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Richard Gage at the AIA Convention

boloboffin said:
50 new petition signers.

Three days at the National AIA Convention.

Thousands of dollars.

50 new names.
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Notice he said "about 50", which of course means less then that or he would have said "over 50" lets assume he got 48. He claims 24,000 architects attended so assuming he is not BSing 0.2% of attendees signed. How many can we assume will change their minds when they get exposed to less biased info? I also imagine some signatories will turn out to have used psyedonyms or not really be architects. He doesn't seem to have added anyone to the lists on the site.

I wonder who the structural engineer architect guy is. His boss is an octogenarian architect who got a SE licence in the 50's
 
Lenbrazil said:
Notice he said "about 50", which of course means less then that or he would have said "over 50" lets assume he got 48. He claims 24,000 architects attended so assuming he is not BSing 0.2% of attendees signed. How many can we assume will change their minds when they get exposed to less biased info? I also imagine some signatories will turn out to have used psyedonyms or not really be architects. He doesn't seem to have added anyone to the lists on the site.
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Also keep in mind that he doesn't say his petition actually got 50 new signatures, he just said it "must have" gotten 50 new signatures.

I assume he is basing this statement on people who casually said "sure I'll check out your petition" out of politeness/getting Gage to stop hounding them.
 
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1337m4n said:
Also keep in mind that he doesn't say his petition actually got 50 new signatures, he just said it "must have" gotten 50 new signatures.

I assume he is basing this statement on people who casually said "sure I'll check out your petition" out of politeness/getting Gage to stop hounding them.
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Or "must have" could mean he was "too busy" to count.
 
zorro99 said:
I can't see why they think video-taping this stuff and putting it on the internet is somehow helpful to the cause.
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It may depend on whether the cause is convincing people that 9-11 was an inside job or compelling young idiots who watch too much YouTube to donate money to Richard Gage.

If you're going for the latter, the above is a far more effective approach.
 
The names on that petition are highly suspect. Unless the signer is from the UK, why would they list their college degrees after their name on the petition? I get the appeal to authority fallacy, but in the US and quite a few other places that sort of thing gets laughed at since everyone has a college degree. And then the people claiming a PhD are using both "Dr." before their name and "Ph.D." after, when its well known you use one or the other. Its almost as if Gage & Co. think throwing up enough letters is going to impress people or something.

Of course if they are real people, this is even more sad. All that education and they don't understand basic social conventions about throwing degrees around? If you don't even get that, why would anyone trust you on 9/11?

LightinDarkness, BA Political Science, BA Philosophy, BA World Religion Studies, Master of Public Administration, Public Administration Ph.D. Candidate, and a partridge in a pear tree.
 
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Looks like Gage is coming to my town at the end of the month. I wonder if it would be worth attending. Maybe even bringing my father who was a well known architect. I dunno what I would ask though...
 
50...my left hind quarter! He hasn't got fity architects in his 600 BS numbers, on the AE 911!
Let's see some evidence!
 
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50 sounds about right. That's nearly exactly the amount that don't currently have government contracts and grants. Who would have guessed?
 
KreeL said:
50 sounds about right. That's nearly exactly the amount that don't currently have government contracts and grants. Who would have guessed?
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Kreel,

Can I respectfully ask how old you are?

Usually this level of delusion of moral superiority is an afflictions of adolescence.

old-as-dirt-tom
 
KreeL said:
50 sounds about right. That's nearly exactly the amount that don't currently have government contracts and grants. Who would have guessed?
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Congratulations, you managed to demonstrate more about yourself than you intended. You see, people who readily see faults in others are those that typically suffer from such faults.

So you conclude (based on a completely false and apparently totally made up "fact") that almost every architect in the Nation is morally bankrupt, a conclusion we can only assume is due in large part to the fact that you are morally bankrupt.
 
KreeL said:
50 sounds about right. That's nearly exactly the amount that don't currently have government contracts and grants. Who would have guessed?
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In a world with such an overwhelming majority of amoral cowards suckling at The Government's teat, it makes you wonder for whose benefit such an elaborate conspiracy and cover-up was meant.
 
In a world with such an overwhelming majority of amoral cowards suckling at The Government's teat, it makes you wonder why 9/11 would even be necessary to persuade us all to go to war.
 
tfk said:
Usually this level of delusion of moral superiority is an afflictions of adolescence.

old-as-dirt-tom
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You'd be surprised (but then again you might not) I dealt with people in their 60s and even 80s, most notably Jim Fetzer and Jack White who display the same "level of delusion of moral superiority" and same "level of delusion" etc etc as KreeL
 
Lenbrazil said:
You'd be surprised (but then again you might not) I dealt with people in their 60s and even 80s, most notably Jim Fetzer and Jack White who display the same "level of delusion of moral superiority" and same "level of delusion" etc etc as KreeL
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Insanity, senility, and paranoia can also cause such reactions in the elderly.

TAM:)
 
Lenbrazil said:
You'd be surprised (but then again you might not) I dealt with people in their 60s and even 80s, most notably Jim Fetzer and Jack White who display the same "level of delusion of moral superiority" and same "level of delusion" etc etc as KreeL
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len,

You're absolutely right, of course.

There are a certain pecent of people who suffer from "arrested development", who never seem to get out of their teens. Growing up in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, I've met lots.

Around these parts, they are usually the "wired-jaw Hah-vahd types" and "aging hippies" . (Hey, as one of the originals, I get to say that.)

In the spirit of the old (apocryphal) Churchill comment:

"Anyone under the age of 25 who is not a liberal has no heart.
Anyone over the age of 30 who is not a conservative has no brain."

:D

But, in reality, there are people from all points of the political spectrum who lead purely unexamined existences. It's too bad. There are a lot of really interesting ideas out there.


tk
 
I ignore Gage... he's demonstrated enough about his qualifications already for me to make a reasonable evaluation of him...
 
You guys know that they were aiming to break the 1,000 mark at the convention. They didn't even make it past 700, starting at "640."
 
tfk said:
len,

You're absolutely right, of course.

There are a certain pecent of people who suffer from "arrested development", who never seem to get out of their teens. Growing up in the People's Republic of Massachusetts, I've met lots.

Around these parts, they are usually the "wired-jaw Hah-vahd types" and "aging hippies" . (Hey, as one of the originals, I get to say that.)

In the spirit of the old (apocryphal) Churchill comment:

"Anyone under the age of 25 who is not a liberal has no heart.
Anyone over the age of 30 who is not a conservative has no brain."

:D

But, in reality, there are people from all points of the political spectrum who lead purely unexamined existences. It's too bad. There are a lot of really interesting ideas out there.


tk
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heh, I have a brain thank you very much.

TAM (38 year old liberal)
 
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