, basic maxims of law and the like have enabled me to follow a private administrative process and construct a pleading in district court so solid that I have won my case on default. The alleged lender, the alleged servicer, the alleged trustees, all other alleged parties of interest and representing attorneys have all tucked tail & run, handing me my property on default. Despite my constant contact with the attorneys after filing my suit, they didn't file an answer, didn't show up for any hearings and didn't file a shred of anything into the case. After they defaulted I contacted the lead attorney to inquire as to whether or not he was aware that his firm was now in default. His comment to me was, "You know, somehow I think you already knew we'd not be able to respond to your pleading." As a result, the debt must be released with no option to re-pursue in the future, the note/title/all related instruments irrevocably signed over to me and marked as "SATISFIED IN FULL," all negative credit marks must be removed and marked as "SATISFIED IN FULL," and all payments I ever made must be returned to me at the same interest rate I was paying. You should also know that the attorney firm I was facing is one of the largest debt collection firms in the nation with over 200 attorneys - and I handed them their asses with help mostly from you! You should also know that from day-one the court was already on the bank's side without hearing anything nor seeing any evidence from the defendant, and so I found my self fighting not only the bank, but the court as well (has to file for a judge's recusal along the way and stand my ground with a subsequent judge, which I could never have done without having been woken up as to how to claim my rights). The things I've learned from you are no longer theory - I've seen them work, and man did they!!!

Keep up the good fight and hurry the hell up with that book! I want copy #1!!! :-)

Peace
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BobHaulk said:
It's the mods that i dislike the most. The posters are clearly stupid but the mods and icke are out to rip you off, pure and simple.
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How does one become a 'mod' on the Icke forum? (not that I'm interested myself of course) Do you need to show a confirmed history of moonbattery thoughout your 'career' online? Do you need to spend x number of £'s on Icke books & events?
 
gtm said:
How does one become a 'mod' on the Icke forum? (not that I'm interested myself of course) Do you need to show a confirmed history of moonbattery thoughout your 'career' online? Do you need to spend x number of £'s on Icke books & events?
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I think it helps if you tell dave how great he is, he likes that or maybe buy him a drink, he likes a drink, mainly though you must be spectacularly dim.
 
The best way to deal with Menard and Ickes is to simply bury his posts in more freeman success stories.
The more nonsense there is on there the sooner people coming to the site will see how deluded he is.
Disagreeing just gives him a platform for his stupidity.
Just agree with him and post ever whackier claims (i know, its whacky enough now)
 
I do wonder if Menard doesn't hope that some sort of Hundredth Monkey effect will kick in if enough people start practicing his nonsense - that a critical mass will be reached in which The System will be overwhelmed by mass disobedience. He surely knows his techniques don't work, but perhaps he consciously believes that if he shovels enough idiots into the maw of the beast it'll choke on them. Let's face it, many revolutionaries do just that - talk a lot from a safe distance while exhorting others to make the ultimate sacrifice so the great leader can reap the benefits.
 
What they fail to see is that the success of the FMOTL movement would actually be its undoing, if it became mainstream then everyone would cease to work and just A4V all their bills.
WHERE WOULD ALL THE MONEY COME FROM?
FMOTL needs society in place to sponge off as most of its advocates are unemployed layabout potheads in reciept of state benefits.
To be a success it needs to maintain the status quo, which is quite ironic as the status quo doesnt recognise the argument in the first place.
 
Menard is now trying to get another poster on David Ickes banned by suggesting they are me.:D
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95168&page=26
HI jillza!
Welcome to the forum. I see you have met our resident troll. Read what was forwarded to me, from another forum where 'catnap' is know as Jargon Buster...

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The best way to deal with Menard and Ickes is to simply bury his posts in more freeman success stories.
The more nonsense there is on there the sooner people coming to the site will see how deluded he is.
Disagreeing just gives him a platform for his stupidity.
Just agree with him and post ever whackier claims (i know, its whacky enough now)
He is my internet stalker, and is seriously obsessed with me and apparently anyone willing to think for themselves. He is likely insane, seeing as how much energy he gives to a topic he claims is bogus and bull.

According to him, he wants to make sure people such as yourself do not form your own opinions, but follow his.

I am sure you can figure out how sad of a case he truly is. I am also sure you can sense that his response and fear is in fact evidence that FMOTL does resonate with many, and he fears that resonance, as it leads people away from his arena of control.

Once again welcome, and I hope you enjoy this forum, though you will have to initialize your troll shields.
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he also welcomes to the forum jillza whos third post was this
Hey Catflap,
do you have ANY idea how whiney you come across? Demanding and acting like Rob and any other person, has a duty to reply, graciously, to your quite rude comments and then you get your knickers in a twist when people act like youre not worth going to the trouble. No one is obligated to please you, and the more you bitch about it the less anyone will take what you are typing seriously.
I dont like violence - but id kick your tits in I reckon if I met ya in person...
oh, wait..
I see someone already has!
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Now bearing in mind catflap has already admitted that she is suffering from cancer, this post could hardly fall within the boundaries of cause no loss or harm.
I wouldn't be surprised if this person was there at the behest of Menard.
Lets see if melonclone the Mod does anything about that post, which in my opinion should warrant a ban.
 
Rob wrote
HI jillza!
Welcome to the forum. I see you have met our resident troll. Read what was forwarded to me, from another forum where 'catnap' is know as Jargon Buster...
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Hes still trying to make people believe that he doesn't actually visit here and his minions keep him updated as to whats posted about him.

What a clown
 
jargon buster said:
he also welcomes to the forum jillza whos third post was this
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Reading the very poor quality of jillza's posts I would imagine Menard has recognised another customer ready to be fleeced and has therefore pounced.
 
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gtm said:
Hiya JB

Do you know anything about a 'Brian T Collins' who Rob is currently crossing horns with over on Icke?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=137758
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He's just as messed up as Menard:

I must point out that there is no Criminal Code of Canada. The Criminal Code is in fact a United Nations Concordance that falls under the international ecclesiastical jurisdiction of United Nations enforcement. Common law was completely abolished under the United Nations "Curia" or trusteeship, so agruing "Common Law Rights" in a de facto juristiction are useless.
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FMOTL is wrong, but that's not why.
 
D'rok said:
He's just as messed up as Menard:


FMOTL is wrong, but that's not why.
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Self evidently.

I'm sure you noticed this :-

A Woman terminal with cancer attributes my music as one of the main factors to her miraculous recovery which baffled doctors
I introduced her to using 432hz music/frequency and alkaline water the combination along with her determination and Belief cured her after 7 months.

and this :-

The issue about Criminal code of Canada is minor compared to the bigger picture.
The CCC is a concordance, a UN enforcement on the waters
it's all under roman law dead corpus trust Rob administered by High courts of Rota.

The cancer treatment thing is really too insane to comment on constructively. I haven't got a clue why he's attempting to relate the Canadian Criminal Code with the Roman Rota (which is an appellant Court dealing with Cannon law cases in the Vatican - ie defrocked priests). We need Robert Langdon to decode this conundrum for us.
 
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