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Richard Gage at the AIA Convention

1337m4n said:
There is no point. It is like trying to convince a colorblind man who insists the sky is gray that it is in fact blue.

RedIbis will wallow in his delusions forever.
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Ibis don't wallow, they wade.
 
johnny karate said:
Your tedious semantic games aside, no one who witnessed the collapse of WTC7 believes it was a controlled demolition.
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They understand reality, they cheated. No one who has the 911Truth blinders on understands reality, fire science, math, physics, logic, and they also have no knowledge on 911 issues.

Gage scam is working as he spreads the word with money from those who he has fooled. Gage will travel on the gullible people dime.
 
bill smith said:
At the end of the attached video an employee from WTC7 is interviewed, She says in plain English near the end of the video that the fire department TOLD her they were going to bring building 7 down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58h0LjdMry0
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Ah, so you've found airtight evidence that the FDNY is complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Evidence which, if true, will put the perps behind bars and bring the whole conspiracy down like a house of cards. Well done. I suspect you already have the ball rolling on contacting the appropriate people so that justice will be done.....right? You are doing something about this?
 
KreeL said:
Every physicist, architect, fireman, engineer, pilot, and scientist knows 9/11 did not happen the way the government explained. They just don't have the guts to admit it.
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False. The 343 firemen who died that day had the guts.

bill smith said:
At the end of the attached video an employee from WTC7 is interviewed, She says in plain English near the end of the video that the fire department TOLD her they were going to bring building 7 down.
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False. The NYFD did not blow up WTC7.

From Infowars:"Former Air Force Special Operations for Search and Rescue expert, Kevin McPadden traveled to ground zero completely of his own accord and spent the next four days searching through the rubble and nearby buildings for survivors.

"While we were on the right side, there was firefighters getting ready, they were bussing them back and forth, and a couple of vets that were there - they got the vibe that something was coming down," said McPadden.
"We started asking questions, everybody started asking questions, and the next thing you know there was a Red Cross representative pacing back and forth in front of the crowd holding his hand over the radio - I couldn't hear what it was saying but it was like pulsed - whatever the speech was on there it was pulsed - and that means to me most likely it was a countdown."
"But he took his hand off at the last three seconds and he gave this heartfelt look - like just run for your life - because he didn't want to bring it on his conscience - he didn't want to go to his grave with that - and then we had a couple of seconds to put our heads together," said McPadden. "

From Prisonplanet:
Despite numerous attempts to glean information from Red Cross officials, McPadden and other first responders were told nothing while one official, shortly after talking to firemen, held his hand over his radio and told them to "just sit tight" and "calm down" before admitting "they're thinking about bringing the building down."

"He took his hand off for the last three seconds of it - and you hear three, two, one," said McPadden, adding that the official then gave a heartfelt look and told the first responders, "just run for your life."

"And you heard - boom, boom, boom," said McPadden, describing the sound of bombs tearing down the building.

The Red Cross blew up WTC7.

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"Again, there are many ways of going wrong ... but only one way of going right; so that the one is easy and the other hard — easy to miss the mark and hard to hit it. "
- Aristotle
 
From AE911t's website just now:

"646 architectural and engineering professionals"

Lower down on the same page:

"Berkeley, CA, April 23, 2009 — More than 640 Architects & Engineers..."

So in the last 15 days they've added at most 5 new "architectural and engineering professionals" even assuming that all of the 0 - 5 new names were from the convention this in no way squares with Gage's claim (on the same page) that "we spoke to hundreds of architects and must have added about 50 to our petitioners over the course of 3 days." The convention took place 5 1/2 - 8 days ago which is more than enough time to check credentials and add names to their list. Live verification would be easier than over the Net signers could be asked to show photo ID and perhaps some documentation they are actually A's or E's* and this could quickly be verified online and the Moscone Center has WiFi access.

http://www.ae911truth.org/

*Do the state licensing agencies and/or professional associations issue ID cards?
 
bill smith said:
Richard Gage lecture in Montreal 8th May 2009. Somebody said that the Truth Movement is dying but to be quite honest I think it is growing quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEkgsT5VRA8&eurl=http://www.911blogger.com/&feature=player_embedded
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Do you hae any evidence to support such a belief? Polls show that 5 - 6% of the US population 10% tops are inside jobbers and the nmbers went DOWN 2006 - 2007 traffic at 911Blogger SLC and other sites has been declining.
 
apathoid said:
Ah, so you've found airtight evidence that the FDNY is complicit in the 9/11 attacks. Evidence which, if true, will put the perps behind bars and bring the whole conspiracy down like a house of cards. Well done. I suspect you already have the ball rolling on contacting the appropriate people so that justice will be done.....right? You are doing something about this?
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The "Obama Isn't a Genuine American" loons are running rings around the Truthers. They are pestering individual judges in the Federal Supreme Court and State Attorney Generals that they think are sympathetic with petitions and legalistic documents that I assume are meaningless and intended to impress the legally illiterate.

They are running "Citizens Grand Juries" in red states that consistently indict Obama for a laundry list of crimes revolving around an alleged fake birth certificate.

Much of this is invented by Ms. Orly Taitz, a lawyer, and her blog gives you a flavor of what they are doing.


"The patriotic Resistance" is another group that needs watching.

 
Lenbrazil said:
*Do the state licensing agencies and/or professional associations issue ID cards?
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From my state I pay dues yearly . The state keeps web accessible public records of my name, lic # and expiration date that can be accessed in seconds, no ID card. AIA sends me a red plastic sized credit card with its and my name on it. My state used to issue 5.5 x 8.5" framable licenses, but no more, it's all electronically ephemeral now. Here today, one click gone tomorrow.

Google for instance "California architects license verification " and in seconds anyone's license can be verified.

I see no reason for lengthy investigation. You're either licensed or not. Anyone can verify Gage's licensed A/E list with out much ado as long as you have a cold six pack of Modelo Especial, salsa, chips, and know the state they're from.
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and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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I remember 6 years ago, the faithbased were all clamoring "just find one, JUST ONE structural engineer that doubts the official story!".

Wow, times have changed.:D
 
I remember years ago paranoid Truthers were making a bunch of ridiculous claims that cast pretty much everybody on the planet except for them in the role of either dupe or coward.

Wow, times haven't changed. :rolleyes:
 
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KreeL said:
I remember 6 years ago, the faithbased were all clamoring "just find one, JUST ONE structural engineer that doubts the official story!".

Wow, times have changed.:D
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How many does Gage have?
 
KreeL said:
I remember 6 years ago, the faithbased were all clamoring "just find one, JUST ONE structural engineer that doubts the official story!".

Wow, times have changed.:D
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We still don't have one. Gage isn't an engineer. His resume has nothing engineering-like on it and none of the other members will speak in public and say things that make sense.
 
KreeL said:
I remember 6 years ago, the faithbased were all clamoring "just find one, JUST ONE structural engineer that doubts the official story!".

Wow, times have changed.:D
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Oh, the fallacy of appeal to authority, nicely played!

Hey Kreely, maybe most structural engineers are like fireman, and air traffic controllers, and etc etc... major cowards. Yeah, you said that earlier. Everyone who disagrees with, oh say, holograms and NO Planer fake real time video is a coward, right Kreel?

It is an inside jobby job!
 
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